Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Communism? Nope it's FREEDOM! https://www.apnews.com/42b62f24be9b4e0d9f764f1a3fa9647a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Those people aren’t starving. Most are on the fat side. They have nothing but they’re well fed. and the collapse of Venezuela is a lot more to blame than the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 So why sanctions? Cuba doesn't have oil... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Anler said: So why sanctions? Cuba doesn't have oil... You think the citizens there are all living the life of Riley. Nawww...I’m sure it’s not oppressive and brutal at all. Those aren’t normal traits for communism. This IS weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 ah another shinning example of how great communism is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Anler said: So why sanctions? Cuba doesn't have oil... There’s blame on both sides, but the sanctions at this point are stupid. They don’t really have a devastating affect though, the Cubans really don’t have a lot to sell. I got to watch some of their propaganda videos while they’re. Pretty interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: Oh enlighten us wise one with your zero knowledge of Cuba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Well with Pork being a substantial portion of their diet it doesn't help that China might lose 1/3 of their hogs due to African swine flu. As consumers turn to other meat all prices will rise. https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/business/african-swine-fever-hebei-pork-scn-intl/index.html African swine fever (ASF) is decimating China's pork industry, by far the biggest in the world. Dutch bank Rabobank, which lends to the global agricultural sector, estimates the country's pig population could shrink by a third in 2019 -- up to 200 million animals -- through a combination of the disease and culling. To put it in context, that's almost as many pigs as in the US and Europe combined. And it's not just producers who are hurting. The epidemic could also have a broader economic impact: China is the world's largest consumer of pork, a staple for the vast majority of its 1.4 billion people. According to government forecasts, the price of pork could rise to record levels in the second half of 2019, as demand overwhelms supply. Analysts say there isn't enough pork in the world to cover China's expected shortfall and consumers are likely to turn to other meats as a substitute. Edited May 15, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Well with Pork being a substantial portion of their diet it doesn't help that China might lose 1/3 of their hogs due to African swine flu. Let’s hope it’s more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You think the citizens there are all living the life of Riley. Nawww...I’m sure it’s not oppressive and brutal at all. Those aren’t normal traits for communism. This IS weird! It’s a very unique place. The people are nice. It’s very safe for tourists. They generally don’t even look at you or bother you at all. Very nice there’s no Americans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, DUMPY said: Oh enlighten us wise one with your zero knowledge of Cuba Lift all sanctions of Cuba. What is the motive for causing suffering of the people there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Anler said: So why sanctions? Cuba doesn't have oil... Sadly the intentions no longer justify the means. People need to want and earn their freedom we should not force it upon them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: Lift all sanctions of Cuba. What is the motive for causing suffering of the people there? I don’t disagree but it’s not going to make a huge difference, but some. The sanctions at this point are stupid a lot of them there don’t want the Americans there anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Sadly the intentions no longer justify the means. People need to want and earn their freedom we should not force it upon them. 1 minute ago, DUMPY said: I don’t disagree but it’s not going to make a huge difference, but some. The sanctions at this point are stupid a lot of them there don’t want the Americans there anyway If you want more cuban refugees just leave things how they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Anler said: If you want more cuban refugees just leave things how they are. One problem remains. Those in power benefit more from our trade than the people. Still no longer justifiable in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted May 15, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Anler said: Lift all sanctions of Cuba. What is the motive for causing suffering of the people there? Those little cocksuckers had the audacity to turn commie and accept help from Russia. But hey, now that Trump accepts help from Russia we should lift the sanctions, us and Cuba are brothers now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: One problem remains. Those in power benefit more from our trade than the people. Still no longer justifiable in my book. Who knows. The embargo was lifted for a short time and tourism started picking up, we actually were planning to go there. Cuba was a pretty cool place before all fo the fuckery started. Let them have first world luxuries and lets see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Sadly the intentions no longer justify the means. People need to want and earn their freedom we should not force it upon them. Cuba\cubans aren’t “indigenous” to the area, but came about from Spanish frigging the slaves. The population grew to the point they made their own group identity as “Cubans” at that point they started to get a thirst for independence they fought for years then thought they had it when the US intervened. But then their “elected” dictator Batista was just a puppet for the US and in bed with the mafia. So the thirst for true independence remained as the US had it written into their law that they could contravene into Cuba at any time after running the Spanish out, which was also a big setup by the US thats where Fidel came in the US is anything but innocent. There’s blame on both sides but the US was the worse aggressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Cuba should just do what they want. Their leaders know what’s best for the citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted May 15, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: Who knows. The embargo was lifted for a short time and tourism started picking up, we actually were planning to go there. Cuba was a pretty cool place before all fo the fuckery started. Let them have first world luxuries and lets see what happens. I hope the Cubans are smart enough to keep out all the resorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: Who knows. The embargo was lifted for a short time and tourism started picking up, we actually were planning to go there. Cuba was a pretty cool place before all fo the fuckery started. Let them have first world luxuries and lets see what happens. Tourism there is good. No Americans is a big bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Who knows. The embargo was lifted for a short time and tourism started picking up, we actually were planning to go there. Cuba was a pretty cool place before all fo the fuckery started. Let them have first world luxuries and lets see what happens. Why are we stopping them from having “first world luxuries”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Those little cocksuckers had the audacity to turn commie and accept help from Russia. But hey, now that Trump accepts help from Russia we should lift the sanctions, us and Cuba are brothers now!! Not sure what choice they had after the embargo’s. Fidel wasn’t really much of a communist but his brother and Che were big time Fidel’s brother has actually relaxed the laws some now on private business. Like they can run their own restaurants and what not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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