Still pissed off a green energy subsidies?

[Dave]

4 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

It’s still supported by other taxpayers. 

When the oil industry fucks up they leave the taxpayer and victims with the bill. 

You think solyndra screwing investors is worse than the Exxon Valdez Or horizon x?

Go save some whales....

[BOHICA]

The biggest disfunction with subsidies to green energy is they pretty much all go to Fortune 500 companies and not to the consumer...  green energy subsidies are one of those rich get richer and the wealth is consolidating at the top schemes

British petroleum and a few other hydrocarbon producers are huge players in getting federal green energy subsidies.

 

Not like it will ever happen but it would be nice for all green energy subsidy go to individual tax payer that installs green energy.

Edited February 3, 2019 by BOHICA

[irv]

https://torontosun.com/2014/11/08/wynnes-billion-dollar-hydro-boondoggle/wcm/f7579141-7af2-40d7-b12d-e2ee1a129d8b http://anchoralliance.ca/index.php/2016/10/26/how-ontarios-pursuit-of-renewable-energy-broke-the-provinces-electricity-system/

[steve from amherst]

43 minutes ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said:

Fucking hell! Revvy just got curb side service!

 

good flik

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

1 minute ago, steve from amherst said:

good flik

You know it. Might have to put it in my que for this afternoon. 

[racer254]

Wind turbines have a lifespan of about 20 years, and decommissioning outdated models isn’t a new practice, but it’s not one that’s always used.

“Several wind farms have been abandoned, but they’re still standing there,” Nicholson said.

The Mendota Hills wind farm was built in 2003, and Leeward plans to replace its current fleet with more efficient turbines.

https://www.saukvalley.com/2016/08/16/first-of-its-kind-project-would-replace-lee-county-wind-turbines/avauqzk/

[irv]

As Heatwave Tests The Limits Of Renewables, Anti-Nuclear Governments Return To Nuclear 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/07/26/as-heatwave-tests-the-limits-of-renewables-anti-nuclear-governments-return-to-nuclear/#72279713132b 

Edited February 3, 2019 by irv

[Ez ryder]

1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

It’s still supported by other taxpayers. 

When the oil industry fucks up they leave the taxpayer and victims with the bill. 

You think solyndra screwing investors is worse than the Exxon Valdez Or horizon x?

one the govenment give you a check of other people's money 

the other is a tax credit . you get a % off the money you earned 

 

[Ez ryder]

1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

It’s still supported by other taxpayers. 

When the oil industry fucks up they leave the taxpayer and victims with the bill. 

You think solyndra screwing investors is worse than the Exxon Valdez Or horizon x?

they still get the bills .

shit happens and with out gas and oil there would be no way for solindra executives to fly back and fourth to dc to work on there swindel .

and by investor you ment the us tax payer 

[snopro31]

Oil is renewable. 

 

Humans and animals are born. Then they die. Then they end up eventually as oil. 

Renewable. 

[Mainecat]

Republicans never think past next Tuesday.

[revkevsdi]

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

Republicans never think past next Tuesday.

16 year old Greta Thunberg is smarter than most Republicans and their Supporters  

 

Recently I’ve seen many rumors circulating about me and enormous amounts of hate. This is no surprise to me. I know that since most people are not aware of the full meaning of the climate crisis (which is understandable since it has never been treated as a crisis) a school strike for the climate would seem very strange to people in general.
So let me make some things clear about my school strike.
 
In may 2018 I was one of the winners in a writing competition about the environment held by Svenska Dagbladet, a Swedish newspaper. I got my article published and some people contacted me, among others was Bo Thorén from Fossil Free Dalsland. He had some kind of group with people, especially youth, who wanted to do something about the climate crisis.
I had a few phone meetings with other activists. The purpose was to come up with ideas of new projects that would bring attention to the climate crisis. Bo had a few ideas of things we could do. Everything from marches to a loose idea of some kind of a school strike (that school children would do something on the schoolyards or in the classrooms). That idea was inspired by the Parkland Students, who had refused to go to school after the school shootings.
I liked the idea of a school strike. So I developed that idea and tried to get the other young people to join me, but no one was really interested. They thought that a Swedish version of the Zero Hour march was going to have a bigger impact. So I went on planning the school strike all by myself and after that I didn’t participate in any more meetings.
 
When I told my parents about my plans they weren’t very fond of it. They did not support the idea of school striking and they said that if I were to do this I would have to do it completely by myself and with no support from them.
On the 20 of august I sat down outside the Swedish Parliament. I handed out fliers with a long list of facts about the climate crisis and explanations on why I was striking. The first thing I did was to post on Twitter and Instagram what I was doing and it soon went viral. Then journalists and newspapers started to come. A Swedish entrepreneur and business man active in the climate movement, Ingmar Rentzhog, was among the first to arrive. He spoke with me and took pictures that he posted on Facebook. That was the first time I had ever met or spoken with him. I had not communicated or encountered with him ever before.
 
Many people love to spread rumors saying that I have people ”behind me” or that I’m being ”paid” or ”used” to do what I’m doing. But there is no one ”behind” me except for  myself. My parents were as far from climate activists as possible before I made them aware of the situation.
I am not part of any organization. I sometimes support and cooperate with several NGOs that work with the climate and environment. But I am absolutely independent and I only represent myself. And I do what I do completely for free, I have not received any money or any promise of future payments in any form at all. And nor has anyone linked to me or my family done so.
And of course it will stay this way. I have not met one single climate activist who is  fighting for the climate for money. That idea is completely absurd.
Furthermore I only travel with permission from my school and my parents pay for tickets and accommodations.
 
My family has written a book together about our family and how me and my sister Beata have influenced my parents way of thinking and seeing the world, especially when it comes to the climate. And about our diagnoses.
That book was due to be released in May. But since there was a major disagreement with the book company, we ended up changing to a new publisher and so the book was released in august instead.
Before the book was released my parents made it clear that their possible profits from the book ”Scener ur hjärtat” will be going to 8 different charities working with environment, children with diagnoses and animal rights.
 
And yes, I write my own speeches. But since I know that what I say is going to reach many, many people I often ask for input. I also have a few scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. I want everything to be absolutely correct so that I don’t spread incorrect facts, or things that can be misunderstood.
 
Some people mock me for my diagnosis. But Asperger is not a disease, it’s a gift. People also say that since I have Asperger I couldn’t possibly have put myself in this position. But that’s exactly why I did this. Because if I would have been ”normal” and social I would have organized myself in an organisation, or started an organisation by myself. But since I am not that good at socializing I did this instead. I was so frustrated that nothing was being done about the climate crisis and I felt like I had to do something, anything. And sometimes NOT doing things - like just sitting down outside the parliament - speaks much louder than doing things. Just like a whisper sometimes is louder than shouting.
 
Also there is one complaint that I ”sound and write like an adult”. And to that I can only say; don’t you think that a 16-year old can speak for herself? There’s also some people who say that I oversimplify things. For example when I say that "the climate crisis is a black and white issue”, ”we need to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases” and ”I want you to panic”. But that I only say because it’s true. Yes, the climate crisis is the most complex issue that we have ever faced and it’s going to take everything from our part to ”stop it”. But the solution is black and white; we need to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Because either we limit the warming to 1,5 degrees C over pre industrial levels, or we don’t. Either we reach a tipping point where we start a chain reaction with events way beyond human control, or we don’t. Either we go on as a civilization, or we don’t. There are no gray areas when it comes to survival.
And when I say that I want you to panic I mean that we need to treat the crisis as a crisis. When your house is on fire you don’t sit down and talk about how nice you can rebuild it once you put out the fire. If your house is on fire you run outside and make sure that everyone is out while you call the fire department. That requires some level of panic.
 
There is one other argument that I can’t do anything about. And that is the fact that I’m ”just a child and we shouldn’t be listening to children.” But that is easily fixed - just start to listen to the rock solid science instead. Because if everyone listened to the scientists and the facts that I constantly refer to - then no one would have to listen to me or any of the other hundreds of thousands of school children on strike for the climate across the world. Then we could all go back to school.
I am just a messenger, and yet I get all this hate. I am not saying anything new, I am just saying what scientists have repeatedly said for decades. And I agree with you, I’m too young to do this. We children shouldn’t have to do this. But since almost no one is doing anything, and our very future is at risk, we feel like we have to continue.
 
 
And if you have any other concern or doubt about me, then you can listen to my TED talk ( https://www.ted.com/talks/greta_thunberg_the_disarming_case_to_act_right_now_on_climate/up-next ), in which I talk about how my interest for the climate and environment began.  
 
And thank you everyone for you kind support! It brings me hope.
/Greta

[Dave]

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

Republicans never think past next Tuesday.

Dems think with their emotions...like a woman....nothing but trouble comes from that.

[SnowRider]

Greta  the 🤡 Posse  

[SnowRider]

Just now, DAVE said:

Dems think with their emotions...like a woman....nothing but trouble comes from that.

You’re the most emotional fucking pussy on the site  

[Ez ryder]

8 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Greta  the 🤡 Posse  

hey dip shit go look up who the largest financial supporters of green energy are . then let us all know if you think they should still be getting a subsidy .

 

[revkevsdi]

1 minute ago, Ez ryder said:

hey dip shit go look up who the largest financial supporters of green energy are . then let us all know if you think they should still be getting a subsidy .

 

Why don’t you post the links? Or Don’t you want us to know you get all your info from  Koch brothers sponsored sites. 

[Ez ryder]

14 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

16 year old Greta Thunberg is smarter than most Republicans and their Supporters  

 

Recently I’ve seen many rumors circulating about me and enormous amounts of hate. This is no surprise to me. I know that since most people are not aware of the full meaning of the climate crisis (which is understandable since it has never been treated as a crisis) a school strike for the climate would seem very strange to people in general.
So let me make some things clear about my school strike.
 
In may 2018 I was one of the winners in a writing competition about the environment held by Svenska Dagbladet, a Swedish newspaper. I got my article published and some people contacted me, among others was Bo Thorén from Fossil Free Dalsland. He had some kind of group with people, especially youth, who wanted to do something about the climate crisis.
I had a few phone meetings with other activists. The purpose was to come up with ideas of new projects that would bring attention to the climate crisis. Bo had a few ideas of things we could do. Everything from marches to a loose idea of some kind of a school strike (that school children would do something on the schoolyards or in the classrooms). That idea was inspired by the Parkland Students, who had refused to go to school after the school shootings.
I liked the idea of a school strike. So I developed that idea and tried to get the other young people to join me, but no one was really interested. They thought that a Swedish version of the Zero Hour march was going to have a bigger impact. So I went on planning the school strike all by myself and after that I didn’t participate in any more meetings.
 
When I told my parents about my plans they weren’t very fond of it. They did not support the idea of school striking and they said that if I were to do this I would have to do it completely by myself and with no support from them.
On the 20 of august I sat down outside the Swedish Parliament. I handed out fliers with a long list of facts about the climate crisis and explanations on why I was striking. The first thing I did was to post on Twitter and Instagram what I was doing and it soon went viral. Then journalists and newspapers started to come. A Swedish entrepreneur and business man active in the climate movement, Ingmar Rentzhog, was among the first to arrive. He spoke with me and took pictures that he posted on Facebook. That was the first time I had ever met or spoken with him. I had not communicated or encountered with him ever before.
 
Many people love to spread rumors saying that I have people ”behind me” or that I’m being ”paid” or ”used” to do what I’m doing. But there is no one ”behind” me except for  myself. My parents were as far from climate activists as possible before I made them aware of the situation.
I am not part of any organization. I sometimes support and cooperate with several NGOs that work with the climate and environment. But I am absolutely independent and I only represent myself. And I do what I do completely for free, I have not received any money or any promise of future payments in any form at all. And nor has anyone linked to me or my family done so.
And of course it will stay this way. I have not met one single climate activist who is  fighting for the climate for money. That idea is completely absurd.
Furthermore I only travel with permission from my school and my parents pay for tickets and accommodations.
 
My family has written a book together about our family and how me and my sister Beata have influenced my parents way of thinking and seeing the world, especially when it comes to the climate. And about our diagnoses.
That book was due to be released in May. But since there was a major disagreement with the book company, we ended up changing to a new publisher and so the book was released in august instead.
Before the book was released my parents made it clear that their possible profits from the book ”Scener ur hjärtat” will be going to 8 different charities working with environment, children with diagnoses and animal rights.
 
And yes, I write my own speeches. But since I know that what I say is going to reach many, many people I often ask for input. I also have a few scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. I want everything to be absolutely correct so that I don’t spread incorrect facts, or things that can be misunderstood.
 
Some people mock me for my diagnosis. But Asperger is not a disease, it’s a gift. People also say that since I have Asperger I couldn’t possibly have put myself in this position. But that’s exactly why I did this. Because if I would have been ”normal” and social I would have organized myself in an organisation, or started an organisation by myself. But since I am not that good at socializing I did this instead. I was so frustrated that nothing was being done about the climate crisis and I felt like I had to do something, anything. And sometimes NOT doing things - like just sitting down outside the parliament - speaks much louder than doing things. Just like a whisper sometimes is louder than shouting.
 
Also there is one complaint that I ”sound and write like an adult”. And to that I can only say; don’t you think that a 16-year old can speak for herself? There’s also some people who say that I oversimplify things. For example when I say that "the climate crisis is a black and white issue”, ”we need to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases” and ”I want you to panic”. But that I only say because it’s true. Yes, the climate crisis is the most complex issue that we have ever faced and it’s going to take everything from our part to ”stop it”. But the solution is black and white; we need to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Because either we limit the warming to 1,5 degrees C over pre industrial levels, or we don’t. Either we reach a tipping point where we start a chain reaction with events way beyond human control, or we don’t. Either we go on as a civilization, or we don’t. There are no gray areas when it comes to survival.
And when I say that I want you to panic I mean that we need to treat the crisis as a crisis. When your house is on fire you don’t sit down and talk about how nice you can rebuild it once you put out the fire. If your house is on fire you run outside and make sure that everyone is out while you call the fire department. That requires some level of panic.
 
There is one other argument that I can’t do anything about. And that is the fact that I’m ”just a child and we shouldn’t be listening to children.” But that is easily fixed - just start to listen to the rock solid science instead. Because if everyone listened to the scientists and the facts that I constantly refer to - then no one would have to listen to me or any of the other hundreds of thousands of school children on strike for the climate across the world. Then we could all go back to school.
I am just a messenger, and yet I get all this hate. I am not saying anything new, I am just saying what scientists have repeatedly said for decades. And I agree with you, I’m too young to do this. We children shouldn’t have to do this. But since almost no one is doing anything, and our very future is at risk, we feel like we have to continue.
 
 
And if you have any other concern or doubt about me, then you can listen to my TED talk ( https://www.ted.com/talks/greta_thunberg_the_disarming_case_to_act_right_now_on_climate/up-next ), in which I talk about how my interest for the climate and environment began.  
 
And thank you everyone for you kind support! It brings me hope.
/Greta

so quit heating your house and driving and eating livestock taking warm showers stop  flying stop using plastic stop using paper fuck stop breathing and do your family a huge favor .till then suht the fuck up talk is cheep just like your emotions

[Ez ryder]

Just now, revkevsdi said:

Why don’t you post the links? Or Don’t you want us to know you get all your info from  Koch brothers sponsored sites. 

you have Google 

[revkevsdi]

13 minutes ago, DAVE said:

Dems think with their emotions...like a woman....nothing but trouble comes from that.

You don’t think  at all. You can’t  handle fact based arguments so you resort to infantile comments. 

[Dave]

Just now, Ez ryder said:

so quit heating your house and driving and eating livestock taking warm showers stop  flying stop using plastic stop using paper fuck stop breathing and do your family a huge favor .till then suht the fuck up talk is cheep just like your emotions

Hes the typical liberal.

[Dave]

Just now, revkevsdi said:

You don’t think  at all. You can’t  handle fact based arguments so you resort to infantile comments. 

Are you looking in the mirror as you type that?

[revkevsdi]

1 minute ago, Ez ryder said:

so quit heating your house and driving and eating livestock taking warm showers stop  flying stop using plastic stop using paper fuck stop breathing and do your family a huge favor .till then suht the fuck up talk is cheep just like your emotions

Stupid comment that isn’t based on any facts. 

[Dave]

Just now, revkevsdi said:

Stupid comment that isn’t based on any facts. 

The only fact that matters is that it sums you up exactly.

[revkevsdi]

Just now, DAVE said:

The only fact that matters is that it sums you up exactly.

Get back to me when you can stay on topic with facts and links to back them up. You bore me.