KAVANAUGH JOINS LIBERALS TO PROTECT PRO-PLANNED PARENTHOOD RULING

[Anler]

18 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

There are many many many people out there that would love to take care of them. Oh, and I've never bitched about children being taken care of. Plus your response is the typical straw man argument that is floated around here. You know the argument that abortion is okay because someone disagrees with social spending by the government.

 

Abortion shouldn't be used as a form of contraception period 

Nor should our military be used by private interests and foreign govts to procure mineral assets of other countries who have not attacked us or pose any threat to us. $750 billion next year of post birth abortion by the tens of thousands. 

 

[racer254]

16 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

You didn’t read what I wrote at all did you? I made my point as clear as day. One ruling doesn’t make him bad or good. You can agree with a ruling but still not like or dislike someone. Go back and read it again. 

I agree, let's see how he rules on things. 

[Angry ginger]

22 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

There are many many many people out there that would love to take care of them. Oh, and I've never bitched about children being taken care of. Plus your response is the typical straw man argument that is floated around here. You know the argument that abortion is okay because someone disagrees with social spending by the government.

 

Abortion shouldn't be used as a form of contraception period 

unless they are black living in the inner city then fuck em,  lets give them shitty schools, no free food then wonder why they don;t turn out to be as good as the upper middle class white kids.  

[racer254]

18 minutes ago, Anler said:

Nor should our military be used by private interests and foreign govts to procure mineral assets of other countries who have not attacked us or pose any threat to us. $750 billion next year of post birth abortion by the tens of thousands. 

 

Why have people allowed themselves to be taught to think this way?  How many military families got raises?   How many jobs are created because of this?  If this was a bailout or tarp or called anything but "military spending" would it be viewed differently?

Edited December 11, 2018 by racer254

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

4 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Why have people allowed themselves to be taught to think this way?  How many military families got raises?  How many VA hospitals got more $$$ for veterans?  How many jobs are created because of this?  If this was a bailout or tarp or called anything but "military spending" would it be viewed differently?

Taught? Come on. It’s true. Also, the VA isn’t part of that $750B. A 2.3% pay raise? No raise to BAH. So not keeping pace with inflation or COL increases. Noted. Don’t even try to use it’s better than before. A turd sammich is a turd sammich even if you added more lettuce. Jobs created that are unsustainable in the long run due to the expense to our debt. So those jobs go away when the world economy crashes and we can’t afford the MIC. That sounds great... Basically what we have here is corporate MIC welfare with no tangible benefit to the men and women who serve. 

You want to talk what’s good for soldiers? How about you understand what they are getting first?

[Anler]

10 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Why have people allowed themselves to be taught to think this way?  How many military families got raises?   How many jobs are created because of this?  If this was a bailout or tarp or called anything but "military spending" would it be viewed differently?

Stand up and salute that flag or get the fuck out! Thats why

[Jimmy Snacks]

16 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Why have people allowed themselves to be taught to think this way?  How many military families got raises?   How many jobs are created because of this?  If this was a bailout or tarp or called anything but "military spending" would it be viewed differently?

 

6 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Taught? Come on. It’s true. Also, the VA isn’t part of that $750B. A 2.3% pay raise? No raise to BAH. So not keeping pace with inflation or COL increases. Noted. Don’t even try to use it’s better than before. A turd sammich is a turd sammich even if you added more lettuce. Jobs created that are unsustainable in the long run due to the expense to our debt. So those jobs go away when the world economy crashes and we can’t afford the MIC. That sounds great... Basically what we have here is corporate MIC welfare with no tangible benefit to the men and women who serve. 

You want to talk what’s good for soldiers? How about you understand what they are getting first?

Racer likes lettuce and extra pickles on his turd sammiches.....he eats them while he listens to Lee Greenwood.

[racer254]

Just now, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

Racer likes lettuce and extra pickles on his turd sammiches.....he eats them while he listens to Lee Greenwood.

See dude, you don't respond with anything substantial, so why respond at all?   Or should I just start saying "FISH ON"

[Jimmy Snacks]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

See dude, you don't respond with anything substantial, so why respond at all?   Or should I just start saying "FISH ON"

Oh so now you are going to say you are just fishing....nice try.😂

[racer254]

13 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Taught? Come on. It’s true. Also, the VA isn’t part of that $750B. A 2.3% pay raise? No raise to BAH. So not keeping pace with inflation or COL increases. Noted. Don’t even try to use it’s better than before. A turd sammich is a turd sammich even if you added more lettuce. Jobs created that are unsustainable in the long run due to the expense to our debt. So those jobs go away when the world economy crashes and we can’t afford the MIC. That sounds great... Basically what we have here is corporate MIC welfare with no tangible benefit to the men and women who serve. 

You want to talk what’s good for soldiers? How about you understand what they are getting first?

 

 

Veterans Affairs

The Veterans Affairs Department requested $199 billion, an increase of $12 billion, or 6.5 percent, from the current request. The plan includes nearly $110 billion in mandatory funding for benefits programs and $89 billion in discretionary funding, with the goal of "expanding health-care services, improving quality and expanding choice to over 9 million enrolled Veterans," the VA said. The budget includes money for the Veterans Choice Program, which allows vets to seek private-sector care. It also includes another $1.2 billion for a costly effort begun in 2011 to make health records electronic and reintroduces a controversial proposal to round-down cost-of-living (COLA) adjustments to the nearest dollar for vets who receive disability compensation -- a practice that was standard until 2013, Stars and Stripes reported.

 

This was in the breakdown for the 716 billion that was previously requested.

Edited December 11, 2018 by racer254

[ActionfigureJoe]

10 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

Racer likes lettuce and extra pickles on his turd sammiches.....he eats them while he listens to Lee Greenwood.

This still gives racer the chills. Filmed shortly before exploding deficits, expansion of the Afghanistan war effort, increased trade deficits, and expanding illegal immigration. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by ActionfigureJoe

[steve from amherst]

53 minutes ago, Anler said:

Nor should our military be used by private interests and foreign govts to procure mineral assets of other countries who have not attacked us or pose any threat to us. $750 billion next year of post birth abortion by the tens of thousands. 

 

Cutting the world population helps the fight with global warmi, oops climate change.

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

12 minutes ago, racer254 said:

 

Veterans Affairs

The Veterans Affairs Department requested $199 billion, an increase of $12 billion, or 6.5 percent, from the current request. The plan includes nearly $110 billion in mandatory funding for benefits programs and $89 billion in discretionary funding, with the goal of "expanding health-care services, improving quality and expanding choice to over 9 million enrolled Veterans," the VA said. The budget includes money for the Veterans Choice Program, which allows vets to seek private-sector care. It also includes another $1.2 billion for a costly effort begun in 2011 to make health records electronic and reintroduces a controversial proposal to round-down cost-of-living (COLA) adjustments to the nearest dollar for vets who receive disability compensation -- a practice that was standard until 2013, Stars and Stripes reported.

 

This was in the breakdown for the 716 billion that was previously requested.

No. Wrong. It is not of the $716B. The VA is not included in the $716B previously agreed on. They are separate from the DOD budget. Do I have to explain this again? Also, if you read your own quote, the first sentence clearly outlines a key word: REQUESTED. Not given. So you have the $750B and then an additional amount for the VA. I’ll be civil when debating you, but you need to inform yourself because right now you are lost. 

[steve from amherst]

And when added in the total nears 1 trillion. 

And how much is a trillion?

 

You can spend $1,000,000 dollars a day, 365 days a year and it would take you approximately 3000 years to spend a trillion dollars.

[Anler]

19 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Cutting the world population helps the fight with global warmi, oops climate change.

except the military is the largest global warming culprit in the world. oops! would be more environmentally friendly to engage in biological warfare. 

[Anler]

15 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

And when added in the total nears 1 trillion. 

And how much is a trillion?

 

You can spend $1,000,000 dollars a day, 365 days a year and it would take you approximately 3000 years to spend a trillion dollars.

Cant put a price on freedom!

[Snoslinger]

51 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Taught? Come on. It’s true. Also, the VA isn’t part of that $750B. A 2.3% pay raise? No raise to BAH. So not keeping pace with inflation or COL increases. Noted. Don’t even try to use it’s better than before. A turd sammich is a turd sammich even if you added more lettuce. Jobs created that are unsustainable in the long run due to the expense to our debt. So those jobs go away when the world economy crashes and we can’t afford the MIC. That sounds great... Basically what we have here is corporate MIC welfare with no tangible benefit to the men and women who serve. 

You want to talk what’s good for soldiers? How about you understand what they are getting first?

Damn, looks like XLT is waking up finally. 

[racer254]

I guess it is not, it is added to it.  My bad.

https://iava.org/blogs/budget-breakdown-2019-numbers-for-va-dod-and-what-they-mean/

Edited December 11, 2018 by racer254

[steve from amherst]

6 minutes ago, Anler said:

except the military is the largest global warming culprit in the world. oops! would be more environmentally friendly to engage in biological warfare. 

lets do it 

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

They put it in as a breakdown, but I guess it is not, it is added to it.

https://iava.org/blogs/budget-breakdown-2019-numbers-for-va-dod-and-what-they-mean/

It’s a common misconception, but a very important one. That’s a big excuse that the neocons Love to use. “Don’t you care about the troops?” The DOD budget does cover COLA/pay increases, but they are also nominal (even if they are the biggest...). So where does that money go? Yes, you’re right, it creates jobs, but at what expense to our economical solvency? At what expense to future generations? That money is thrown out the window because not throwing it out the window hurts jobs. How about we slice that sucker in half and spend it where it counts. Consolidate, reform, improve. Then we take that $375B and spend it on job creation in industries that have a return...

[racer254]

3 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

It’s a common misconception, but a very important one. That’s a big excuse that the neocons Love to use. “Don’t you care about the troops?” The DOD budget does cover COLA/pay increases, but they are also nominal (even if they are the biggest...). So where does that money go? Yes, you’re right, it creates jobs, but at what expense to our economical solvency? At what expense to future generations? That money is thrown out the window because not throwing it out the window hurts jobs. How about we slice that sucker in half and spend it where it counts. Consolidate, reform, improve. Then we take that $375B and spend it on job creation in industries that have a return...

Yep, I missed that and I am all for slicing it in half or more.  BTW, who is going to lead that charge?  Did you see how the votes went previously, seems that it isn't just one sided.

Edited December 11, 2018 by racer254

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

Just now, racer254 said:

Yep, I missed that and I am all for slicing it in half or more.  BTW, who is going to lead that charge?  Did you see how the votes went, seems that it isn't just one sided.

Neocons aren’t just R’s, you’re right on that.The charge is led by setting the stage. Election reform (money), a rethought global presence where everyone else doesn’t need to have a tape measure whipped out to compare weenies, and alternative jobs created/ready to be created. Then you just need a leader... A real one. Not a Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. Unfortuantely leaders are like unicorns. You know exactly what they are, what they look like, but you don’t ever see them. 

[CheezusXR8]

1 hour ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Neocons aren’t just R’s, you’re right on that.The charge is led by setting the stage. Election reform (money), a rethought global presence where everyone else doesn’t need to have a tape measure whipped out to compare weenies, and alternative jobs created/ready to be created. Then you just need a leader... A real one. Not a Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. Unfortuantely leaders are like unicorns. You know exactly what they are, what they look like, but you don’t ever see them. 

You got my vote, Donny Buffalo can be your campaign manager.  

[Momorider]

So this wasn't the case to defund PP  priorities 

[1jkw]

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

I guess it is not, it is added to it.  My bad.

https://iava.org/blogs/budget-breakdown-2019-numbers-for-va-dod-and-what-they-mean/

Good  for you,  admit when you are wrong, far too many won't.