Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yes....hatred for each other so why in the fuck did we get involved? We NEVER should have beyond bombing the training camps in Afghanistan and maybe some special forces to kill Bin Laden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: We NEVER should have beyond bombing the training camps in Afghanistan and maybe some special forces to kill Bin Laden. What about sticking our noses into Iran in 1953.....you act like our post 9-11 reaction was the first time we dicked around over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: While we've fucked up plenty nothing we have done has caused the hatred between Muslims. They've been repressing and killing each other off long before we got involved in the ME. So you dont think occupying their lands and killing thousands of them (including innocents) has caused any bad feelings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: So you dont think occupying their lands and killing thousands of them (including innocents) has caused any bad feelings? That's called winning hearts and minds and spreading democracy!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: That's called winning hearts and minds and spreading democracy!!!!!!!!! What about destabilizing govts and imposing merit-less sanctions then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: What about destabilizing govts and imposing merit-less sanctions then? Well fuck...you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!!!!! Those savages just don't know what's good for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well fuck...you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!!!!! Those savages just don't know what's good for them! Letting them kill each other isnt good enough, we have to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: Letting them kill each other isnt good enough, we have to help! Merica!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What about sticking our noses into Iran in 1953.....you act like our post 9-11 reaction was the first time we dicked around over there. Dont expect an rational conversation with a fucking level 12 bookcker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What about sticking our noses into Iran in 1953.....you act like our post 9-11 reaction was the first time we dicked around over there. The world was a different place after WW2. Should have we stuck our nose in? No but realize we were less than a decade removed from WW2 and communism was by far and away the leading threat to the world and peace. GB and the US were trying to stop it from getting a stranglehold in the ME. Its not all that different from the Fascism that brought us WW2 and the countries that helped defeat it didn't want another one. 16 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: So you dont think occupying their lands and killing thousands of them (including innocents) has caused any bad feelings? Sorry but I don't agree with the word occupying at least not as a mission objective long term. Again we've done plenty wrong but in the end whether oil or peace is the reason we were trying to give countries (Iraq/Afg) a better way of life. The intention was never to make them US territories. Reasonable justification? No because its clear they don't want peace and can't accept peace even between themselves. The Sunni/Shia fight has been going on for 1400 years since the passing of the prophet. Take an hour sometime and watch a documentary on Saddam H. He was really, really evil. Should Germany, Italy and Japan hate us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: The world was a different place after WW2. Should have we stuck our nose in? No but realize we were less than a decade removed from WW2 and communism was by far and away the leading threat to the world and peace. GB and the US were trying to stop it from getting a stranglehold in the ME. Its not all that different from the Fascism that brought us WW2 and the countries that helped defeat it didn't want another one. Sorry but I don't agree with the word occupying at least not as a mission objective long term. Again we've done plenty wrong but in the end whether oil or peace is the reason we were trying to give countries (Iraq/Afg) a better way of life. The intention was never to make them US territories. Reasonable justification? No because its clear they don't want peace and can't accept peace even between themselves. The Sunni/Shia fight has been going on for 1400 years since the passing of the prophet. Take an hour sometime and watch a documentary on Saddam H. He was really, really evil. Should Germany, Italy and Japan hate us? So toppling democratically elected governments and installing dictators was the best way we could think of to prevent fascism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: The world was a different place after WW2. Should have we stuck our nose in? No but realize we were less than a decade removed from WW2 and communism was by far and away the leading threat to the world and peace. GB and the US were trying to stop it from getting a stranglehold in the ME. Its not all that different from the Fascism that brought us WW2 and the countries that helped defeat it didn't want another one. Sorry but I don't agree with the word occupying at least not as a mission objective long term. Again we've done plenty wrong but in the end whether oil or peace is the reason we were trying to give countries (Iraq/Afg) a better way of life. The intention was never to make them US territories. Reasonable justification? No because its clear they don't want peace and can't accept peace even between themselves. The Sunni/Shia fight has been going on for 1400 years since the passing of the prophet. Take an hour sometime and watch a documentary on Saddam H. He was really, really evil. Should Germany, Italy and Japan hate us? That is the most retarded view of our entire middle east policy I have heard yet. So we spend trillions of dollars to give them a better life by bombing the shit out of them and destabilizing their govt? Is that the purpose of our military? And what better life has any of them had? We have created a refugee crisis like never seen since WW2. Holy fucking retarded dude, seriously... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: So toppling democratically elected governments and installing dictators was the best way we could think of to prevent fascism? You're goddamned right!!!!!! 😂 Oh let's not forget that oil was involved as well...thanks Great Britain. http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/state_of_paralysis.php Edited October 11, 2018 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: That is the most retarded view of our entire middle east policy I have heard yet. So we spend trillions of dollars to give them a better life by bombing the shit out of them and destabilizing their govt? Is that the purpose of our military? And what better life has any of them had? We have created a refugee crisis like never seen since WW2. Holy fucking retarded dude, seriously... It really is amazing and pathetic at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: So toppling democratically elected governments and installing dictators was the best way we could think of to prevent fascism? Again. Different time coming out of WW2. The spread of communism was a real thing. I'm not saying the method of overthrowing Mosaddegh was justifiable I can just understand the reasoning giving the time in history it occurred and what was going on around the world. I love how everyone likes to look at things thru modern day lenses instead of thinking about what things of might of been at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Highmark is lost without spoon fed talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: Again. Different time coming out of WW2. The spread of communism was a real thing. I'm not saying the method of overthrowing Mosaddegh was justifiable I can just understand the reasoning giving the time in history it occurred and what was going on around the world. I love how everyone likes to look at things thru modern day lenses instead of thinking about what things of might of been at the time. But we are still doing the same shit....goddamn dude wake the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: But we are still doing the same shit....goddamn dude wake the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: That's funny or you disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: That's funny or you disagree? I disagree on the reasons we're in the ME or more so attacked in 01 and 03. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I disagree on the reasons we're in the ME or more so attacked in 01 and 03. Who cares about the exact reasons...we are fucking around all over the globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Highmark said: The world was a different place after WW2. Should have we stuck our nose in? No but realize we were less than a decade removed from WW2 and communism was by far and away the leading threat to the world and peace. GB and the US were trying to stop it from getting a stranglehold in the ME. Its not all that different from the Fascism that brought us WW2 and the countries that helped defeat it didn't want another one. Sorry but I don't agree with the word occupying at least not as a mission objective long term. Again we've done plenty wrong but in the end whether oil or peace is the reason we were trying to give countries (Iraq/Afg) a better way of life. The intention was never to make them US territories. Reasonable justification? No because its clear they don't want peace and can't accept peace even between themselves. The Sunni/Shia fight has been going on for 1400 years since the passing of the prophet. Take an hour sometime and watch a documentary on Saddam H. He was really, really evil. Should Germany, Italy and Japan hate us? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 11, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, SSFB said: I agree and have said Iraq and Afg are mistakes. Nothing wrong with agreeing with the initial intentions but not agreeing with implementation or results. Done again we should have never went in Iraq and only used air power and some special forces in Afg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Highmark is lost without spoon fed talking points. Its completely retarded. Yesterday we are talking about the crumbling of our entire economy under the weight of our massive debt and out of control spending. These idiots are screaming Fuck health care, fuck social security, fuck welfare.. That socialism!!!! We need to spend trillions making a better life for muslims in the middle east by bombing and killing them and destroying their govt and economy!!!11 garble garble.. Its beyond comprehension.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, SSFB said: Poor socialism\communism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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