Aretha Franklin respect thread.

[Cold War]

3 hours ago, Nazipigdog said:

Aretha is a music legend for sure but being a great singer does not make you a great person. Dont know much about her personal dealings so I wont comment either way. 

I agree.  She was a  talented singer & Im sure iconic for those who grew up in that time period.  Not sure why the media always has to hyperbole everything. Can’t we just leave it at that and not act like she cured cancer . 

[Cold War]

6 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Elvis was white. 

Yes, yes he was .   

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Cold War said:

I agree.  She was a  talented singer & Im sure iconic for those who grew up in that time period.  Not sure why the media always has to hyperbole everything. Can’t we just leave it at that and not act like she cured cancer . 

Indeed.  My mother liked her and my dad liked jazz.  I grew up with that shit always playing in my house.  She was a talent for sure...but not my style.  I don’t need to hear or see her all day long on the news.

Meh....RIP Aretha.

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Cold War said:

Yes, yes he was .   

Tear down his statues!!!!  All impersonators will be hung!!!!!!

[Carlos Danger]

On 8/15/2018 at 7:16 AM, hwytohell said:

Franklin was ripped off and used from her days under the (d)etoilet  Motown record  label , yes she and her crew stiffed a bunch of people , the lawsuits are proof, But she had a voice that brought smiles to the faces of many that like her music.

She was with Atlantic records.

[Cold War]

5 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Indeed.  My mother liked her and my dad liked jazz.  I grew up with that shit always playing in my house.  She was a talent for sure...but not my style.  I don’t need to hear or see her all day long on the news.

Meh....RIP Aretha.

Our local news is running nonstop coverage with limited interruptions. 

News anchors trying to out do each other praising her.  

she was the greatest singer in the world!!

she wrote the soundtrack for my life growing up!!!

ok, you are what 35???  Doubt it. 

[Zambroski]

7 minutes ago, Cold War said:

Our local news is running nonstop coverage with limited interruptions. 

News anchors trying to out do each other praising her.  

she was the greatest singer in the world!!

she wrote the soundtrack for my life growing up!!!

ok, you are what 35???  Doubt it. 

Yep.  Heard the same shit.  The EXACT SAME.  “It was like she had a view into my soul.”

Good fucking grief.

[hwytohell]

1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said:

She was with Atlantic records.

Thank you for the correction .   

[Cold War]

One local station is tailgating outside her church .  They have a tent set up.  Very bizarre.  Debbie stabenow is taking it to the   Floor.... national holiday?   

[SVT MXZ XRS]

39 minutes ago, Cold War said:

One local station is tailgating outside her church .  They have a tent set up.  Very bizarre.  Debbie stabenow is taking it to the   Floor.... national holiday?   

Of course. She's looking for the black votes in the upcoming election.  James is going to destroy that useless cunt 

[Sal Rosenberg]

2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Elvis was white. 

 

Tiny Elvis was too , come to think of it .   

[Jimmy Snacks]

Well so much for the respect aspect of the thread...what a bunch of  mooks.

[Guest]

The preacher that gave a 50 minute eulogy at her funeral is being excoriated by her family now. He said a lot of distasteful stuff.

Arianna Grande coming out in a mini-dress. 

Poor black people, they just can't get their shit together. It's biological. 

[Guest]

Aretha had her FIRST kid at AGE 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WTF is up with that? Was she raped? Was anybody charged with statutory rape?  WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she had the fukken kid at 12, that means she could have been fucked as young as 11 years old!!!!

The second kid at 15!!! 

Then you wonder why we got big problems with blacks in America. 

Blacks know what they are doing. They are outbreeding us, to kill us someday. 

You guys think I'm crazy, but your kids and grandkids will see it in their lifetimes. 

[Cold War]

After in tense social media scorn,   Franklin family releases apology for black pastor suggesting blacks address not killing  one another.

Edited September 4, 2018 by Cold War

[SmeeAgain]

On ‎8‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 9:06 PM, Cold War said:

Ummm - none .  Serial non payer who likes to rip people offf .  38 some lawsuits of non payment.    

Also would demand cash payment when she worked so she didn't have to report the income.  Very dishonest.

[hwytohell]

6 minutes ago, Cold War said:

After in tense social media scorn,   Franklin family releases apology for black pastor suggesting blacks address not killing  one another.

Read that on both (d)etoilet papers.  That was not the only apology that the Franklin family should have to issue on the hate spewing political funeral of such a grand icon to many. imo.

[hwytohell]

4 minutes ago, SmeeAgain said:

Also would demand cash payment when she worked so she didn't have to report the income.  Very dishonest.

Many of the very early black entertainers across the board  would demand cash payments as they were screwed out of payments from their own skin color promoters and  white  big shot money men, that would flat refuse to pay up. Some cities back in the day would have so called  " tax collectors " at the venues  hounding for the so called  monies owed. Doubt that any of it was ever (d)epoisted into a tax trough . The Franklin family members are at each other already  in MI courts about her estate. Some are saying it is worth 50 - 80 million dollars , she had no legal will or trust.  1 -800 call Sam , are looking for 33 % plus costs.

[Cold War]

11 minutes ago, hwytohell said:

Read that on both (d)etoilet papers.  That was not the only apology that the Franklin family should have to issue on the hate spewing political funeral of such a grand icon to many. imo.

My local morning news deemed the comment too  offensive  to repeat.

[Cold War]

Not sure why the family was targeted or why they had to apologize for others.

[SmeeAgain]

2 minutes ago, hwytohell said:

Many of the very early black entertainers across the board  would demand cash payments as they were screwed out of payments from their own skin color promoters and  white  big shot money men, that would flat refuse to pay up. Some cities back in the day would have so called  " tax collectors " at the venues  hounding for the so called  monies owed. Doubt that any of it was ever (d)epoisted into a tax trough . The Franklin family members are at each other already  in MI courts about her estate. Some are saying it is worth 50 - 80 million dollars , she had no legal will or trust.  1 -800 call Sam , are looking for 33 % plus costs.

Damn! No will? Those dipshits at Sam's will soak them good for no work.  The Bernstein law firm is the worst!  All the other attorneys and insurance companies know to lowball them as they know they'll take any offer. Sam Bernstein has never tried a case in court and doesn't practice law.  He's just a TV figure for the ads and company.  They have a shitload of attorneys there.

[hwytohell]

22 minutes ago, SmeeAgain said:

Damn! No will? Those dipshits at Sam's will soak them good for no work.  The Bernstein law firm is the worst!  All the other attorneys and insurance companies know to lowball them as they know they'll take any offer. Sam Bernstein has never tried a case in court and doesn't practice law.  He's just a TV figure for the ads and company.  They have a shitload of attorneys there.

I was making a joke about 1-800 call Sam . The so called legal mouth piece firm were listed in both (d)etoilet  papers for the Franklin family estate saga.

[hwytohell]

30 minutes ago, Cold War said:

Not sure why the family was targeted or why they had to apologize for others.

The pastor that was requested by the late Aretha Franklin , made a powerful speech from the funeral pulpit about black on black crime , shooting each other ,  missing fathers in the homes , abortion in the black community, being tied to one political thought, short changing ourselves in education  for the street life.  Some in the funeral audience heckled  him , the pastor had none of it right back.  You can now figure out  why the Franklin family  was force(d) to speak out. It was covered  on BBC America and the PBS news hour, the fake news me(d)ia gave it it's own very little air time play and alt- left spin.

[Cold War]

5 hours ago, SmeeAgain said:

Damn! No will? Those dipshits at Sam's will soak them good for no work.  The Bernstein law firm is the worst!  All the other attorneys and insurance companies know to lowball them as they know they'll take any offer. Sam Bernstein has never tried a case in court and doesn't practice law.  He's just a TV figure for the ads and company.  They have a shitload of attorneys there.

I hate all of them.  Bunch of leaches.  

4 hours ago, hwytohell said:

The pastor that was requested by the late Aretha Franklin , made a powerful speech from the funeral pulpit about black on black crime , shooting each other ,  missing fathers in the homes , abortion in the black community, being tied to one political thought, short changing ourselves in education  for the street life.  Some in the funeral audience heckled  him , the pastor had none of it right back.  You can now figure out  why the Franklin family  was force(d) to speak out. It was covered  on BBC America and the PBS news hour, the fake news me(d)ia gave it it's own very little air time play and alt- left spin.

Kind of  odd a woman was sexually assaulted and the internet was quiet, no apologies necessary.  But,  holy shit a pastor suggesting not killing each other and all hell breaks loose. 

[XCR1250]

In his eulogy, Williams spoke on the state of black America, saying it had lost its soul and that Franklin was calling on her race to turn its direction around.

Williams referenced black-on-black crime and killings in particular.

"If you choose to ask me today 'do Black Lives Matter?' let me answer like this: No, black lives do not matter. Black lives will not matter. Black lives ought not matter. Black lives should not matter, black lives must not matter until black people start respecting black lives and stop killing ourselves, black lives can never matter," he said.

Commenting on solo parenting, he said: "A black woman cannot raise a black boy to be a man."

"Right in your own neighborhoods, where your church is, there are struggling single moms, that don't know what to do. That needs a man in the house through mentoring programs and parenting our children, we can turn black America around," he said. "The Queen of Soul has spoken now, time now for black America to come back home."

Franklin had four sons, the first of whom was born when she was 12 years old.

 

 

'Negative agenda'

"Rev. Jasper Williams spent more than 50 minutes speaking and at no time did he properly eulogize her [Aretha Franklin]," Franklin's nephew, Vaughn Franklin, said in a statement issued on behalf of the family Monday.

"We feel that Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. used this platform to push his negative agenda, which as a family, we do not agree with," Vaughn Franklin said.

He said Williams had been asked to speak because he had eulogized Aretha Franklin's father as well as her brother and sister.

"My aunt did not ask Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. to eulogize her before she passed away because dying is a topic that she never discussed with anyone," Franklin said.

"However, there were several people that my aunt admired that would have been outstanding individuals to deliver her eulogy including Dr. William J. Barber, Rev. Al Sharpton, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, Rev. James Holley and Pastor E.L. Branch."

Williams addresses critics

Addressing criticism of his eulogy at a news conference given before the Franklin family released its statement, Williams stood by his words, saying Aretha Franklin had chosen and trusted him to speak and that he wanted her life to continue beyond the funeral.

Williams said he did not mean that single mothers were unable to raise their children.

"I'm talking about many single women struggling to raise their children and in the black community there is no mentoring for the children. And that when a boy is there, for example, and 70+% of our households are headed by our precious women and as precious, beautiful and proud as they are, they cannot teach a boy how to be a man," he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"So one of the ails and ills that we have in the African American community is that too many of our homes are headed by women without men in the house," the pastor said. "But the women need help in their homes and our race needs to become sensitive to that to be able to do that."

Addressing Black Lives Matter, Williams echoed the comments he made in the eulogy.

"I'm saying that when we as a race sit back and get mad, if a police officer kills one of us, and we don't say anything when 100 of us are killed by us that something is wrong with that. I'm not saying that black lives do not matter in terms of the worth of a black life, but what I'm saying in essence is that it does not matter, ought not matter, should not matter, cannot matter until black people begin to -- Aretha -- R-E-S-P-E-C-T, respect black lives. Only then will black lives matter."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Asked whether he thought Franklin would have approved of his eulogy, Williams said: "Because of the great contributor that she was to the civil rights movement and all that she gave, I would think that if I'm doing something to turn black America around, that she would be pleased."

Edited September 5, 2018 by XCR1250