Zambroski Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: You got fucking owned and apparently so did HSR although he didnt really argue also Legend had no idea what Direct Injection was Man...that's what I like about you...NEVER SAY DIE!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Man...that's what I like about you...NEVER SAY DIE!!!!!!! Prove one thing I said wrong momo.....just one thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Man...that's what I like about you...NEVER SAY DIE!!!!!!! Are you really a flat brimmed wannabe SnoX trail wrecker too fuckin scared to go faster than 68mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, bussman said: Are you really a flat brimmed wannabe SnoX trail wrecker too fuckin scared to go faster than 68mph? I'm assuming you met him to have him pegged like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, f7ben said: Prove one thing I said wrong momo.....just one thing So that's the measuring stick of a "win". Spew out a bunch of generalizations, then have somebody try to prove you wrong? No, you are correct. All the OEM mils use fuel for their detonation and all have minor differences in how the fuel is delivered. #winningthoughvagueness 23 minutes ago, bussman said: Are you really a flat brimmed wannabe SnoX trail wrecker too fuckin scared to go faster than 68mph? No. Next question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, f7ben said: You got fucking owned and apparently so did HSR although he didnt really argue also Legend had no idea what Direct Injection was Sorry Ben I am sorta busy at work.Had a little brain fart earlier,,no biggie. here's a read for ya gasoline direct injection (GDI), also known as petrol direct injection, direct petrol injection, spark-ignited direct injection (SIDI) and fuel-stratified injection (FSI), is a variant of fuel injection employed in modern two-stroke and four-stroke gasoline engines. The gasoline is highly pressurized, and injected via a common rail fuel line directly into the combustion chamber of each cylinder, as opposed to conventional multipoint fuel injection that injects fuel into the intake tract or cylinder port. Polaris sleds are not DI Edited February 26, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, f7ben said: 100% incorrect......direct inject means that injection pulse occurs after the piston has moved past the ports and is in the compression portion of the stroke....thus the need for fuel pressures exceeding 500psi to overcome the pressure in the combustion chamber. It really has nothing to do with location of the injector being in the top of the head or side of the head or top side of the cylinder etc etc How can fuel be injected after the pistons cover up the ports if the injector is not into the head or very top of the cylinder? The only way to achieve DI on a 2 stroke is with proper injector placement. I am 100% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) DP Edited February 26, 2018 by Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Legend said: How can fuel be injected after the pistons cover up the ports if the injector is not into the head or very top of the cylinder? The only way to achieve DI on a 2 stroke is with proper injector placement. I am 100% correct. You said in the top of the head.....it can be anywhere above the exhaust port you idiot. Injector location has nothing to do with it......its when the injection occurs that makes it DI There are SDI setups with the injectors in the top of the engine also but they cannot inject after the exhaust port is closed You were 100% wrong as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, f7ben said: You got fucking owned and apparently so did HSR although he didnt really argue also Legend had no idea what Direct Injection was You are no different than Passo or Northstarrick. Learn shit on the internet and pass it off like you know what the fuck you are talking about. From reading your threads, you have no fucking clue on how turbo's, DI, or engine design works. But whatever, you bought a clutch kit once and had someone help you install it and now your an expert..... Edited February 26, 2018 by Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: You said in the top of the head.....it can be anywhere above the exhaust port you idiot. Injector location has nothing to do with it......its when the injection occurs that makes it DI There are SDI setups with the injectors in the top of the engine also but they cannot inject after the exhaust port is closed You were 100% wrong as usual Again, you cannot have DI without proper injector placement. Thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, Legend said: You are no different than Passo or Northstarrick. Learn shit on the internet and pass it off like you know what the fuck you are talking about. From reading your threads, you have no fucking clue on how turbo's, DI, or engine design works. But whatever, you bought a clue kit once and had someone help you install it and now your an expert..... I have 100% more experience than you....that is a fact you fucking idiot. I have owned and wrenched more modded sleds than you have seen. You are a fucking poser who got owned on what you thought you knew and now you are butthurt cry ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, Legend said: Again, you cannot have DI without proper injector placement. Thanks for playing. injector placement has nothing to do with it as long as injector is above exhaust port......fucking moron plenty of engines have injectors above exhaust port and are not DI.......god damn are you stupid. The whole issue with DI is fuel pressure and how to create it. The injector placement is rudimentary shit and not even worth mentioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I have 100% more experience than you....that is a fact you fucking idiot. I have owned and wrenched more modded sleds than you have seen. You are a fucking poser who got owned on what you thought you knew and now you are butthurt cry ass yeah I bet. Id LOVE to have you show me in person your mechanical skills. Ill buy the coors light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: injector placement has nothing to do with it as long as injector is above exhaust port......fucking moron plenty of engines have injectors above exhaust port and are not DI.......god damn are you stupid. The whole issue with DI is fuel pressure and how to create it. The injector placement is rudimentary shit and not even worth mentioning You are one dense person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 direct injection injects into the COMBUSTION chamber NOT the intake tract. The placement is everything Ben the timing of the injector opening is for emissions and does not make it "Direct" the placement of the injector does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) I seem to recall A PM from you a couple years back asking about Polaris engines and how to keep them alive.......I'll have to look for that again.... @f7ben Edited February 26, 2018 by Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, HSR said: direct injection injects into the COMBUSTION chamber NOT the intake tract. The placement is everything Ben the timing of the injector opening is for emissions and does not make it "Direct" the placement of the injector does. NO NO NO. Its all about fuel pressure and exhaust ports......haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, HSR said: direct injection injects into the COMBUSTION chamber NOT the intake tract. The placement is everything Ben the timing of the injector opening is for emissions and does not make it "Direct" the placement of the injector does. Sorry HSR that is 100% incorrect......direct inject means the fuel is injected after the exhaust valve is closed requiring fuel pressures in excess of 500psi. The pressures are only able to be created by mechanical means.....mechanical injector coils are used to allow this. It allows for incredibly precise fuel control and efficiency since none of the fuel charge is lost out the exhaust port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Legend said: I seem to recall A PM from you a couple years back asking about Polaris engines and how to keep them alive.......I'll have to look for that again.... @f7ben Yah so what.....were you born with knowledge on every engine you ever worked on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, f7ben said: I'm assuming you met him to have him pegged like that He had to be in the Air Force, no way he’s me, Ryan, Snake and Steve’s people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Yah so what.....were you born with knowledge on every engine you ever worked on? No its called first hand experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Ben you are confusing fuel injection facts with direct injection facts. What I said is 100% correct I even provided you with a definition of DI. So tell me what the difference is between Semi-Direct injection and Direct injection. I'll help you,,,, it's the placement of the injectors . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSR said: Ben you are confusing fuel injection facts with direct injection facts. What I said is 100% correct I even provided you with a definition of DI. So tell me what the difference is between Semi-Direct injection and Direct injection. I'll help you,,,, it's the placement of the injectors . sure...SDI injects somewhere other than directly in the cylinder.....hence why its called SDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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