Cold War Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Bulldoze over all slum areas would be a start. Well. We have sanctuary cities Why can't we have crime zones. These people do not want the police in their neighborhood or arresting anyone. I think at very least patrols should be stopped . Come only when called. It would certainly lower conflicts Edited August 6, 2016 by Cold War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cold War said: Well. We have sanctuary cities Why can't we have crime zones. These people do not want the police in their neighborhood or arresting anyone. I think at very least patrols should be stopped . Come only when called. It would certainly lower conflicts We could even give them ar-15's just to get things rolling good right? Edited August 6, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: We could even give them ar-15's just to get things rolling good right? I dont think they need help man. lol http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=530_1439998352 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Wildcat said: I dont think they need help man. lol http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=530_1439998352 They be a packin' for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Biggie Smails said: While he did steal a car, nearly run over an officer and then slam into a patrol car but at the point does he as unarmed fleeing suspect deserve to be shot in the back and killed? Seems as if the officers were trigger happy and on the video you can hear them ask in confusion if the suspect shot at them....bad deal all the way around. http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/ I can understand the cops being amped up, but the shooting was reckless especially when they were shooting at the car as it was heading towards a police SUV, they should have just chased the kid and knocked him around. The police chief jumped on this right away and has suspended the officers who broke the rules. Quote The videos show officers firing on the reportedly stolen Jaguar as it drove away from them, and their shots appear to place officers farther down the street in danger of being shot. The city's use-of-force policy explicitly bars police from firing at a moving vehicle if it represents the only threat against officers. The videos capture at least 15 shots being fired in about five seconds as the Jaguar passed the officers and drove away. Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson took quick action after the shooting, stripping three officers who opened fire at O'Neal of their police powers and saying it appeared they had violated departmental policies. Chicago police officers tried to stop O'Neal about 7:30 p.m. July 28 in the South Shore neighborhood as he drove a Jaguar convertible reported stolen in suburban Bolingbrook, Ill., police said. Surveillance cameras tied O'Neal and three others to a spree of car thefts, officials in the suburb said. O'Neal struck two Chicago police vehicles in the sports car, and two officers fired at him while he was in the car, authorities said. O'Neal fled from the car, police said, and a third officer chased him behind a home. After O'Neal refused to stop, the officer shot him. O'Neal, who was unarmed, died of a gunshot wound to the back, authorities said. The city's quick moves after O'Neal's shooting show how much has changed in the eight months since the release of video of a white police officer shooting black 17-year-old Laquan McDonald 16 times. The officer who shot McDonald, Jason Van Dyke, is charged with murder. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chicago-officials-release-horrific-video-showing-events-leading-up-to-fatal-police-shooting-of-black-teenager/ar-BBviZ0Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Wildcat said: bad timing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 6, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 6, 2016 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: I can understand the cops being amped up, but the shooting was reckless especially when they were shooting at the car as it was heading towards a police SUV, they should have just chased the kid and knocked him around. The police chief jumped on this right away and has suspended the officers who broke the rules. Yeah when they were unloading on the car it looked pretty damn sketchy. Glad the CPD took quick action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: I can understand the cops being amped up, but the shooting was reckless especially when they were shooting at the car as it was heading towards a police SUV, they should have just chased the kid and knocked him around. The police chief jumped on this right away and has suspended the officers who broke the rules. Suspended with pay I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Just now, Biggie Smails said: Yeah when they were unloading on the car it looked pretty damn sketchy. Glad the CPD took quick action. I said this earlier when the one cop was coming around the corner shooting he was basically shooting at his buddy who was almost getting ran over. Than they both shot at the back of the car and also at the other office who was coming at him and they had a front end. Totally would not have done that but i dont know the extent of what happened when he actually got shot. Just like that video i posted Notice the cop in the back shoots him when he sees him reaching for his pistol. Shit might "look" like one thing but we dont know what happened when he was shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Cold War said: The video comes from the officers, they knew it was on tape. So they obviously thought they were well within their right to shoot. The cop who shot the kid turned off his body cam. 18 minutes ago, Cold War said: Well. We have sanctuary cities Why can't we have crime zones. These people do not want the police in their neighborhood or arresting anyone. I think at very least patrols should be stopped . Come only when called. It would certainly lower conflicts The neighborhood where that kid got shot is a middle class neighborhood, I'm sure the taxpaying residents would not be happy if they lost there police patrols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Wildcat said: I said this earlier when the one cop was coming around the corner shooting he was basically shooting at his buddy who was almost getting ran over. Than they both shot at the back of the car and also at the other office who was coming at him and they had a front end. Totally would not have done that but i dont know the extent of what happened when he actually got shot. Just like that video i posted Notice the cop in the back shoots him when he sees him reaching for his pistol. Shit might "look" like one thing but we dont know what happened when he was shot. I could not tell from the vid that he was reaching for a pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmk Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Biggie Smails said: While he did steal a car, nearly run over an officer and then slam into a patrol car but at the point does he as unarmed fleeing suspect deserve to be shot in the back and killed? Seems as if the officers were trigger happy and on the video you can hear them ask in confusion if the suspect shot at them....bad deal all the way around. http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/ The law considers a car as a weapon when used as force. I wasn't there so I'll what to have more of an opinion. Sometimes stupid people die by be to stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 If you willfully switch off your body cam at a time like that you should be fired and charged with obstruction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The cop who shot the kid turned off his body cam. The neighborhood where that kid got shot is a middle class neighborhood, I'm sure the taxpaying residents would not be happy if they lost there police patrols. If that is a middle class neighborhood than im fucking rich.. But seriously no one steals cars or hardly anything where i live people have mutual respect for reach others lives. We have jobs and houses and shit. Yes they want cops and should have them, but black on black violence and perpetuation of it is the issue. end of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 6, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rmk said: The law considers a car as a weapon when used as force. I wasn't there so I'll what to have more of an opinion. Sometimes stupid people die by be to stupid. According to what Vince posted they broke regulations by firing on the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: The cop who shot the kid turned off his body cam. The neighborhood where that kid got shot is a middle class neighborhood, I'm sure the taxpaying residents would not be happy if they lost there police patrols. Then how is there video of the guy getting shot? I wasn't referring to that neighborhood in particular. There are streets and neighborhoods that all the cops know as beyond help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Just now, f7ben said: If you willfully switch off your body cam at a time like that you should be fired and charged with obstruction Without question. I was talking to a black Chicago cop earlier this week and he told me that felt sorry for the white cops because they are walking on egg shells when arresting a black person, but this case here of shooting the kid in the back is bullshit, as the pursuer you have an advantage of seeing the person reach for a gun and then said person has to make a full turn to make a good shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Cold War said: Then how is there video of the guy getting shot? I wasn't referring to that neighborhood in particular. There are streets and neighborhoods that all the cops know as beyond help. other cops had their cameras on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, Wildcat said: If that is a middle class neighborhood than im fucking rich.. But seriously no one steals cars or hardly anything where i live people have mutual respect for reach others lives. We have jobs and houses and shit. Yes they want cops and should have them, but black on black violence and perpetuation of it is the issue. end of story. Large bungalows, nicely landscaped yards what did you see that would make you think otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: other cops had their cameras on. Can you post the video or has it already been posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cold War said: Can you post the video or has it already been posted? it's in the first post. But here. http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/ Just the one vid that I know of. Edited August 6, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Cold War said: Then how is there video of the guy getting shot? I wasn't referring to that neighborhood in particular. There are streets and neighborhoods that all the cops know as beyond help. I was at a site earlier this week that was the dividing line for the Gangster Disciples and the Vice Lords on the west side, it's the heart of the heroin highway, the west side of Chicago has always made me nervous but more so now than ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 6, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Large bungalows, nicely landscaped yards what did you see that would make you think otherwise? This wildcat guy is acting like he has some bonafides but he won't say what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: it's in the first post. But here. http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/ It says right in the video the fatal shooting was not recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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