ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Opps. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: For fuck sakes Fail, this is not a left or right thing. Even Trudeau's half brother gets it. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-trudeaus-half-brother-is-an-anti-vaxxer-bitcoin-entrepreneur-and-affectionate-critic-of-the-pm never once said it was Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuskokaGator 13 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 9:52 AM, irv said: It's amazing some still think the vaccines are working and are also advocating for the boosters. Bizzaro world! I think the following charts show precisely how they are working... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, MuskokaGator said: I think the following charts show precisely how they are working... IRV will just deny this as fake or say "see look at all the vaccinated in the hospital - He is very smart and sees things you can not understand. AC says 95% of all cases are vaccinated people according to his twitter feed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuskokaGator 13 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: IRV will just deny this as fake or say "see look at all the vaccinated in the hospital - He is very smart and sees things you can not understand. AC says 95% of all cases are vaccinated people according to his twitter feed It doesn't take brains to deny the obvious.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuskokaGator 13 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 12:02 PM, 1trailmaker said: I think Doug Ford is scrambling and for obvious reasons he is in way over his head, this isn't something he ever dreamed of dealing with. He probably sees this as something to combat his closures of businesses. The virus is mutating in people that can't fight it or fight it poorly, this can be helped with vaccines... It is literally the way POLIO was stopped as a travelling virus ( yes people still got polio that were vaccinated this is documented facts, no hidden agendas) One thing we see is how people react to a ONCE IN A LIFE TIME situation. Very interesting Your hatred of Doug is clouding your judgement. Ontario has approximately 40% of Canada's population but in almost every covid stat. that has been published we are contributing less than 40% (in some cases much less). Obviously Ontario is doing many of the right things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irv 5,628 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, MuskokaGator said: I think the following charts show precisely how they are working... 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: IRV will just deny this as fake or say "see look at all the vaccinated in the hospital - He is very smart and sees things you can not understand. AC says 95% of all cases are vaccinated people according to his twitter feed And you 2 clowns still believe the horseshit fed to you. Have you seen today's numbers?? 2120 cases in the FULLY VACCINATED and 778 in the unvaccinated. Now who in their right mind would still believe these vaccines work and still advocate for them? https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/148864 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, irv said: And you 2 clowns still believe the horseshit fed to you. Have you seen today's numbers?? 2120 cases in the FULLY VACCINATED and 778 in the unvaccinated. Now who in their right mind would still believe these vaccines work and still advocate for them? https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/148864 Irv, it would also be good to know out of the xxx number of tests performed, how many were vaxxed vs unvaxxed. We know the results are skewed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irv 5,628 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Irv, it would also be good to know out of the xxx number of tests performed, how many were vaxxed vs unvaxxed. We know the results are skewed. For sure they are. Numerous places are not even testing the fully vaxxed, only the unvaxxed. Everything that was promised to the vaxxed is now being taken away and pretty soon they will have the same amount of freedoms, again, as the unvaxxed who could see the light and knew what was coming. Still, though, I sure wish I had of got them for Trudeau and the country!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Here are the authors of the British Medical Journal in an open letter to Mark Zuckerfuck, regarding Fakebooks bogus fact checking. I know what side I took when this came out and I know what side the blissful ignorant took. Facebook recently had to admit in court, there factcheck is anything but that. Open letter from The BMJ to Mark Zuckerberg Dear Mark Zuckerberg, We are Fiona Godlee and Kamran Abbasi, editors of The BMJ, one of the world’s oldest and most influential general medical journals. We are writing to raise serious concerns about the “fact checking” being undertaken by third party providers on behalf of Facebook/Meta. In September, a former employee of Ventavia, a contract research company helping carry out the main Pfizer covid-19 vaccine trial, began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails. These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites. The BMJ commissioned an investigative reporter to write up the story for our journal. The article was published on 2 November, following legal review, external peer review and subject to The BMJ’s usual high level editorial oversight and review.[1] But from November 10, readers began reporting a variety of problems when trying to share our article. Some reported being unable to share it. Many others reported having their posts flagged with a warning about “Missing context ... Independent fact-checkers say this information could mislead people.” Those trying to post the article were informed by Facebook that people who repeatedly share “false information” might have their posts moved lower in Facebook’s News Feed. Group administrators where the article was shared received messages from Facebook informing them that such posts were “partly false.” Readers were directed to a “fact check” performed by a Facebook contractor named Lead Stories.[2] We find the “fact check” performed by Lead Stories to be inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible. -- It fails to provide any assertions of fact that The BMJ article got wrong -- It has a nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials” -- The first paragraph inaccurately labels The BMJ a “news blog” -- It contains a screenshot of our article with a stamp over it stating “Flaws Reviewed,” despite the Lead Stories article not identifying anything false or untrue in The BMJ article -- It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert” We have contacted Lead Stories, but they refuse to change anything about their article or actions that have led to Facebook flagging our article. We have also contacted Facebook directly, requesting immediate removal of the “fact checking” label and any link to the Lead Stories article, thereby allowing our readers to freely share the article on your platform. There is also a wider concern that we wish to raise. We are aware that The BMJ is not the only high quality information provider to have been affected by the incompetence of Meta’s fact checking regime. To give one other example, we would highlight the treatment by Instagram (also owned by Meta) of Cochrane, the international provider of high quality systematic reviews of the medical evidence.[3] Rather than investing a proportion of Meta’s substantial profits to help ensure the accuracy of medical information shared through social media, you have apparently delegated responsibility to people incompetent in carrying out this crucial task. Fact checking has been a staple of good journalism for decades. What has happened in this instance should be of concern to anyone who values and relies on sources such as The BMJ. We hope you will act swiftly: specifically to correct the error relating to The BMJ’s article and to review the processes that led to the error; and generally to reconsider your investment in and approach to fact checking overall. Best wishes, Fiona Godlee, editor in chief Kamran Abbasi, incoming editor in chief The BMJ Competing interests: As current and incoming editors in chief, we are responsible for everything The BMJ contains. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MuskokaGator said: It doesn't take brains to deny the obvious.... It doesn't, with over 90% vaxxination in Ontario and we have had more death this year than last when we had zero vaxxinated. Thats what happens when you remove the bullshit filters. This is repeated worldwide in countries with very high vaxx uptakes. We are also not including adverse side effects, in these numbers. ie with 20000 deaths (USA only) reported in vaers, a system where at most 5% is reported, the real calculated number is closer to 400K. You mean that kind of obvious? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, MuskokaGator said: Your hatred of Doug is clouding your judgement. Ontario has approximately 40% of Canada's population but in almost every covid stat. that has been published we are contributing less than 40% (in some cases much less). Obviously Ontario is doing many of the right things. ? Doug has done a fine job? who has said different? And I am the one that points out Ontario is doing better than the rest of Canada - IRV and AC think Trudeau is doing all of this for some strange reason. carry on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Here are the authors of the British Medical Journal in an open letter to Mark Zuckerfuck, regarding Fakebooks bogus fact checking. I know what side I took when this came out and I know what side the blissful ignorant took. Facebook recently had to admit in court, there factcheck is anything but that. Open letter from The BMJ to Mark Zuckerberg Dear Mark Zuckerberg, We are Fiona Godlee and Kamran Abbasi, editors of The BMJ, one of the world’s oldest and most influential general medical journals. We are writing to raise serious concerns about the “fact checking” being undertaken by third party providers on behalf of Facebook/Meta. In September, a former employee of Ventavia, a contract research company helping carry out the main Pfizer covid-19 vaccine trial, began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails. These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites. The BMJ commissioned an investigative reporter to write up the story for our journal. The article was published on 2 November, following legal review, external peer review and subject to The BMJ’s usual high level editorial oversight and review.[1] But from November 10, readers began reporting a variety of problems when trying to share our article. Some reported being unable to share it. Many others reported having their posts flagged with a warning about “Missing context ... Independent fact-checkers say this information could mislead people.” Those trying to post the article were informed by Facebook that people who repeatedly share “false information” might have their posts moved lower in Facebook’s News Feed. Group administrators where the article was shared received messages from Facebook informing them that such posts were “partly false.” Readers were directed to a “fact check” performed by a Facebook contractor named Lead Stories.[2] We find the “fact check” performed by Lead Stories to be inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible. -- It fails to provide any assertions of fact that The BMJ article got wrong -- It has a nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials” -- The first paragraph inaccurately labels The BMJ a “news blog” -- It contains a screenshot of our article with a stamp over it stating “Flaws Reviewed,” despite the Lead Stories article not identifying anything false or untrue in The BMJ article -- It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert” We have contacted Lead Stories, but they refuse to change anything about their article or actions that have led to Facebook flagging our article. We have also contacted Facebook directly, requesting immediate removal of the “fact checking” label and any link to the Lead Stories article, thereby allowing our readers to freely share the article on your platform. There is also a wider concern that we wish to raise. We are aware that The BMJ is not the only high quality information provider to have been affected by the incompetence of Meta’s fact checking regime. To give one other example, we would highlight the treatment by Instagram (also owned by Meta) of Cochrane, the international provider of high quality systematic reviews of the medical evidence.[3] Rather than investing a proportion of Meta’s substantial profits to help ensure the accuracy of medical information shared through social media, you have apparently delegated responsibility to people incompetent in carrying out this crucial task. Fact checking has been a staple of good journalism for decades. What has happened in this instance should be of concern to anyone who values and relies on sources such as The BMJ. We hope you will act swiftly: specifically to correct the error relating to The BMJ’s article and to review the processes that led to the error; and generally to reconsider your investment in and approach to fact checking overall. Best wishes, Fiona Godlee, editor in chief Kamran Abbasi, incoming editor in chief The BMJ Competing interests: As current and incoming editors in chief, we are responsible for everything The BMJ contains. When people like yourself use FaceBook and Twitter for their info they run into problems.. Maybe try another source otther than meme's on facebook Just a thought, maybe you would look so uneducated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: It doesn't, with over 90% vaxxination in Ontario and we have had more death this year than last when we had zero vaxxinated. Thats what happens when you remove the bullshit filters. NO WE HAVEN'T STOP SAYING THIS, FUCK ARE YOU NOT SMART. THERE HAS ONLY BEEN 3000 DEATHS SINCE VACCINATION COMPARED TO 26000 PRIOR, HOLY FUCK YOUR MEME'S ARE WAY OFF - I GAVE YOU THE LINK TO OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: When people like yourself use FaceBook and Twitter for their info they run into problems.. Maybe try another source otther than meme's on facebook Just a thought, maybe you would look so uneducated OK. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXKeXMNDJbD/?utm_medium=copy_link Edited December 17, 2021 by ArcticCrusher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: OK. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXKeXMNDJbD/?utm_medium=copy_link stick with lying about the deaths of vaccinated people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: stick with lying about the deaths of vaccinated people If the total deaths are up, how is that lying. Take your blinders off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Watch this video and let me know who you stand behind. My support is not in question. For those who have no clue, it's all related. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 So where do you stand people? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Is this fake or real? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 13,997 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 The Maga kid reached a verdict re NBC lawsuit He won a huge settlement, but you wouldn't know it. You fake news news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuskokaGator 13 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: ? Doug has done a fine job? who has said different? And I am the one that points out Ontario is doing better than the rest of Canada - IRV and AC think Trudeau is doing all of this for some strange reason. carry on The first sentences in your post say it... I think Doug Ford is scrambling and for obvious reasons he is in way over his head, this isn't something he ever dreamed of dealing with. He probably sees this as something to combat his closures of businesses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 11:42 AM, toslow said: If that’s the case then they shouldn’t be telling people to get the booster shot. No need for right? 8 minutes ago, MuskokaGator said: The first sentences in your post say it... I think Doug Ford is scrambling and for obvious reasons he is in way over his head, this isn't something he ever dreamed of dealing with. He probably sees this as something to combat his closures of businesses. in was in answer to the stupid question above There is no play book for this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 7 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Watch this video and let me know who you stand behind. My support is not in question. For those who have no clue, it's all related. changed her pronouns come AC WTF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,829 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Is this fake or real? wow AC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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