ActionfigureJoe Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 All red states. Cool https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: All red states. Cool https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/ Yeah...freaking crackers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted December 29, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 29, 2017 Cities with the Highest Rates of Total Gun-Related Deaths (per 100,000 people) Rank City City Rate Metro Rate City/Metro Ratio 1 New Orleans 69.1 32.8 2.1 2 Detroit 41.4 14.8 2.8 3 Las Vegas 36.9 17.6 2.1 4 Miami 33.5 11.7 2.9 5 Baltimore 33.1 15.2 2.2 6 St. Louis 31.1 14.0 2.2 7 Richmond 29.9 15.7 1.9 8 Memphis 25.5 19.8 1.3 9 Cleveland 25.2 10.9 2.3 10 Philadelphia 24.3 12.4 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted December 29, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 29, 2017 Here is the complete list of the cities, along with each city's homicide numbers: 1. Chicago: 500 Murders 2. New York City: 419 Murders 3. Detroit: 386 Murders 4. Philadelphia: 331 Murders 5. Los Angeles: 299 Murders 6. Baltimore: 219 Murders 7. Houston: 217 Murders 8. New Orleans: 193 Murders 9. Dallas: 154 murders 10. Memphis: 133 murders 11. Oakland: 126 murders 12. Phoenix: 124 murders 13. St. Louis: 113 murders 14. Kansas City: 105 murders 15. Indianapolis: 101 Murders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Cities with the Highest Rates of Total Gun-Related Deaths (per 100,000 people) Rank City City Rate Metro Rate City/Metro Ratio 1 New Orleans 69.1 32.8 2.1 2 Detroit 41.4 14.8 2.8 3 Las Vegas 36.9 17.6 2.1 4 Miami 33.5 11.7 2.9 5 Baltimore 33.1 15.2 2.2 6 St. Louis 31.1 14.0 2.2 7 Richmond 29.9 15.7 1.9 8 Memphis 25.5 19.8 1.3 9 Cleveland 25.2 10.9 2.3 10 Philadelphia 24.3 12.4 2.0 This may be racist. Or, are you saying that large population areas with democrat leadership are maybe to blame? Both? Don't answer....I want you to be able to keep baking cakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XCR1250 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year Year Deaths Vehicle miles travelled (billions) Fatalities per 100 million VMT Population Fatalities per 100,000 population Change (in percent) 1899 26[5] 1900 36 76,094,000 0.047 NA 1901 54 77,584,000 0.070 47.12% 1902 79 79,163,000 0.100 43.38% 1903 117 80,632,000 0.145 45.40% 1904 172 82,166,000 0.209 44.26% 1905 252 83,822,000 0.301 43.62% 1906 338 85,450,000 0.396 31.57% 1907 581 87,008,000 0.668 68.82% 1908 751 88,710,000 0.847 26.78% 1909 1,174 90,490,000 1.297 53.25% 1910 1,599 92,407,000 1.730 33.38% 1911 2,043 93,863,000 2.177 25.79% 1912 2,968 95,335,000 3.113 43.03% 1913 4,079 97,225,000 4.195 34.76% 1914 4,468 99,111,000 4.508 7.45% 1915 6,779 100,546,000 6.742 49.56% 1916 7,766 101,961,000 7.617 12.97% 1917 9,630 103,268,000 9.325 22.43% 1918 10,390 103,208,000 10.067 7.95% 1919 10,896 104,514,000 10.425 3.56% 1920 12,155 106,461,000 11.417 9.51% 1921 13,253 55.03 24.09 108,538,000 12.210 6.95% 1922 14,859 67.70 21.95 110,049,000 13.502 10.58% 1923 17,870 85.00 21.03 111,947,000 15.963 18.22% 1924 18,400 104.84 17.55 114,109,000 16.125 1.01% 1925 20,771 122.35 16.98 115,829,000 17.932 11.21% 1926 22,194 140.74 15.77 117,397,000 18.905 5.42% 1927 24,470 158.45 15.44 119,035,000 20.557 8.74% 1928 26,557 172.86 15.36 120,509,000 22.037 7.20% 1929 29,592 197.72 14.97 121,767,000 24.302 10.28% 1930 31,204 206.32 15.12 123,076,741 25.353 4.33% 1931 31,963 216.15 14.79 124,039,648 25.768 1.64% 1932 27,979 200.52 13.95 124,840,471 22.412 -13.03% 1933 29,746 200.64 14.83 125,578,763 23.687 5.69% 1934 34,240 215.56 15.88 126,373,773 27.094 14.38% 1935 34,494 228.57 15.09 127,250,232 27.107 0.05% 1936 36,126 252.13 14.33 128,053,180 28.212 4.07% 1937 37,819 270.11 14.00 128,824,829 29.357 4.06% 1938 31,083 271.18 11.46 129,824,939 23.942 -18.44% 1939 30,895 285.40 10.83 130,879,718 23.606 -1.41% 1940 32,914 302.19 10.89 132,122,446 24.912 5.53% 1941 38,142 333.61 11.43 133,402,471 28.592 14.77% 1942 27,007 268.22 10.07 134,859,553 20.026 -29.96% 1943 22,727 208.19 10.92 136,739,353 16.621 -17.00% 1944 23,165 212.71 10.89 138,397,345 16.738 0.71% 1945 26,785 250.17 10.71 139,928,165 19.142 14.36% 1946 31,874 340.88 9.35 141,388,566 22.544 17.77% 1947 31,193 370.89 8.41 144,126,071 21.643 -4.00% 1948 30,775 397.96 7.73 146,631,302 20.988 -3.03% 1949 30,246 424.46 7.13 149,188,130 20.274 -3.40% 1950 33,186 458.25 7.24 152,271,417 21.794 7.50% 1951 35,309 491.09 7.19 154,877,889 22.798 4.61% 1952 36,088 513.58 7.03 157,552,740 22.905 0.47% 1953 36,190 544.43 6.65 160,184,192 22.593 -1.36% 1954 33,890 561.96 6.03 163,025,854 20.788 -7.99% 1955 36,688 605.65 6.06 165,931,202 22.110 6.36% 1956 37,965 627.84 6.05 168,903,031 22.477 1.66% 1957 36,932 647.00 5.71 171,984,130 21.474 -4.46% 1958 35,331 664.65 5.32 174,881,904 20.203 -5.92% 1959 36,223 700.48 5.17 177,829,628 20.369 0.83% 1960 36,399 718.76 5.06 180,671,158 20.147 -1.09% 1961 36,285 737.42 4.92 183,691,481 19.753 -1.95% 1962 38,980 766.73 5.08 186,537,737 20.897 5.79% 1963 41,723 805.25 5.18 189,241,798 22.047 5.51% 1964 45,645 846.30 5.39 191,888,791 23.787 7.89% 1965 47,089 887.81 5.30 194,302,963 24.235 1.88% 1966 50,894 925.90 5.50 196,560,338 25.892 6.84% 1967 50,724 964.01 5.26 198,712,056 25.526 -1.41% 1968 52,725 1,015.87 5.19 200,706,052 26.270 2.91% 1969 53,543 1,061.79 5.04 202,676,946 26.418 0.56% 1970 52,627 1,109.72 4.74 205,052,174 25.665 -2.85% 1971 52,542 1,178.81 4.46 207,660,677 25.302 -1.42% 1972 54,589 1,259.79 4.33 209,896,021 26.008 2.79% 1973 54,052 1,313.11 4.12 211,908,788 25.507 -1.92% 1974 45,196 1,280.54 3.53 213,853,928 21.134 -17.14% 1975 44,525 1,327.66 3.35 215,973,199 20.616 -2.45% 1976 45,523 1,402.38 3.25 218,035,164 20.879 1.27% 1977 47,878 1,467.03 3.26 220,239,425 21.739 4.12% 1978 50,331 1,544.70 3.26 222,584,545 22.612 4.02% 1979 51,093 1,529.13 3.34 225,055,487 22.702 0.40% 1980 51,091 1,527.30 3.35 227,224,681 22.485 -0.96% 1981 49,301 1,552.80 3.18 229,465,714 21.485 -4.45% 1982 43,945 1,595.01 2.76 231,664,458 18.969 -11.71% 1983 42,589 1,652.79 2.58 233,791,994 18.217 -3.97% 1984 44,257 1,720.27 2.57 235,824,902 18.767 3.02% 1985 43,825 1,774.18 2.47 237,923,795 18.420 -1.85% 1986 46,087 1,834.87 2.51 240,132,887 19.192 4.19% 1987 46,390 1,921.20 2.42 242,288,918 19.147 -0.24% 1988 47,087 2,025.96 2.32 244,498,982 19.259 0.58% 1989 45,582 2,096.46 2.17 246,819,230 18.468 -4.11% 1990 44,599 2,144.36 2.08 249,464,396 17.878 -3.19% 1991 41,508 2,172.05 1.91 252,153,092 16.461 -7.92% 1992 39,250 2,247.15 1.75 255,029,699 15.390 -6.51% 1993 40,150 2,296.38 1.75 257,782,608 15.575 1.20% 1994 40,716 2,358 1.73 260,327,021 15.6403 0.42% 1995 41,817 2,423 1.73 262,803,276 15.9119 1.74% 1996 42,065 2,486 1.69 265,228,572 15.8599 -0.33% 1997 42,013 2,562 1.64 267,783,607 15.6892 -1.08% 1998 41,501 2,632 1.58 270,248,003 15.3566 -2.12% 1999 41,717 2,691 1.55 272,690,813 15.2983 -0.38% 2000 41,945 2,747 1.53 282,216,952 14.8627 -2.85% 2001[2] 42,196 2,797 1.51 285,226,284 14.794 -0.46% 2002 43,005 2,856 1.51 288,125,973 14.926 0.89% 2003 42,884 2,890 1.48 290,796,023 14.747 -1.75% 2004 42,836 2,965 1.44 293,638,158 14.588 -0.52% 2005 43,510 2,989 1.46 296,507,061 14.674 0.44% 2006 42,708 3,014 1.42 299,398,484 14.265 -2.79% 2007 41,259 3,031 1.36 301,139,947 13.701 -3.85% 2008 37,423 2,977 1.26 303,824,640 12.317 -11.0% 2009 33,883 2,957 1.15 306,700,000 11.048 -9.7% 2010[2] 32,999 2,967 1.11 309,326,000 10.668 -3.5% 2011[6] 32,479 2,950 1.10 311,588,000 10.42 -2.3% 2012[7] 33,782 2,969 1.14 313,914,000 10.75 2.6% 2013 32,893 2,988 1.10 316,129,000 10.40 -3.3% 2014 32,744 3,026 1.08 318,860,000 10.28 -0.9% 2015 35,485 3,095 1.15 321,370,000 11.06 10.5% 2016 37,461 1.18 323,121,000 11.59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Good grief. I think I should be scared of Rigid right now...this was an EPIC beatdown. A smash in the face following a pants down spanking in a crowded supermarket!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) This is the kind of nonsense that kills the Dem party with voters, other than coast Liberals. Trying to make the gun problem about responsible gun owners. Everyone knows what the problem is other than liberals and the media. Edited December 29, 2017 by Cold War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Really need to take suicide out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year Year Deaths Vehicle miles travelled (billions) Fatalities per 100 million VMT Population Fatalities per 100,000 population Change (in percent) 1899 26[5] 1900 36 76,094,000 0.047 NA 1901 54 77,584,000 0.070 47.12% 1902 79 79,163,000 0.100 43.38% 1903 117 80,632,000 0.145 45.40% 1904 172 82,166,000 0.209 44.26% 1905 252 83,822,000 0.301 43.62% 1906 338 85,450,000 0.396 31.57% 1907 581 87,008,000 0.668 68.82% 1908 751 88,710,000 0.847 26.78% 1909 1,174 90,490,000 1.297 53.25% 1910 1,599 92,407,000 1.730 33.38% 1911 2,043 93,863,000 2.177 25.79% 1912 2,968 95,335,000 3.113 43.03% 1913 4,079 97,225,000 4.195 34.76% 1914 4,468 99,111,000 4.508 7.45% 1915 6,779 100,546,000 6.742 49.56% 1916 7,766 101,961,000 7.617 12.97% 1917 9,630 103,268,000 9.325 22.43% 1918 10,390 103,208,000 10.067 7.95% 1919 10,896 104,514,000 10.425 3.56% 1920 12,155 106,461,000 11.417 9.51% 1921 13,253 55.03 24.09 108,538,000 12.210 6.95% 1922 14,859 67.70 21.95 110,049,000 13.502 10.58% 1923 17,870 85.00 21.03 111,947,000 15.963 18.22% 1924 18,400 104.84 17.55 114,109,000 16.125 1.01% 1925 20,771 122.35 16.98 115,829,000 17.932 11.21% 1926 22,194 140.74 15.77 117,397,000 18.905 5.42% 1927 24,470 158.45 15.44 119,035,000 20.557 8.74% 1928 26,557 172.86 15.36 120,509,000 22.037 7.20% 1929 29,592 197.72 14.97 121,767,000 24.302 10.28% 1930 31,204 206.32 15.12 123,076,741 25.353 4.33% 1931 31,963 216.15 14.79 124,039,648 25.768 1.64% 1932 27,979 200.52 13.95 124,840,471 22.412 -13.03% 1933 29,746 200.64 14.83 125,578,763 23.687 5.69% 1934 34,240 215.56 15.88 126,373,773 27.094 14.38% 1935 34,494 228.57 15.09 127,250,232 27.107 0.05% 1936 36,126 252.13 14.33 128,053,180 28.212 4.07% 1937 37,819 270.11 14.00 128,824,829 29.357 4.06% 1938 31,083 271.18 11.46 129,824,939 23.942 -18.44% 1939 30,895 285.40 10.83 130,879,718 23.606 -1.41% 1940 32,914 302.19 10.89 132,122,446 24.912 5.53% 1941 38,142 333.61 11.43 133,402,471 28.592 14.77% 1942 27,007 268.22 10.07 134,859,553 20.026 -29.96% 1943 22,727 208.19 10.92 136,739,353 16.621 -17.00% 1944 23,165 212.71 10.89 138,397,345 16.738 0.71% 1945 26,785 250.17 10.71 139,928,165 19.142 14.36% 1946 31,874 340.88 9.35 141,388,566 22.544 17.77% 1947 31,193 370.89 8.41 144,126,071 21.643 -4.00% 1948 30,775 397.96 7.73 146,631,302 20.988 -3.03% 1949 30,246 424.46 7.13 149,188,130 20.274 -3.40% 1950 33,186 458.25 7.24 152,271,417 21.794 7.50% 1951 35,309 491.09 7.19 154,877,889 22.798 4.61% 1952 36,088 513.58 7.03 157,552,740 22.905 0.47% 1953 36,190 544.43 6.65 160,184,192 22.593 -1.36% 1954 33,890 561.96 6.03 163,025,854 20.788 -7.99% 1955 36,688 605.65 6.06 165,931,202 22.110 6.36% 1956 37,965 627.84 6.05 168,903,031 22.477 1.66% 1957 36,932 647.00 5.71 171,984,130 21.474 -4.46% 1958 35,331 664.65 5.32 174,881,904 20.203 -5.92% 1959 36,223 700.48 5.17 177,829,628 20.369 0.83% 1960 36,399 718.76 5.06 180,671,158 20.147 -1.09% 1961 36,285 737.42 4.92 183,691,481 19.753 -1.95% 1962 38,980 766.73 5.08 186,537,737 20.897 5.79% 1963 41,723 805.25 5.18 189,241,798 22.047 5.51% 1964 45,645 846.30 5.39 191,888,791 23.787 7.89% 1965 47,089 887.81 5.30 194,302,963 24.235 1.88% 1966 50,894 925.90 5.50 196,560,338 25.892 6.84% 1967 50,724 964.01 5.26 198,712,056 25.526 -1.41% 1968 52,725 1,015.87 5.19 200,706,052 26.270 2.91% 1969 53,543 1,061.79 5.04 202,676,946 26.418 0.56% 1970 52,627 1,109.72 4.74 205,052,174 25.665 -2.85% 1971 52,542 1,178.81 4.46 207,660,677 25.302 -1.42% 1972 54,589 1,259.79 4.33 209,896,021 26.008 2.79% 1973 54,052 1,313.11 4.12 211,908,788 25.507 -1.92% 1974 45,196 1,280.54 3.53 213,853,928 21.134 -17.14% 1975 44,525 1,327.66 3.35 215,973,199 20.616 -2.45% 1976 45,523 1,402.38 3.25 218,035,164 20.879 1.27% 1977 47,878 1,467.03 3.26 220,239,425 21.739 4.12% 1978 50,331 1,544.70 3.26 222,584,545 22.612 4.02% 1979 51,093 1,529.13 3.34 225,055,487 22.702 0.40% 1980 51,091 1,527.30 3.35 227,224,681 22.485 -0.96% 1981 49,301 1,552.80 3.18 229,465,714 21.485 -4.45% 1982 43,945 1,595.01 2.76 231,664,458 18.969 -11.71% 1983 42,589 1,652.79 2.58 233,791,994 18.217 -3.97% 1984 44,257 1,720.27 2.57 235,824,902 18.767 3.02% 1985 43,825 1,774.18 2.47 237,923,795 18.420 -1.85% 1986 46,087 1,834.87 2.51 240,132,887 19.192 4.19% 1987 46,390 1,921.20 2.42 242,288,918 19.147 -0.24% 1988 47,087 2,025.96 2.32 244,498,982 19.259 0.58% 1989 45,582 2,096.46 2.17 246,819,230 18.468 -4.11% 1990 44,599 2,144.36 2.08 249,464,396 17.878 -3.19% 1991 41,508 2,172.05 1.91 252,153,092 16.461 -7.92% 1992 39,250 2,247.15 1.75 255,029,699 15.390 -6.51% 1993 40,150 2,296.38 1.75 257,782,608 15.575 1.20% 1994 40,716 2,358 1.73 260,327,021 15.6403 0.42% 1995 41,817 2,423 1.73 262,803,276 15.9119 1.74% 1996 42,065 2,486 1.69 265,228,572 15.8599 -0.33% 1997 42,013 2,562 1.64 267,783,607 15.6892 -1.08% 1998 41,501 2,632 1.58 270,248,003 15.3566 -2.12% 1999 41,717 2,691 1.55 272,690,813 15.2983 -0.38% 2000 41,945 2,747 1.53 282,216,952 14.8627 -2.85% 2001[2] 42,196 2,797 1.51 285,226,284 14.794 -0.46% 2002 43,005 2,856 1.51 288,125,973 14.926 0.89% 2003 42,884 2,890 1.48 290,796,023 14.747 -1.75% 2004 42,836 2,965 1.44 293,638,158 14.588 -0.52% 2005 43,510 2,989 1.46 296,507,061 14.674 0.44% 2006 42,708 3,014 1.42 299,398,484 14.265 -2.79% 2007 41,259 3,031 1.36 301,139,947 13.701 -3.85% 2008 37,423 2,977 1.26 303,824,640 12.317 -11.0% 2009 33,883 2,957 1.15 306,700,000 11.048 -9.7% 2010[2] 32,999 2,967 1.11 309,326,000 10.668 -3.5% 2011[6] 32,479 2,950 1.10 311,588,000 10.42 -2.3% 2012[7] 33,782 2,969 1.14 313,914,000 10.75 2.6% 2013 32,893 2,988 1.10 316,129,000 10.40 -3.3% 2014 32,744 3,026 1.08 318,860,000 10.28 -0.9% 2015 35,485 3,095 1.15 321,370,000 11.06 10.5% 2016 37,461 1.18 323,121,000 11.59 I wish this would include the average price per gallon of gas in each year as well. 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Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 29, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: All red states. Cool https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/ And they are going to get redder if their black residents keep killing each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 29, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 29, 2017 36 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: This is obviously incorrect. It shows NH as a higher crime state. We have the lowest crime rate in the country. The lowest child poverty rate. The lowest teen pregnancy rate. The highest per capita income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 And what stands out in every state on the list..... NO PERMIT REQUIRED! Safety training must be a law in every state....period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: And what stands out in every state on the list..... NO PERMIT REQUIRED! Safety training must be a law in every state....period. Excellent. Just Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Really need to take suicide out. Access to firearms makes suicide more likely. Many suicides are impulsive acts that require a quick means in order to complete the act. With suicide intervention the first question asked is about the availability of firearms to the person or family member. It’s relevant to the statistic of gun deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: Access to firearms makes suicide more likely. Many suicides are impulsive acts that require a quick means in order to complete the act. With suicide intervention the first question asked is about the availability of firearms to the person or family member. It’s relevant to the statistic of gun deaths. I actually agree with you. And I'm not sure if I hate you or XLT more for that. Although, that still doesn't point the finger at anything other than the real problem concerning gun violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: And what stands out in every state on the list..... NO PERMIT REQUIRED! Safety training must be a law in every state....period. I’ve seen no evidence that firearm safety classes have a meaningful effect on gun deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I actually agree with you. And I'm not sure if I hate you or XLT more for that. Although, that still doesn't point the finger at anything other than the real problem concerning gun violence. Most guns sold today are to idiots. They buy on impulse for protection, only to sell the firearm a few months or years later. My issue is how cheap an illegal pistol can be purchased because of the flood of firearms into society. There’s also straw purchases and gun show trade. Given the fact that America is safer than its ever been, the massive sale of guns for protection isn’t warranted. Over Christmas weekend I said that the murder and crime rate in America is at near record lows. Of course everyone looked at me like I was nuts. So I suggested they look up the stats. Lots of stunned faces were the result. Personally I’ve always had a love affair with guns. I was raised in a rural setting and they were regularly displayed and used. Hunting, target practice, etc. my dad had me in sub-sonic pistol competition at the age of 12. Regardless, I find the American obsession with firearms dangerous to future of gun ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I actually agree with you. And I'm not sure if I hate you or XLT more for that. Although, that still doesn't point the finger at anything other than the real problem concerning gun violence. I. Hate. You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 41 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: I’ve seen no evidence that firearm safety classes have a meaningful effect on gun deaths. The thread you started shows that evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 45 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Most guns sold today are to idiots. They buy on impulse for protection, only to sell the firearm a few months or years later. My issue is how cheap an illegal pistol can be purchased because of the flood of firearms into society. There’s also straw purchases and gun show trade. Given the fact that America is safer than its ever been, the massive sale of guns for protection isn’t warranted. Over Christmas weekend I said that the murder and crime rate in America is at near record lows. Of course everyone looked at me like I was nuts. So I suggested they look up the stats. Lots of stunned faces were the result. Personally I’ve always had a love affair with guns. I was raised in a rural setting and they were regularly displayed and used. Hunting, target practice, etc. my dad had me in sub-sonic pistol competition at the age of 12. Regardless, I find the American obsession with firearms dangerous to future of gun ownership. My personal experience is that none of that is true. not saying it doesn't happen. The people that I know who have bought guns in the past few years have done a lot of research and still own the guns they bought. The second paragraph sounds very liberal. Its fine for me and I am not the problem...........Its every one else! Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The thread you started shows that evidence. Anecdotal at best. I’ve seen no study that links gun safety to a drop in gun violence. I don’t see how they’re remotely connected. It’s more a feel good measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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