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The reputable guys that used to do deletes around here quit playing that game. Who knows, maybe the penalty structure will change again and those guys will get back into the game? The sensor debacle was a nightmare. I wonder if some are still searching? I passed two doing about ten mph on the shoulder this week. There is a side to the gov juice shortage that we might want to be worried about. Urea gets used for some things we like to eat. The other side of the shortage is that urea is a byproduct of things we like to use for heat. A shortage on urea means a lot more than how many trucks move down the road. I'm telling you, those guys with the red hammer and sickle don't play nice. This one is going to get ugly. Sadly, I've only seen short term strategy decisions.

Certainly is a nice looking curve. They do tend get numbers that are on the optimistic side. I honestly don't care as long as they are consistently the same. That powerband should be damn forgiving and easy to ride. Clutch tweaking wouldn't take much work either. Not bad for a 2S with that much power. With all that said, how well do you think they'll hold together?

I do like some of the good GORETEX stuff. I was shooting the bull with N.K. a few years ago and he had a Klim jacket I'd never seen. I asked about the jacket. He said they gave it to him and wanted his thoughts. I asked him what was the verdict? In his typical mellow style he said: "It's OK, but only good for about 25,000 miles." Said it was his second one and pointed out where the fabric was fraying from wind on the back of each shoulder. I guess if he had been riding an Axys, I would have called his b.s. and accused him of tipping over and falling off the sled.

It seems like a good idea on their part if they want to be the "go to" app for navigation. Trails change often and current info is golden. The best app will need the latest updates and who better than the clubs that create the path. A good usable app will add value to the hardware. It's a whole lot easier to upsell the gauge with mapping that actually works.

Grease them each season and check temps by hand while the gas is filling. The simple stuff should cover it for most normal use. Galvanic corrosion isn't anything new. Just be aware of those contact points. One disadvantage of "cheap" snowmobile trailers is their basic design/building process. The cheap stuff isn't really designed to be used hard and long. Even the good stuff is built cheaper now because nobody wants to pay for premium construction. BTW, I'm surprised no one mentioned the video. I laughed my ass off.

I love how these rumors go and go. It is good entertainment. In my world talk is cheap after the laughing is done. The stuff that people are complaining about aren't even issues with a little tuning. But . . . there are issues you can't tune out of the design. I would be shocked if we saw anything based on the current mills.

I hear you about trying to protect a new pour. I haven't used that style. I like the concept, but I can see where those tips would dig into the ski. I wonder if you could modify them to use something like the caliber rubber tips? The tips do need some grip so they don't just let the ski slide. It would be a bummer to give up on them. They are built better than the plastic versions. The ski sliding issue is something to keep in mind if you do come up with a modification. I use steerable dollies with those little cables that hook around the spindle. If I do not use the cables, the ski will "drive" right off the dolly. That works to my advantage for my situation. When loading at home, I ride the sled to the ramp and drive right out of the dollies. It works pretty slick for that purpose. The dollies stop dead at the bottom of the ramp and the floor has no marks.

Kinda spendy tow based on the picture. Wonder what they charge up there? We had a tractor trailer full of grain do a light roll. It cost over 12k to flip that back on it's feet. No rotator was involved.

I'm surprised no one picked up on that in this discussion. I know a few hard core guys that bought a pile of those things just to play. It's almost ironic. They have plenty of big boy sleds and a bunch of goodies nailed on them. We're talking air adders, belt drives, and composite frames etc. Big bucks. . . and proto products to beat on all day.

Wow!

No oddball temps and definitely no snow ingestion with mine. Those guys that had lean issues fought a combination of bad clutching for the riding and bad riding for the clutching. The lean spot was already there on the '20 sleds, but nobody hung around those rpms. Clutching put you at super slow speeds. Some of the '21 slds had injectors go, but those were rare. I watch temps like a hawk. I went through years of fighting the cooling battle and this sled ran pretty good. I even dug back through the data afterword just to see if I missed a temp spike. Snow ingestion, no way. Ran lead all day trail riding with bluebird skies. Only snow dust would have been passing sleds. Happened at the end of 190 mile run with only stops being gas. I honestly think mine just got tired and gave up. It does concern me a bit. It's not my first one. I also clutched this one down from stock to ease some stress on the motor. Out of the box, it loved to top 8,300 rpm. Parts start flying pretty early if you do that all day long. I may have a slight medical condition too. I'm thinking about going to see the Doc. Something seems to be wrong with my right thumb causing it to clamp down.

It's getting a new engine. But, here's where it gets messy. The top end was shipped and installed. They found the case issues after it was all together and finally had a chance to fire the engine. Maybe a little more diligence on the initial tear down? Hard to say what they would have found. It's not my first rodeo with a motor going down. I shut it down before it locked up, but I knew it had a coolant leak. That was a big concern and the mechanic thought it was coming from a head gasket. Pistons and jugs were pretty bad, it may have been possible. I think there is a bit of irony with shutting it down right away. Pretty sure there would have been little question about the bottom end with one more hard pull. Good question about the reflash. I've had other sleds in the shop right when advisories came out. They typically don't send them back out without an update. This time might be handled differently. Sounds like it is aimed at sleds that are having issues early. This one ran pretty good for 2,500 miles. I would be hard pressed to say it has mapping issues. The '22 arrived early in Oct. Have not seen the exact build date. Reflash or not, it will get a good shakedown run to see how it runs.

Still waiting on parts. It is partially due to dealer screw up now. The top end parts arrived, but they found more issues when they threw it back together. PTO side main started failing and cracked the case. Crappy deal overall because the dealer should have just ordered a whole motor in the first place. I get pissed just thinking about the process and time wasted. I can't entirely blame the manufacturer, but their delays on the remaining parts make me nervous. These type of delivery times would be season ending if it was my only machine to ride. I haven't picked up the new sled yet. I was hoping to pick up both sleds at the same time. Ironically, I have a whole set of clutches and some other components around just in case. It isn't my normal practice to stock a whole backup motor.

I have a similar approach. I'm just using fancy CDX instead. I'm pretty impressed with how well it has held up with tons of abuse. I use grip guides on the ramps. It's just easier to drive on and off with guides. I went with the plywood option to keep the floor flat while offering some protection. The trailer gets used for other projects at times and guides get in the way with rolling casters etc. Guides also make it a little harder to move sleds around. It's not a huge deal, but adds up if you load sleds a ton of times in a season. Our sleds mostly run studs. It's pretty impressive what a little throttle inexperience and studs will do to any floor. The cheap plywood will leave a nice pile of wood dust, but the floor underneath is still good.

You can't have a fight without two sides. It certainly has become worse. We spend a lot of time and energy trying to convince each other who is correct. There is an aspect to that phenomenon that also keeps popping up. Pretty much any perspective can be supported if you dig hard enough. (The earth is flat, nobody went to the moon, F7s are the fastest thing known to man.) I joke about it with my wife because she has to deal with the consequences in her work. People will ask the same question until they get the answer they want. That practice is becoming more prevalent. They will often go to different sources with their questions until they get the answer they want. It is pretty amazing some of the situations people end up in because somebody said. . . Money and time disappear pretty fast. They eventually have to deal with the facts too. . . the answer they didn't want to hear in the first place. We are probably all guilty of this practice to a point. It's easy to see in kids when they keep pushing their parents for the treat in a store or the toy they want. I myself want the answer that suits me best. I can argue all day if I want and maybe get the answer I'm hoping for in the end. The F7 is the fastest thing known to man.

Their energy issues will have a roll over effect to other markets. They don't like to play nice and they are sucking up everything they can get. I know it's easy to shoot the messenger. But there is a looming situation that we can plan for if we are smart. It is going to get expensive over here. Way beyond anything most people can comprehend. We will see it in the first line products pretty soon. LP and Fert. will roll over into heating and food production. We really do need to get off our affinity for knick knacks and doo dads. Buy locally made products and quit feeding their economy.

Have both. Also have some Snap On high torque impacts. The older Dewalt used to get the win because the batteries were so easy to change. They were harder to store and carry, but super simple to swap. The newer channel style is even more prone to dust and debris than the Milwaukee. Dewalt sorta screwed up with their high cap batteries. They are charger finicky. We have charger banks scattered around, but the high caps don't always work with their basic chargers. If you are using the basic 3/8 impacts either is fine. The Dewalt seems slightly louder. We have had issues with the Dewalt ball retainers on their 1/2 and 3/4 drives. Those tend to fail way before the drive. The Milwaukee triggers do need cleaning more often. The Snap On stuff works well, but we put those in a gold lined safe. Nobody wants to wreck one during a crap job. They come out when we need the "big guns" Also have some Makita stuff. Not bad, but one flaw in their 3/8 chuck. Drop one and you'll likely need tools to remove whatever is in the chuck. Have not used their bigger impacts. It's too bad Dewalt didn't go with the Milwaukee battery system when they changed. It would have been a good fit. The Dewalt line has some nice stuff like their light options and one hell of a leaf blower. The Milwaukee stuff seems a bit more user friendly for long haul wear.

I can tell you that they don't grab the perfect award either. We use a few different wheelers and SxS machines on the farm. They see a little hard work. One two year old Ranger has been in the shop for 8 months this year. It only needed engine top end, tranny, and exhaust. Granted, the machine got used a lot and hard, but they should still be at home more than 4 months in the second year. Actually had already ordered a new one before it went down too. Probably lucky on that decision. It's bad enough with their stuff that new machines are basically ordered as backups. We are currently waiting on another one with no real eta. The confidence in Poo hasn't won awards around the farm. But, we don't have many local options, so we deal with their issues. The issues are certainly not exclusive to a single brand. It's almost funny to think about brand with the work machines. They all look like shit after a few days and nobody cares what paint is on the things as long as they work.

I can't argue that those kind of wait times are unacceptable. It's worse considering the nature of the sport. Have snow, let go. The management style of selling without real support seems to have become the norm in this sport. That crap began before any goofy supply disruption so it's become worse with the rest of the world trying to catch up manufacturing and delivery. These dinkus heads have been screwing with us consumers far too long. Sadly, they now have another excuse to not have parts available. I tend to see things break for some reason. The ability to get parts in a timely manner has been getting worse for years. I figured last year would be a challenge so I tried to plan ahead for the season. I had brand new spare clutches, shocks, and smaller misc. parts ready to go. I swapped out the junk parts that tend to fail and reinforced skid components before the season even started. I didn't plan on popping a new stock motor. I also don't like to buy warranty parts, so I didn't order damn near a whole motor ahead of the season.

It's a real crap shoot on what is showing in my experience. Have a new 800 Cat ready to pick up. But . . . I'm still waiting on jugs and pistons for a 21 with the same motor. (They were ordered early in March.) I figure they are using the parts to make the new stuff. Currently that isn't a big deal, but I worry a bit about mid season parts. I can always ride a spare if needed, but I'd prefer not.

I saw it on the internet. It must be true. Overall, I'd rather see concerns addressed before the snow hits.

We usually put in reservations for the friggin holiday week every year. In fact, we make the reservation during the last spring trip just to make sure. Same story this year. I don't like riding that week because of questionable conditions and heavy traffic. Last couple of years a lot of the trails were not yet open. It can be a real crap fest. I only do that trip because riding buds kids are in school and don't have other easy options. I basically spend the week making sure they know how to ride smart and safe. I will say that the kids do get a good lesson in reality trying to ride those trails in that traffic. Every one of them has rode through mud holes and stickers during their first trip. When they screw up, they do the laundry. (Swamp mud can be some stinky crap.) Those kids learn fast. - The old guy wasn't kidding when he said to get on the gas. It's a crappy week to ride, but still better than sitting around home.

I choose full face on most occasions for trail riding. I have a pretty wide variety of helmets and goggles. (Some of the goggles are prototype jobbers from one of my wife's clients. I wish some of that stuff would make it to the market.) I still prefer a good no frills full face. I wear glasses and helmet noise is destroying my hearing. There are a lot of riders with glasses and hearing is going to become a bigger deal as time passes. It amazes me that we don't see helmets designed for that market. It is a tough choice at times trying to pick a helmet. Open face helmets can allow air to move well and they can be pretty light. I throw on an open face for dinking around and short hauls. The goggles work with glasses if you pick the right combo and manage the airflow. It is too much airflow on the long haul stuff unless you have a super windshield. Those tall windshields also make it hard to manage the airflow, so you go back to fogging issues. The full face is actually less hassle for me most of the time. I even run heated shields and it's not that big of a deal. It's something that becomes part of the routine. The heated shield is dang nice when riding freezing rain etc. The main deal breakers on full face are weight and airflow for glasses. The helmets with flip down sun visors contribute problems to both of those issues. It's funny that the TXI helmet was mentioned. The design worked pretty good with glasses and it was simple. I'd love to find a new variation of that design. Earplugs were also mentioned. That is an ongoing deal for myself. I have tried quite few different styles. The custom stuff fits nice and is easy. Their biggest downfall is the harder material they use. A lot of the helmet noise ends up being bone transmitted with air turbulence and machine vibration. Harder earplugs actually transmit vibration sound. The work fantastic at reducing direct and ambient noise so it can be a tradeoff. Custom plugs can work, but you also need a good helmet designed to reduce vibration. The hard foam used for impact durability is not good at reducing vibration.

Not sure if I call them knee pockets, but I like the pockets above the knee for the wallet and registration. I'm not a fan of sitting on the wallet while riding. They have a tendency to push out of hip pockets if I'm using the seat. Ass gets sore too. I started to use the knee pocket years ago and I've found another nice feature. It is easier to grab the wallet. Gets to be a bigger deal when doing quick gas fills in super cold temps. I don't waste time screwing around with zippers and making sure everything is closed tight again. It sucks to be down the trail and realize there 's a wind gap I missed.

Sorta know that body. Had a 68 Executive 2 door that I also drove as a daily driver. The body was unique and those rear quarter panels as mentioned were something. Mine had fender skirts and it made the panels seem even larger. The car was damn near a low rider without a drop. That trunk was like a having a truck bed. It was a cruiser as long as you pointed in a straight line. I didn't want to part with the car when I did quit driving the thing. It seemed like a waste to throw it away. I stored it in a shed until my nephew was old enough and into cars. Gave it to him as a project car and he is slowly going through the thing.