So, Fukushima is leaking, still, just more now.

[Jimmy Snacks]

5 minutes ago, SVT Renegade XRS said:

That show River Monsters was there doing looking for mutated fish.   Was creepy 

I saw that episode and it was pretty fucked up.

[f7ben]

The world needs to go full nuclear and to invest trillions in revolutionizing the nuke infrastructure .....these massive archaic monstrosities that are still operating need to be shut down now. The new generation of nuke plant doesnt carry 1/1000th of the risk of these old plants

Edited February 15, 2017 by f7ben

[Zambroski]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

The world needs to go full nuclear and to invest trillions in revolutionizing the nuke infrastructure .....these massive archaic monstrosities that are still operating need to be shut down now. The new generation of nuke plant doesnt carry 1/1000th of the risk of these old plants

I'm actually a bit weirded out at this amazingly insightful post.  Had to read it twice.

[f7ben]

Just now, Zambroski said:

I'm actually a bit weirded out at this amazingly insightful post.  Had to read it twice.

I'm pretty nuke curious and have done a fair bit of reading. I have also worked with several nuke sources and done some annual baseline background testing and such. I think that if the whole of humanity set their minds to it we could safely power our needs for many 1000s of years with nuclear reactors. There is zero excuse aside from greed for these old plants to still be in operation .....that and the fact that greeny faggots make it near impossible to permit a new facility

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

I'm pretty nuke curious and have done a fair bit of reading. I have also worked with several nuke sources and done some annual baseline background testing and such. I think that if the whole of humanity set their minds to it we could safely power our needs for many 1000s of years with nuclear reactors. There is zero excuse aside from greed for these old plants to still be in operation .....that and the fact that greeny faggots make it near impossible to permit a new facility

Yep.  Another problem is the nuclear knowledge is aged as hell.  These guys are banging out $100+/hr for shut down maintenance and very few kids are getting nuke engineering degrees.  Then, the time it takes for construction is rediculous.  Our "newest" one is Watts Bar in TN and that construction started in 1973!  I actually got to tour that facility.  Impressive isn't the word.

Nuke power is our answer with the newest technology.  Nobody wants to admit it because of the stigma.  

[Carlos Danger]

Just now, f7ben said:

I'm pretty nuke curious and have done a fair bit of reading. I have also worked with several nuke sources and done some annual baseline background testing and such. I think that if the whole of humanity set their minds to it we could safely power our needs for many 1000s of years with nuclear reactors. There is zero excuse aside from greed for these old plants to still be in operation .....that and the fact that greeny faggots make it near impossible to permit a new facility

We need to get away from Uranium and water reators and move towards Thorium and salt style units. Smaller, Safer and near limitless source of common fuel.

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, Zambroski said:

Yep.  Another problem is the nuclear knowledge is aged as hell.  These guys are banging out $100+/hr for shut down maintenance and very few kids are getting nuke engineering degrees.  Then, the time it takes for construction is rediculous.  Our "newest" one is Watts Bar in TN and that construction started in 1973!  I actually got to tour that facility.  Impressive isn't the word.

Nuke power is our answer with the newest technology.  Nobody wants to admit it because of the stigma.  

I would absolutely love to tour a nuke plant .....I had a PLC instructor that did some setup at a facility somewhere in the south of the states. They were trying to get timers in the logic accurate to some retarded fraction of time like millionths of a second  the scan time of the processor was like 6 milliseconds. The dude was like , I dont know how to help you achieve what you are attempting here. All the whitecoats just stared at him and then went about their business 

Just now, Carlos Danger said:

We need to get away from Uranium and water reators and move towards Thorium and salt style units. Smaller, Safer and near limitless source of common fuel.

there have been many advancements and there are ton of different options for doing it better than heavy water reactors. breeder reactors were never given a chance and could have got us out of the stone age and well on our way

[spin_dry]

nuke power is dead. it ain't going to happen. there's 100 years of natural gas in the ground. by the time that runs out we'll see an alternative of something else that no one expects. 

[f7ben]

5 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

nuke power is dead. it ain't going to happen. there's 100 years of natural gas in the ground. by the time that runs out we'll see an alternative of something else that no one expects. 

there is a billion years of nuke power waiting to be tapped .....its the way of the future

[spin_dry]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

there is a billion years of nuke power waiting to be tapped .....its the way of the future

politically nuke power is dead. it ain't coming back. energy companies don't want it. communities won't have one in their back yard. 

[f7ben]

6 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

politically nuke power is dead. it ain't coming back. energy companies don't want it. communities won't have one in their back yard. 

I want one in my basement

[motonoggin]

1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said:

Because we used nuclear fission to make bombs instead of power plants to start with we are stuck dangerous high pressure reactor vessels and the danger that comes with them.  Maybe someday we will work in our best interest.

  

 

That's pretty interesting.

Thanks for posting.

[spin_dry]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

I want one in my basement

your wife wants that new washer and drier first. 

[f7ben]

57 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

your wife wants that new washer and drier first. 

Nuke powered washer and dryer?

[Ez ryder]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

Yep.  Another problem is the nuclear knowledge is aged as hell.  These guys are banging out $100+/hr for shut down maintenance and very few kids are getting nuke engineering degrees.  Then, the time it takes for construction is rediculous.  Our "newest" one is Watts Bar in TN and that construction started in 1973!  I actually got to tour that facility.  Impressive isn't the word.

Nuke power is our answer with the newest technology.  Nobody wants to admit it because of the stigma.  

more than 100 a hr. I have a bud and both his kids went to school joined the navy did there 4 working in nuclear propulsion. both had multiple offers before they got out over 160k starting, not bad before 30 

[racinfarmer]

1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

nuke power is dead. it ain't going to happen. there's 100 years of natural gas in the ground. by the time that runs out we'll see an alternative of something else that no one expects. 

MagnaCoaster!

[Ez ryder]

12 hours ago, spin_dry said:

politically nuke power is dead. it ain't coming back. energy companies don't want it. communities won't have one in their back yard. 

still over 1/4 of the power in the EU is nuke and they build and rebuild plants .

far from dead lots of plants in the works link below

Nuclear plant construction

Most reactors currently planned are in the Asian region, with fast-growing economies and rapidly-rising electricity demand.

Many countries with existing nuclear power programs (Argentina, Armenia, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Czech Rep., India, Pakistan, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, South Korea, South Africa, UAE, Ukraine, UK, USA) have plans to build new power reactors (beyond those now under construction).

In all, over 160 power reactors with a total net capacity of some 182,000 MWe are planned and over 300 more are proposed. Energy security concerns and greenhouse constraints on coal burning have combined with basic economics to put nuclear power back on the agenda for projected new capacity in many countries.

In the USA there are plans for five new reactors, beyond the four under construction now. It is expected that some of the new reactors will be online by 2020.

In Finland, construction is now under way on a fifth, very large reactor which is expected to come on line in 2018, and plans are progressing for another large one to follow it.

France is building a similar 1600 MWe unit at Flamanville, for operation from 2018.

In the UK, four similar 1600 MWe units are planned, and a further 6000 MWe is proposed.

Romania's second power reactor istarted up in 2007, and plans are being implemented for two further Canadian units to be built there.

Slovakia is completing two 470 MWe units at Mochovce, to operate from 2017.

Bulgaria is planning to build a large new reactor at Kozloduy.

Belarus is building two large new Russian reactors at Ostrovets.

In Russia, several reactors and two small ones are under active construction, and one recently put into operation is a large fast neutron reactor. About 25 further reactors are then planned, some to replace existing plants. This will increase the country's present nuclear power capacity significantly by 2030. In addition about 5 GW of nuclear thermal capacity is planned. A small floating power plant is expected to be commissioned by 2018 and others are planned to follow.

Poland is planning two 3000 MWe nuclear power plants.

South Korea plans to bring a further three reactors into operation by 2018, and another eight by about 2030, giving total new capacity of 17,200 MWe. All of these are the Advanced PWRs of 1400 MWe. These APR-1400 designs have evolved from a US design which has US NRC design certification, and four been sold to the UAE (see below).

Japan has two reactors under construction but another three which were likely to start building by mid-2017 have been deferred.

In China, now with 36 operating reactors on the mainland, the country is well into the growth phase of its nuclear power program. There were eight new grid connections in 2015, and five in 2016. Over 20 more reactors are under construction, including the world's first Westinghouse AP1000 units, and a demonstration high-temperature gas-cooled reactor plant. Many more units are planned, including two largely indigenous designs – the Hualong One and CAP1400. China aims to have more nuclear capacity than any country except the USA and France by 2020.

India has 21 reactors in operation, and six under construction. This includes two large Russian reactors and a large prototype fast breeder reactor as part of its strategy to develop a fuel cycle which can utilise thorium. Over 20 further units are planned. 18 further units are planned, and proposals for more - including western and Russian designs - are taking shape following the lifting of trade restrictions.

Pakistan has third and fourth 300 MWe reactors under construction at Chashma, financed by China. Two larger Chinese power reactors are planned.

In Kazakhstan, a joint venture with Russia's Atomstroyexport envisages development and marketing of innovative small and medium-sized reactors, starting with a 300 MWe Russian design as baseline for Kazakh units.

In Iran a 1000 MWe PWR at Bushehr came on line in 2011, and further units are planned.

The United Arab Emirates awarded a $20.4 billion contract to a South Korean consortium to build four 1400 MWe reactors by 2020. They are under construction, on schedule.

Jordan has committed plans for its first reactor, and is developing its legal and regulatory infrastructure.

Turkey has contracts signed for four 1200 MWe Russian nuclear reactors at one site and four European ones at another. Its legal and regulatory infrastructure is well-developed.

 

Edited February 15, 2017 by Ez ryder

[spin_dry]

2 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

still over 1/4 of the power in the EU is nuke and they build and rebuild plants .

far from dead lots of plants in the works link below

Nuclear plant construction

Most reactors currently planned are in the Asian region, with fast-growing economies and rapidly-rising electricity demand.

Many countries with existing nuclear power programs (Argentina, Armenia, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Czech Rep., India, Pakistan, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, South Korea, South Africa, UAE, Ukraine, UK, USA) have plans to build new power reactors (beyond those now under construction).

In all, over 160 power reactors with a total net capacity of some 182,000 MWe are planned and over 300 more are proposed. Energy security concerns and greenhouse constraints on coal burning have combined with basic economics to put nuclear power back on the agenda for projected new capacity in many countries.

In the USA there are plans for five new reactors, beyond the four under construction now. It is expected that some of the new reactors will be online by 2020.

In Finland, construction is now under way on a fifth, very large reactor which is expected to come on line in 2018, and plans are progressing for another large one to follow it.

France is building a similar 1600 MWe unit at Flamanville, for operation from 2018.

In the UK, four similar 1600 MWe units are planned, and a further 6000 MWe is proposed.

Romania's second power reactor istarted up in 2007, and plans are being implemented for two further Canadian units to be built there.

Slovakia is completing two 470 MWe units at Mochovce, to operate from 2017.

Bulgaria is planning to build a large new reactor at Kozloduy.

Belarus is building two large new Russian reactors at Ostrovets.

In Russia, several reactors and two small ones are under active construction, and one recently put into operation is a large fast neutron reactor. About 25 further reactors are then planned, some to replace existing plants. This will increase the country's present nuclear power capacity significantly by 2030. In addition about 5 GW of nuclear thermal capacity is planned. A small floating power plant is expected to be commissioned by 2018 and others are planned to follow.

Poland is planning two 3000 MWe nuclear power plants.

South Korea plans to bring a further three reactors into operation by 2018, and another eight by about 2030, giving total new capacity of 17,200 MWe. All of these are the Advanced PWRs of 1400 MWe. These APR-1400 designs have evolved from a US design which has US NRC design certification, and four been sold to the UAE (see below).

Japan has two reactors under construction but another three which were likely to start building by mid-2017 have been deferred.

In China, now with 36 operating reactors on the mainland, the country is well into the growth phase of its nuclear power program. There were eight new grid connections in 2015, and five in 2016. Over 20 more reactors are under construction, including the world's first Westinghouse AP1000 units, and a demonstration high-temperature gas-cooled reactor plant. Many more units are planned, including two largely indigenous designs – the Hualong One and CAP1400. China aims to have more nuclear capacity than any country except the USA and France by 2020.

India has 21 reactors in operation, and six under construction. This includes two large Russian reactors and a large prototype fast breeder reactor as part of its strategy to develop a fuel cycle which can utilise thorium. Over 20 further units are planned. 18 further units are planned, and proposals for more - including western and Russian designs - are taking shape following the lifting of trade restrictions.

Pakistan has third and fourth 300 MWe reactors under construction at Chashma, financed by China. Two larger Chinese power reactors are planned.

In Kazakhstan, a joint venture with Russia's Atomstroyexport envisages development and marketing of innovative small and medium-sized reactors, starting with a 300 MWe Russian design as baseline for Kazakh units.

In Iran a 1000 MWe PWR at Bushehr came on line in 2011, and further units are planned.

The United Arab Emirates awarded a $20.4 billion contract to a South Korean consortium to build four 1400 MWe reactors by 2020. They are under construction, on schedule.

Jordan has committed plans for its first reactor, and is developing its legal and regulatory infrastructure.

Turkey has contracts signed for four 1200 MWe Russian nuclear reactors at one site and four European ones at another. Its legal and regulatory infrastructure is well-developed.

 

so? 

[01mxz800]

I have 2 nuke plants within 50 miles of where I live and neither has ever had problems

[Ez ryder]

7 hours ago, spin_dry said:

so? 

just pointing out that nuclear power is not dead like posted above . many still being built or in the works to be built .

in fact U are the one who said it was dead

[spin_dry]

23 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

just pointing out that nuclear power is not dead like posted above . many still being built or in the works to be built .

in fact U are the one who said it was dead

its dead here in america. that's what we were discussing. it's also, for all practical purposes, dead in the EU. france hasn't sold a reactor in 8 years. 

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

its dead here in america. that's what we were discussing. it's also, for all practical purposes, dead in the EU. france hasn't sold a reactor in 8 years. 

you were just proven wrong ....yet you make the same assertion. Ponderous

[Ez ryder]

3 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

its dead here in america. that's what we were discussing. it's also, for all practical purposes, dead in the EU. france hasn't sold a reactor in 8 years. 

(Updated February 2017)

• Nuclear power capacity worldwide is increasing steadily, with over 60 reactors under construction in 15 countries.
• Most reactors on order or planned are in the Asian region, though there are major plans for new units in Russia.
• Significant further capacity is being created by plant upgrading.
• Plant life extension programs are maintaining capacity, in USA particularly.

Today there are some 440 nuclear power reactors operating in 31 countries plus Taiwan, with a combined capacity of over 385 GWe. In 2014 these provided 2411 billion kWh, over 11% of the world's electricity.

Over 60 power reactors are currently being constructed in 13 countries plus Taiwan (see Table below), notably China, South Korea, UAE and Russia.

[spin_dry]

5 minutes ago, f7ben said:

you were just proven wrong ....yet you make the same assertion. Ponderous

keep pedaling. nuke power is dead here. deal with it. if you want your lights lite by a nuke plant than move to china or eastern europe. take what's his face with you. 

[Ez ryder]

not sure of my convictions of nuclear power . but it is a necessary evil  

pretty sure every war ship now and planed is using it for propulsion also . far from dead

any one know if we have finished  the storage mine yet?