motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Have any of you ever heard of critical race theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: No, it's not. It may be prejudiced or bigoted but it's not racist because racism is structural and institutional, not just a matter of personal feelings. It may also be "structural and institutional" but those are add-ins/ons beloved by your team. It is about race. Not sure who some of you aren't getting this. Well, that's not true...I do understand it. But find it a laughable definition by a group of disinfranchised, self hating posers looking to try and belong in just another grievance group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 19, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: So you disagree that racism has been institutionalized in American society and American governance? In the past of course that was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: What can white people do? Let's not discuss what you think black people should do to make you happy. Expose, condem, and eradicate cases of racism. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: You like to get bogged down in semantics. That isn't going anywhere. Good non-argument. You case is weak, that's why you can't make it. Your underlying ideological reasoning isn't sound. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: In the past of course that was true. But not now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Good non-argument. You case is weak, that's why you can't make it. Your underlying ideological reasoning isn't sound. Neal If you want to continue to deny that racism is systemic and structural, we'll get nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Expose, condem, and eradicate cases of racism. Neal Like celebrities saying mean things about white people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Good non-argument. You case is weak, that's why you can't make it. Your underlying ideological reasoning isn't sound. Neal 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: If you want to continue to deny that racism is systemic and structural, we'll get nowhere. I'd consider jumping in here....but I'll just watch as I eat my delicious ommelette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 19, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: But not now? That's why I said in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: If you want to continue to deny that racism is systemic and structural, we'll get nowhere. Racism reared its ugly head after Obama was out of office and Trump won...........................divisive politics are a tactic of the DNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Like celebrities saying mean things about white people? Certainly. As someone previously asked, is there a difference between what she said, and if a white person said they were rooting for all the white nominees? If you can see those as equal, then we have a base to work off of, if not you are using unsound reasoning and it is unlikely you will be able to convince anyone of any racist points you may try to make. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Biggie Smails said: That's why I said in the past. So, drug arrest and incarceration rates, for example, aren't an indicator of lasting structural racism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Usedtoskidoo said: Racism reared its ugly head after Obama was out of office and Trump won...........................divisive politics are a tactic of the DNC. There were many cases of racists and racist behavior while Obama was in office, don't be silly. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Usedtoskidoo said: Racism reared its ugly head after Obama was out of office and Trump won...........................divisive politics are a tactic of the DNC. Lol, no. Racism has been a part of American society and governance since the beginning. 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Certainly. As someone previously asked, is there a difference between what she said, and if a white person said they were rooting for all the white nominees? If you can see those as equal, then we have a base to work off of, if not you are using unsound reasoning and it is unlikely you will be able to convince anyone of any racist points you may try to make. Neal The difference is white people are members of the oppressor class and black people aren't. But you don't even admit that white people built racism into our social structure, so I can see why you'd think there isn't a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 19, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: So, drug arrest and incarceration rates, for example, aren't an indicator of lasting structural racism? Nope but it's an excuse for not breaking the cycle. Easier to blame racism of the past than to improve going forward. People like you do a disservice to the black community with this bullshit. Edited September 19, 2017 by Biggie Smails 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: There were many cases of racists and racist behavior while Obama was in office, don't be silly. Neal but that's my point. He was supposed to heal the divide. But in reality the divide was recreated and pushed on us all as a decried narrative and that failed miserably. Now racism is being used as nothing but a weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Biggie Smails said: Nope but it's an excuse for not breaking the cycle. Easier to blame racism of the past than to improve going forward. Nope? Despite drug use rates amongst blacks and whites is almost identical? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Usedtoskidoo said: but that's my point. He was supposed to heal the divide. But in reality the divide was recreated and pushed on us all as a decried narrative and that failed miserably. Now racism is being used as nothing but a weapon. Lol. Electing a black president isn't going to fix racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Lol. Electing a black president isn't going to fix racism. ummmmmmmmmmm, ya. Where have you been the last 9 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted September 19, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Biggie Smails said: Nope but it's an excuse for not breaking the cycle. Easier to blame racism of the past than to improve going forward. Pretty much! Just now, motonoggin said: Lol. Electing a black president isn't going to fix racism. Not but it certainly should've helped....but it didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Usedtoskidoo said: ummmmmmmmmmm, ya. Where have you been the last 9 years? 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: Pretty much! Not but it certainly should've helped....but it didn't. Lol. "We elected a black neoliberal warmonger, black people should be happy..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Lol, no. Racism has been a part of American society and governance since the beginning. The difference is white people are members of the oppressor class and black people aren't. But you don't even admit that white people built racism into our social structure, so I can see why you'd think there isn't a difference. See here is where your logic is flawed, there are white people who are oppressors, however the class of oppression does not include all white people. Until you can change your paradigm, and understand that the class we are discussing is racism, not white, we can move forward with eliminating methods and instances. Trying to apply an illogical attribute to a class is only working for the problem, not against it. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Nope? Despite drug use rates amongst blacks and whites is almost identical? 🤔 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 This omelette is delicious!!!! ...and Moto and those like him refuse to accept what is reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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