GreenStreak Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Guy makes some great points, chime in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2017 Very disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hooray for Clarence "Uncle Tom" Thomas! The man who got his education thanks to affirmative action and then decided affirmative action was a terrible thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) The SCOTUS has chosen to only hear like two 2nd amendment cases in the last decade or some shit. That was like 15x lower than the 1st and 4th cases. My numbers may be a smidge off there but it was something like that ..... These fucks dont want to establish to much precedent affirming the 2nd because they see it as dangerous territory to let the public be armed to the teeth and as such a partner arbiter of what is ultimately to occur in this nation. Edited July 7, 2017 by f7ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Wildboer said: Hooray for Clarence "Uncle Tom" Thomas! The man who got his education thanks to affirmative action and then decided affirmative action was a terrible thing Uncle Tom?? You're a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 7, 2017 6 hours ago, jtssrx said: Uncle Tom?? You're a moron Well that is WB's new schtick...self identifying as black and calling everyone a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: Well that is WB's new schtick...self identifying as black and calling everyone a racist. 7 hours ago, jtssrx said: Uncle Tom?? You're a moron Right on both counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 18 hours ago, Wildboer said: Hooray for Clarence "Uncle Tom" Thomas! The man who got his education thanks to affirmative action and then decided affirmative action was a terrible thing What? His statement was spot on (If you even made it that far in the video). Oh, that's right....a black man with intelligence and reasoning is an "Uncle Tom nigger" to your side. Got it. 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: Well that is WB's new schtick...self identifying as black and calling everyone a racist. That's been their thing for many years. It's bizarre as hell. Identify with a race or movement that is really theirs, then, chastise anybody that isn't identifying with it. It's a mental disorder of the highest magnitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Biggie Smails said: Well that is WB's new schtick...self identifying as black and calling everyone a racist. I identify as a black unicorn, get it right Smails! 44 minutes ago, Zambroski said: What? His statement was spot on (If you even made it that far in the video). Oh, that's right....a black man with intelligence and reasoning is an "Uncle Tom nigger" to your side. Got it. That's been their thing for many years. It's bizarre as hell. Identify with a race or movement that is really theirs, then, chastise anybody that isn't identifying with it. It's a mental disorder of the highest magnitude. I watched the whole thing, the guy is a pretty decent YouTuber. I still hate Clarence Thomas and we're still not trying to take away your guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wildboer said: I watched the whole thing, the guy is a pretty decent YouTuber. I still hate Clarence Thomas and we're still not trying to take away your guns. I actually didn't think he was that good at all. But, valid points. And nobody really thinks anybody is trying to physically take away our guns. Cuz..... But there is no question that if the left can take gun rights away, or severely hinder distribution, they'll be better off. Deep, deep, DEEP down inside all Dems, they know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I actually didn't think he was that good at all. But, valid points. And nobody really thinks anybody is trying to physically take away our guns. Cuz..... But there is no question that if the left can take gun rights away, or severely hinder distribution, they'll be better off. Deep, deep, DEEP down inside all Dems, they know this. I mean I must have missed a memo or something because as far as I can tell most of us just want stuff like universal background checks, the most extreme it goes is probably something along the lines of a registry, but like you said... no one is going to use that registry to try and take away your guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Just now, Wildboer said: I mean I must have missed a memo or something because as far as I can tell most of us just want stuff like universal background checks, the most extreme it goes is probably something along the lines of a registry, but like you said... no one is going to use that registry to try and take away your guns. Check your fax machine...lol We already have universal checks. And your "team" has already experimented with a "registry". Amazingly, NOBODY owns guns! You'd better just come take them if you think I'm putting my name on a list for some clowns. I'm not against expanding some of the checks, and it can be done, just not the way it's been tried. Hell, Dems would declare anybody who wanted a gun "mentally incompetent" if they could get their version of that horse shit passed. On the bold: Yeah.....that's how it's worked in history. Put your name on a g'ment "list", and it all works out well...for the government....ahhhhh.....I see your point now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: Check your fax machine...lol We already have universal checks. And your "team" has already experimented with a "registry". Amazingly, NOBODY owns guns! You'd better just come take them if you think I'm putting my name on a list for some clowns. I'm not against expanding some of the checks, and it can be done, just not the way it's been tried. Hell, Dems would declare anybody who wanted a gun "mentally incompetent" if they could get their version of that horse shit passed. On the bold: Yeah.....that's how it's worked in history. Put your name on a g'ment "list", and it all works out well...for the government....ahhhhh.....I see your point now. Dude, the ATF can't even use fucking computers to trace a gun now, say what you want about a registry, can we just let them use computers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Dude, the ATF can't even use fucking computers to trace a gun now, say what you want about a registry, can we just let them use computers? Not if it's in violation of FOPA. Why didn't Obama's admin try to change this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Not if it's in violation of FOPA. Why didn't Obama's admin try to change this? I can't imagine what I'm talking about is, I'm not talking about a registry, I'm talking about going paperless with information they already have stored in manual ATF databases. He probably did and it got shot down and called a registry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Where do we buy guns and not have a background check?! Still looking for this magical place. Not willing to drive to the South Side of Chicago though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 7, 2017 11 hours ago, f7ben said: The SCOTUS has chosen to only hear like two 2nd amendment cases in the last decade or some shit. That was like 15x lower than the 1st and 4th cases. My numbers may be a smidge off there but it was something like that ..... These fucks dont want to establish to much precedent affirming the 2nd because they see it as dangerous territory to let the public be armed to the teeth and as such a partner arbiter of what is ultimately to occur in this nation. The SC hasn't done much for letting us arm ourselves. There are over 300 million guns in America right now with records being set almost every year. The issue is not buying but freely carrying outside the home without some cop signing off on you. Prior to Iowa changing our laws we had to give a reason to the Sheriff for a CCP. I simply said as a business owner I didn't want to case my firearm from home to work everyday and I was easily granted a permit. I mentioned no existing threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Where do we buy guns and not have a background check?! Still looking for this magical place. Not willing to drive to the South Side of Chicago though... Long guns from an individual (person to person) need no background check. I would never do it this way. I'd run it thru a FFL dealer unless a family member or close friend. Our local papers use to let guns run in the classifieds. Bought my first Benelli that way. Edited July 7, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, Wildboer said: I can't imagine what I'm talking about is, I'm not talking about a registry, I'm talking about going paperless with information they already have stored in manual ATF databases. He probably did and it got shot down and called a registry. Probably because that's what was brought to the table....under the fancy guise of being "helpful". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/6/2017 at 11:48 PM, f7ben said: The SCOTUS has chosen to only hear like two 2nd amendment cases in the last decade or some shit. That was like 15x lower than the 1st and 4th cases. My numbers may be a smidge off there but it was something like that ..... These fucks dont want to establish to much precedent affirming the 2nd because they see it as dangerous territory to let the public be armed to the teeth and as such a partner arbiter of what is ultimately to occur in this nation. Spot on Sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 22 hours ago, Wildboer said: I mean I must have missed a memo or something because as far as I can tell most of us just want stuff like universal background checks, the most extreme it goes is probably something along the lines of a registry, but like you said... no one is going to use that registry to try and take away your guns. Yankee Marshal is a liberal the only reason a lot of liberals don't like him is because he is not one of you extreme Lefty's he is a middle-of-the-road liberal. As far as a registry goes it is a lot of crap. it's nobody's business but mine as to what Firearms are in my gun safe. not you, not the federal government, and not the state government or local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 21 hours ago, Highmark said: Long guns from an individual (person to person) need no background check. I would never do it this way. I'd run it thru a FFL dealer unless a family member or close friend. Our local papers use to let guns run in the classifieds. Bought my first Benelli that way. Here in New York I just sold my brother a Glock 21 and had to use an FFL thanks to Cuomo and his stupid New York Safe Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/7/2017 at 11:11 AM, Zambroski said: Probably because that's what was brought to the table....under the fancy guise of being "helpful". Really? You're going to trust that congress read it for what it was, decided it was a registry, and voted it down? You've gotta be smarter than that man, gun control debates in DC are never about the truth. It's the left and right talking past each other over and over. 6 hours ago, GreenStreak said: Yankee Marshal is a liberal the only reason a lot of liberals don't like him is because he is not one of you extreme Lefty's he is a middle-of-the-road liberal. As far as a registry goes it is a lot of crap. it's nobody's business but mine as to what Firearms are in my gun safe. not you, not the federal government, and not the state government or local. He's a moderate, you're an extremist. Yeah, I already knew both of those things, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Wildboer said: Really? You're going to trust that congress read it for what it was, decided it was a registry, and voted it down? You've gotta be smarter than that man, gun control debates in DC are never about the truth. It's the left and right talking past each other over and over. He's a moderate, you're an extremist. Yeah, I already knew both of those things, thanks. Oh, you labeled me. Although quaint and expected, you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, GreenStreak said: Oh, you labeled me. Although quaint and expected, you're wrong. Not on the second amendment I'm not. Throw me some ideas on curbing gun violence if you're so moderate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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