ICEMAN! Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 #winning https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/06/05/the-110-billion-arms-deal-to-saudi-arabia-is-fake-news/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: #winning https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/06/05/the-110-billion-arms-deal-to-saudi-arabia-is-fake-news/ winning bigley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 this seems similar to the "documents" that trumpy signed yesterday for the air transportation upgrades. "intent" letters, nothing more. no way does the clown just like to look important signing things for the camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 theres been so little real in what Trump claims to have accomplished it's no wonder he tweets shit out to take the focus off what he's not actually getting accomplished. and yet he was still a better choice than Clinton, amazing how the DNC fucked this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) You guys are right. Its probably fake news as CNN is reporting it. http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/jared-kushner-saudi-arms-deal-lockheed-martin/index.html Trump signs Kushner-negotiated $100B Saudi arms deal Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (CNN)President Donald Trump signed a nearly $110 billion defense deal with Saudi Arabia's King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud on Saturday, signaling the United States' renewed commitment to its alliance with the Gulf kingdom and desire to bolster its counterterrorism partnership. The deal was finalized in part thanks to the direct involvement of Jared Kushner, the President's son-in-law and senior adviser. He shocked a high-level Saudi delegation earlier this month when he personally called Lockheed Martin CEO Marillyn Hewson and asked if she would cut the price of a sophisticated missile detection system, according to a source with knowledge of the call. Pressured to finalize a massive $100-plus billion arms deal in the two weeks leading up to Trump's trip to Saudi Arabia, Kushner hoped to maneuver a discount on Lockheed's Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system during the Saudis' visit to the White House on May 1 -- a request that Hewson said she would look into at the time. The New York Times first reported the exchange between Kushner and Hewson. On Saturday, near the end of Trump's first day in the kingdom, the two leaders inked a deal greenlighting a $109 billion defense deal, which Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said was a component of $350 billion in economic and defense investments between the two countries over the next 10 years. Lockheed's Hewson was on hand Saturday in the cavernous Riyadh ballroom where Trump and Salman made the deal official. The company was "proud to be part of this historic announcement that will strengthen the relationship between" the US and Saudi Arabia," Hewson said. The sales authorized under the deal would bolster Saudi Arabia's security, provide an economic boon to both countries and "strengthen the cause of peace in the region," she added The deal was a welcome sign for Saudi Arabia, which had grown nervous about the strength of its alliance with the US as President Barack Obama signed the nuclear deal with Iran and signaled a potential rapprochement with the Persian nation, which is fiercely at odds with Saudi Arabia. Trump, by contrast, has castigated Iran as a destabilizing power and criticized the nuclear deal, instead seeking to bolster partnerships with Sunni Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia -- which Trump demonstrated by making his first foreign trip as president here. In a statement, a White House official called the defense deal "a significant expansion of the over seven-decade long security relationship between" the US and Saudi Arabia. "This package of defense equipment and services support the long-term security of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region in the face of Iranian threats while also bolstering the Kingdom's ability to contribute to counterterrorism operations across the region, reducing the burden on the US military to conduct those operations," the White House official said. Ultimately, the two sides were able to reach an agreement on a weapons package that amounts to nearly $110 billion in tanks, fighter jets, combat ships and the THAAD missile defense system, according to the White House. It is unclear how much the Saudis will be paying for THAAD, but Trump called it a "billion-dollar system" last month when the US deployed the advanced missile defense radar to South Korea. While calling the head of a major defense company and simply asking for a lower price is widely considered an unorthodox negotiation tactic, Kushner's hands-on approach has drawn comparisons to when then-President-elect Trump criticized the stealthy F-35 fighter jet for being too expensive, and Hewson gave her "personal commitment" to cut the cost of the program in February. And the details of how the call took place also provide a window into Kushner's role during negotiations with the Saudis and the range of his influence on matters of foreign policy as a whole. During last year's presidential campaign and later during the transition, Kushner was identified by Trump's team as the principal point of contact for foreign governments looking to either congratulate the new US leader or begin diplomatic talks. The 36-year-old commercial real estate magnate started building a relationship with members of the Saudi royal family shortly after the election, a source told CNN, and was on hand when Trump hosted the deputy crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, in March. Issues of foreign diplomacy evolved into an interagency effort once the administration began, according to a source, and Kushner's role in negotiating the arms deal was just one part of an larger effort that included the State Department, Department of Defense and National Security Council. But the scope of Kushner's influence on matters of foreign policy have remained in the spotlight through the early months of Trump's presidency. CNN reported last month that multiple White House and administration officials said Kushner had eclipsed nearly all of Trump's West Wing and Cabinet advisers in terms of influence and established himself as the key envoy for those outside the administration. White House press secretary Sean Spicer said at the time that Kushner was working jointly with the State Department to manage the administration's foreign affairs. "He's continuing to work with them and facilitate an outcome. But he brings a perspective to this, and began doing that during the transition. But again, it's not a binary choice where he's doing this at the expense of somebody else." CNN's Betsy Klein and Elise Labott contributed to this report. Edited June 6, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: theres been so little real in what Trump claims to have accomplished it's no wonder he tweets shit out to take the focus off what he's not actually getting accomplished. and yet he was still a better choice than Clinton, amazing how the DNC fucked this country Hillary You know you fucked up but can't adimit it out loud in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Oops! The NY Times says it true as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/world/middleeast/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-arms-deal-lockheed.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Skidmsrk - look at the dares on your drivel compared to the OP Dude - you shit yourself and come runnnimg everytime Dump and Family is criticized It's comical to witness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: theres been so little real in what Trump claims to have accomplished it's no wonder he tweets shit out to take the focus off what he's not actually getting accomplished. and yet he was still a better choice than Clinton, amazing how the DNC fucked this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Hillary You know you fucked up but can't adimit it out loud in here I actually don't care for Kusher at all. I just think its funny that the liberal media can't get their narrative together. I've also been critical of Trump on plenty of occasions. You on the other hand were never critical of Hillary on anything. Edited June 6, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 "nice find" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: "nice find" Thank you! Really nothing to it. It's pretty clear who should have won that on your side....hyperbole aside and all. But hey...it all seemed to work out just as planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Oh no, not the CBC too! http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-first-foreign-tour-begins-1.4125298 Trump and King Salman signed a series of agreements cementing their countries' military and economic partnerships. One is a military sales deal of about $110 billion US, taking effect effective immediately. Another $350-billion US arms deal is to play out over the next 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 ICEWELCHER loves him some FAKENEWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Oh no, not the CBC too! http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-first-foreign-tour-begins-1.4125298 Trump and King Salman signed a series of agreements cementing their countries' military and economic partnerships. One is a military sales deal of about $110 billion US, taking effect effective immediately. Another $350-billion US arms deal is to play out over the next 10 years. Hey dummy, it was reported as a "deal" in the press because the White House announced it as a "deal." "Riedel, who worked for the C.I.A. for 30 years, writes that all of his sources in the defense business and on Capitol Hill say “there is no $110 billion deal” but rather “a bunch of letters of interest or intent but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday,” but “so far, nothing has been notified to the Senate for review.” The arms sales division of the Pentagon, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, Riedel writes, has labeled them “intended sales.” And here’s the kicker: “none of the deals identified so far are new; all began in the Obama administration.” (The White House did not respond to a request for comment on Riedel’s claims." https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/kushners-huge-saudi-arms-deal-may-be-smaller-than-it-seems/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Hey dummy, it was reported as a "deal" in the press because the White House announced it as a "deal." "Riedel, who worked for the C.I.A. for 30 years, writes that all of his sources in the defense business and on Capitol Hill say “there is no $110 billion deal” but rather “a bunch of letters of interest or intent but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday,” but “so far, nothing has been notified to the Senate for review.” The arms sales division of the Pentagon, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, Riedel writes, has labeled them “intended sales.” And here’s the kicker: “none of the deals identified so far are new; all began in the Obama administration.” (The White House did not respond to a request for comment on Riedel’s claims." https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/kushners-huge-saudi-arms-deal-may-be-smaller-than-it-seems/amp Hey dummy, I'm laughing that the MSM can't get its narrative together. Why did CNN and the Times pump up Kushner's involvement? Edited June 6, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Hey dummy, I'm laughing that the MSM can't get its narrative together. Why did CNN and the Times pump up Kushner's involvement? They're only reporting what the White House told them. Garbage in = Garbage out Why is this so hard to understand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Angry ginger said: theres been so little real in what Trump claims to have accomplished it's no wonder he tweets shit out to take the focus off what he's not actually getting accomplished. and yet he was still a better choice than Clinton, amazing how the DNC fucked this country the DNC fucked the country? how about the voting republicans fucked this country. they nominated this piece of shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: the DNC fucked the country? how about the voting republicans fucked this country. they nominated this piece of shit. Do you think Trump would have beaten Sanders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: the DNC fucked the country? how about the voting republicans fucked this country. they nominated this piece of shit. Dumpers Spot on - the Dumpers with a guilty conscious keep.lookimg for someone to blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 6, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Do you think Trump would have beaten Sanders? It's irrelevant. The only relevance are those who voted for Dump. How in the fuck can so many clowns on here who voted for Dump blame someone else for their own vote? Personal responsibility Edited June 6, 2017 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: the DNC fucked the country? how about the voting republicans fucked this country. they nominated this piece of shit. Trump was chosen through a generally fair process and in fact the RNC didn't want him there The DNC decided to make Hillary the candidate regardless of the wants and needs of the constituents A bad candidate chosen by the people is always better than one chosen by some figureheads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Trump was the better of the 2 candidates then and now, SBYL slope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: Trump was chosen through a generally fair process and in fact the RNC didn't want him there The DNC decided to make Hillary the candidate regardless of the wants and needs of the constituents A bad candidate chosen by the people is always better than one chosen by some figureheads. Fucking BOOM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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