ZR6000RR Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, krom said: god you are an idiot.. look at market share and sleds sold.. Maybe over the last 3 years combined they built that many yami.. Or last year all brands combined they built 8k sleds, but they haven't built 8k ac sleds since textron took over and went pre order only. last year they built close to the same number of units for brp as for ac Info from someone who gets paid to know.... My source is higher up than you will ever be. Maybe you forgot outside New York Mills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: My source is higher up than you will ever be. Maybe you forgot outside New York Mills. Just another time you are lying. Industry production and market share numbers prove that. You have some amazing sources Just as good as the source who told you the new engine is an 870? The one who told you they are building catalysts in feb 23? The one who told you yamaha wasn't going anywhere? The one who told you your rr would be to the dealer in january? The one who told you your wheeler didn't need the update that "all" 600's did? Edited December 12, 2023 by krom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, krom said: Just another time you are lying. Industry production and market share numbers prove that. You have some amazing sources Just as good as the source who told you the new engine is an 870? The one who told you they are building catalysts in feb 23? The one who told you yamaha wasn't going anywhere? The one who told you your rr would be to the dealer in january? The one who told you your wheeler didn't need the update that "all" 600's did? You worry about the guy who got facts. Calling me a liar over 12 cc's is the best. You are a fucking idiot. Is your real name Lucy? As in you are a LIAR CHARLIE BROWN. Pathetic what New York Mills peddles out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: You worry about the guy who got facts. Calling me a liar over 12 cc's is the best. You are a fucking idiot. Is your real name Lucy? As in you are a LIAR CHARLIE BROWN. Pathetic what New York Mills peddles out. Everything you post is a lie, trying to deflect and say you only lied about 12 cc's just proves how stupid you are. The fact is you lied about talking to a test rider, lied about the test rider telling you info on the new engine, and lied about the size of the new engine. Along with all the other lies you continuously post on here. I've posted just a tiny fraction of the bullshit you spew, and only the most recent of that. Several people have told you to put up or shut up, and post some proof. You supposedly went on some super duper VIP tour of the factory, and had countless chances to take pics to prove you weren't lying about stamping tunnels, or any of the other bs, yet not one single oz of evidence you have a clue what you are talking about. If you spent 1/10th the time you waste stalking me, on fact checking, maybe you wouldn't look like such a lying asshole all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, krom said: Everything you post is a lie, trying to deflect and say you only lied about 12 cc's just proves how stupid you are. The fact is you lied about talking to a test rider, lied about the test rider telling you info on the new engine, and lied about the size of the new engine. Along with all the other lies you continuously post on here. I've posted just a tiny fraction of the bullshit you spew, and only the most recent of that. Several people have told you to put up or shut up, and post some proof. You supposedly went on some super duper VIP tour of the factory, and had countless chances to take pics to prove you weren't lying about stamping tunnels, or any of the other bs, yet not one single oz of evidence you have a clue what you are talking about. If you spent 1/10th the time you waste stalking me, on fact checking, maybe you wouldn't look like such a lying asshole all the time Thanks Lucy. Maybe put me on ignore, as I tell the truth, and you cant handle it. I took minimum photos because of the amazing people I met. It was for me. Not a pile of dog shit in New York Mills NY. You are a fucking loser, but Merry Christmas, asshat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: Thanks Lucy. Maybe put me on ignore, as I tell the truth, and you cant handle it. I took minimum photos because of the amazing people I met. It was for me. Not a pile of dog shit in New York Mills NY. You are a fucking loser, but Merry Christmas, asshat! exactly, nothing but more lies and bullshit. You've never told the truth and never been right about a single one of your claims. You don't even know what "all" means 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, krom said: exactly, nothing but more lies and bullshit. You've never told the truth and never been right about a single one of your claims. You don't even know what "all" means Nor do I care what comes out of your mouth. All knows I know more about Cat stuff than the loser from New York Mills NY. I am comfortable in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: Nor do I care what comes out of your mouth. All knows I know more about Cat stuff than the loser from New York Mills NY. I am comfortable in that. I love when you say stupid shit Jimmy, it does make laugh..😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Nor do I care what comes out of your mouth. All knows I know more about Cat stuff than the loser from New York Mills NY. I am comfortable in that. speaking of lies, your "sold out" dealer has more catalysts on their website Edited December 12, 2023 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, krom said: speaking of lies, your "sold out" dealer has more catalysts on their website Not my dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Not my dealer? Out of curiosity, what name did you go by on HCS? Did you ever change it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 hours ago, krom said: god you are an idiot.. look at market share and sleds sold.. Maybe over the last 3 years combined they built that many yami.. Or last year all brands combined they built 8k sleds, but they haven't built 8k ac sleds since textron took over and went pre order only. last year they built close to the same number of units for brp as for ac Info from someone who gets paid to know.... If you use 125,000 (rounded up to make a whole number) world wide unit number the ism published for 2023, and go by skidoo and Polaris market share claims they have thrown out there leaves about 9,000 left to be produced by Yamaha and cat. Add in the tiaga’s and probably some Russian and skandnavina sled we have never herd of it would drop that level even more for cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Not greg b said: If you use 125,000 (rounded up to make a whole number) world wide unit number the ism published for 2023, and go by skidoo and Polaris market share claims they have thrown out there leaves about 9,000 left to be produced by Yamaha and cat. Add in the tiaga’s and probably some Russian and skandnavina sled we have never herd of it would drop that level even more for cat. Just stating true numbers. Right from the factory. Except or not. Could care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Out of curiosity, what name did you go by on HCS? Did you ever change it? It changed every time he was Banned, The first time I dealt with him it was "Jim Ramstad" An alias he said was an area politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Not greg b said: If you use 125,000 (rounded up to make a whole number) world wide unit number the ism published for 2023, and go by skidoo and Polaris market share claims they have thrown out there leaves about 9,000 left to be produced by Yamaha and cat. Add in the tiaga’s and probably some Russian and skandnavina sled we have never herd of it would drop that level even more for cat. Yup, the math is easy, and the numbers come out right where I've been saying they are for the last couple years 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: Just making up shit, and lying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, krom said: Yup, the math is easy, and the numbers come out right where I've been saying they are for the last couple years Way past your bedtime. I will continue to tell the truth, regardless of your brain damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, airflite1 said: It changed every time he was Banned, The first time I dealt with him it was "Jim Ramstad" An alias he said was an area politician. Just another lie.. Who else is so smart that they use their full name and email address as an "alias" Edited December 12, 2023 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Way past your bedtime. I will continue to tell lies, and show off my brain damage. The official industry sales numbers show you are a lying sack of shit, Then there is the fact that everyone here has been watching you lie and be proven wrong constantly for years.. Edited December 12, 2023 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, krom said: The official industry sales numbers show you are a lying sack of shit, Then there is the fact that everyone here has been watching you lie and be proven wrong constantly for years, and years.. Again with the Lucy shit. Getting old you weirdo. I only state facts and words from whom I trust, over a guy (assuming) from the lower level, New York Mills, NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, krom said: Just another lie.. Who else is so smart that they use their full name and email address as an "alias" I never had the urge to Google it before, his stupidity knows no bounds...😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, krom said: Yup, the math is easy, and the numbers come out right where I've been saying they are for the last couple years Weird how math works. Also when industry groups claim “sold” it is delivered to a dealer not the end user as the manufacturers don’t sell direct. A lot of people think that’s what are actually retailed and it isn’t. The actual amount of sleds retailed is probably less than 100k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Weird how math works. Also when industry groups claim “sold” it is delivered to a dealer not the end user as the manufacturers don’t sell direct. A lot of people think that’s what are actually retailed and it isn’t. The actual amount of sleds retailed is probably less than 100k If it makes it to a dealer, it's sold. How fucking shit stupid are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: If it makes it to a dealer, it's sold. How fucking shit stupid are you? If it's sold, then why are rebates offered in slow years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, airflite1 said: If it's sold, then why are rebates offered in slow years? Cat does not, and has not for years. Edited December 12, 2023 by ZR6000RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: If it makes it to a dealer, it's sold. How fucking shit stupid are you? You ever heard of carry over? And if it is on a floor plan subsidized by a manufacturer it’s a liability. It’s literally what killed cat and textron come around. 18% interest adds up fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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