Dave Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, SnowRider said: How cute - Momo and Son of Momo each other in the thread And MN Momo wonders why he is a forum joke Dude...you are by far the forums biggest joke...no one is even a close 2nd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: How cute - Momo and Son of Momo each other in the thread And MN Momo wonders why he is a forum joke and Taintrider you're the sites laughing hack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dave said: Dude...you are by far the forums biggest joke...no one is even a close 2nd. Classic Dunning Kruger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dave said: Dude...you are by far the forums biggest joke...no one is even a close 2nd. But the democrat party tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You're simply too stupid to discuss science with Ok I get it you want to avoid a debate when it comes to polar Ice caps . so how about a discussion of the science behind polling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: Ok I get it you want to avoid a debate when it comes to polar Ice caps . so how about a discussion of the science behind polling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted May 9, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Us regulating the dirty industries out of the country doesn't help the world long term..... If anything by moving these industries out they are alot dirtier for the globe. Take mining for elements that are mined that go into windmills and solar panels.... Instead of mining those elements here in a sensible and enviromental conscience manner we let third countries mine those element and dump there pollution into the Oceans, and Air. We then pay for it enviromentally. EPA is just a country thing and not a global looking organization..... What happens when we clean up our act it just shift the pollution to a third world country that could care less about the enviroment and pollute worse then we would making the same items... EPA is just a smoke and mirror organization as all the pollution we eliminate comes back 10 fold at us from developing shit holes.. Edited May 9, 2017 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 well snowrider no come back yet we can all see you are currently viewing this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backdoor Rider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, SnowRider said: At the EPA I'm sure the Trumpers like Ben, Moto, and others think Hillary would have done the same thing Washington (CNN)The Environmental Protection Agency dismissed half the scientists who serve on a science review board that plays a crucial role in the work the EPA does, CNN has learned Monday. The EPA relies heavily on the scientific guidance of the group when it comes to air and water quality when making policy decisions. An EPA spokesman told CNN there are a total of 18 positions on this particular advisory board, and nine of those scientists were not renewed following the end of their three-year term. There is a notable ideological shift at the agency under the Trump administration and EPA head Scott Pruitt. Some in the scientific community say the dismissal of such a large number of scientists from the EPA's Board of Scientific Counselors is further evidence of that. http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/politics/epa-scott-pruitt-board/index.html Interesting read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Backdoor Rider said: Interesting read yeah not buying the new dupe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Ez ryder said: we are waiting on your accurate scientific models for 10 15 or 20 yrs back . MN momo is so fucking stupid is not a acceptable come back from a road scholar like your self . we await your findings You aren't going to believe anything anyone finds regarding global warming, so why bother linking any scientific models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: You aren't going to believe anything anyone finds regarding global warming, so why bother linking any scientific models so do you want to discuss the ice caps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 9, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Us regulating the dirty industries out of the country doesn't help the world long term..... If anything by moving these industries out they are alot dirtier for the globe. Take mining for elements that are mined that go into windmills and solar panels.... Instead of mining those elements here in a sensible and enviromental conscience manner we let third countries mine those element and dump there pollution into the Oceans, and Air. We then pay for it enviromentally. EPA is just a country thing and not a global looking organization..... What happens when we clean up our act it just shift the pollution to a third world country that could care less about the enviroment and pollute worse then we would making the same items... EPA is just a smoke and mirror organization as all the pollution we eliminate comes back 10 fold at us from developing shit holes.. EPA is just a country thing.....no kidding...really? I suppose it was smoke and mirrors that cleaned up the numerous lakes and rivers all over this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: so do you want to discuss the ice caps And how the Antarctic has gained ice sure, and then we can discuss the shrinking glacial ice and the thinning of the Arctic ice. I'll lead off with the Antarctic. https://insideclimatenews.org/news/31052016/why-antarctica-sea-ice-level-growing-while-arctic-glaciers-melts-climate-change-global-warming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: Us regulating the dirty industries out of the country doesn't help the world long term..... If anything by moving these industries out they are alot dirtier for the globe. Take mining for elements that are mined that go into windmills and solar panels.... Instead of mining those elements here in a sensible and enviromental conscience manner we let third countries mine those element and dump there pollution into the Oceans, and Air. We then pay for it enviromentally. EPA is just a country thing and not a global looking organization..... What happens when we clean up our act it just shift the pollution to a third world country that could care less about the enviroment and pollute worse then we would making the same items... EPA is just a smoke and mirror organization as all the pollution we eliminate comes back 10 fold at us from developing shit holes.. The Paris climate accord was signed by many, China and India have acknowledged they major issues with greenhouse emissions and are taking action. Tillerson and Ivanka are recommending that Trump sticks with the agreement http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/07/ivanka-trump-to-head-review-of-u-s-role-in-paris-climate-change-agreement/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted May 9, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: EPA is just a country thing.....no kidding...really? I suppose it was smoke and mirrors that cleaned up the numerous lakes and rivers all over this country. if they thought globally and protected the global enviroment we would be better off as our technics for pollution control are better then say china or some third world country that is trying to break into the market. So lets stiffle industry an allow them to go overseas where they can pollute their ass off and we still buy what they are producing.` What I am saying if you want to sell a widget here that country of manufacture must meet or exceed our enviromental regs to be able to sell. The enviromental protection agency should be protecting the enviroment. Edited May 9, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 hours ago, BOHICA said: if they thought globally and protected the global enviroment we would be better off as our technics for pollution control are better then say china or some third world country that is trying to break into the market. So lets stiffle industry an allow them to go overseas where they can pollute their ass off and we still buy what they are producing.` What I am saying if you want to sell a widget here that country of manufacture must meet or exceed our enviromental regs to be able to sell. The enviromental protection agency should be protecting the enviroment. See the Paris agreement, it's global...................Tillerson and Ivanka support it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 9, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 EZHEAT - explain the simple picture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 9, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) EZHEAT - I don't expect you to understand In short - you're riding a 3 year upswing in a 9 year cycle There’s another measurement that allows researchers to analyze how the ice cap evolves: multi-year ice "area," which discards areas of open water among ice floes and focuses exclusively on the regions of the Arctic Ocean that are completely covered by multi-year ice. Sea ice area is always smaller than sea ice extent, and it gives scientists the information needed to estimate the total volume of ice in the Arctic Ocean. Comiso found that multi-year ice area is shrinking even faster than multi-year ice extent, by -17.2 percent per decade. Comiso compared the evolution of the extent and area of multi-year ice over time, and confirmed that its decline has accelerated during the last decade, in part because of the dramatic decreases of 2008 and 2012. He also detected a periodic nine-year cycle, where sea ice extent would first grow for a few years, and then shrink until the cycle started again. This cycle is reminiscent of one occurring on the opposite pole, known as the Antarctic Circumpolar Wave, which has been related to the El Niño-Southern Oscillation atmospheric pattern. If the nine-year Arctic cycle were to be confirmed, it might explain the slight recovery of the sea ice cover in the three years after it hit its historical minimum in 2008, Comiso said. https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/thick-melt.html What do scientists know - gotta believe someone funded by big oil to get the real answers Edited May 9, 2017 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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