spin_dry Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Damn right!!! Fuck Russia and China. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/07/europe/turkey-ukraine-nato-membership-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Damn right!!! Fuck Russia and China. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/07/europe/turkey-ukraine-nato-membership-intl/index.html Sure add another corrupt country to suck money through nato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 11 hours ago, toslow said: Sure add another corrupt country to suck money through nato Thing is NATO has been bled dry. Russia and China would fuck them up hard in this type of war end result is Russia still wins but it will take longer and be way more dead people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Three more NATO members, just what Russia was going for when they started their "special military" blunder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 The US and NATO keep proving Putin to be right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Turkey was going to be one of the NATO holdouts. Seems they have come around. I was hoping the support given, by allies, after the earthquake would show them who their “friends” are. As many faults as NATO has, it’s still better to have the alliance, and the power and resources it can yield, than not. No single country can stand alone against the new axis of evil. Fuck you China and Russia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ACE said: Thing is NATO has been bled dry. Russia and China would fuck them up hard in this type of war end result is Russia still wins but it will take longer and be way more dead people We could have simply allowed Germany to roll over Europe in WW2. Britain could only hold out for so long. The net result would have been a fascist dictator and a communist country controlling half the planet. Russia and China do not have to win. Personally, I chose to fight…even if I’d have to re-muster and wear the uniform again. Sheep can lay down and wait to be eaten. There are a few ewes and rams ahead that will get eaten first, so I’m good for a bit. Edited July 8, 2023 by Voodoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Voodoo said: We could have simply allowed Germany to roll over Europe in WW2. Britain could only hold out for so long. The net result would have been a fascist dictator and a communist country controlling half the planet. Russia and China do not have to win. Personally, I chose to fight…even if I’d have to re-muster and wear the uniform again. Sheep can lay down and wait to be eaten. There are a few ewes and rams ahead that will get eaten first, so I’m good for a bit. You… aren’t fighting anything. You’re just using a currently popular virtue signal to fluff yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Lay back down sheep. I spent 10 years with the CF training to war fight in both Afghanistan and in the arctic, and I am pretty good at it. If truly needed I’m both competent and committed. You? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Voodoo said: Lay back down sheep. I spent 10 years with the CF training to war fight in both Afghanistan and in the arctic, and I am pretty good at it. If truly needed I’m both competent and committed. You? So you’ve never actually fought a war? So I was right Virtue signalling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Yes, I have not fought a war. Few have, before it actually happens. I at least have stepped up and got trained. I’ve spent many hours, weeks, months serving my country. Much have I sacrificed, without the ultimate sacrifice. You? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Voodoo said: Yes, I have not fought a war. Few have, before it actually happens. I at least have stepped up and got trained. I’ve spent many hours, weeks, months serving my country. Much have I sacrificed, without the ultimate sacrifice. You? It's been well established here that only service in a war is worthy of acknowledgement. 16 years is a waste of time if you never heard a shot fired in anger, regardless if there was a war at the time of not. Get used to it. I have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Yes, I have not fought a war. Few have, before it actually happens. I at least have stepped up and got trained. I’ve spent many hours, weeks, months serving my country. Much have I sacrificed, without the ultimate sacrifice. You? Nope. Not a Military guy and have zero desire to put myself in danger to protect imperialism grifts like Biden and Trudeau are doing go join the front lines for Ukraine where they’re feeding young untrained people enough liquor until the have the balls to attack the Russian defensive and get blown to bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, ACE said: Nope. Not a Military guy and have zero desire to put myself in danger to protect imperialism grifts like Biden and Trudeau are doing go join the front lines for Ukraine where they’re feeding young untrained people enough liquor until the have the balls to attack the Russian defensive and get blown to bits I too can see the bigger picture of imperialism and WTF. Sometimes one must weigh both the bad and the good. I wish it were black or white It is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Snake said: It's been well established here that only service in a war is worthy of acknowledgement. 16 years is a waste of time if you never heard a shot fired in anger, regardless if there was a war at the time of not. Get used to it. I have.... Guess it the same state side.. My service here means nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Voodoo said: Guess it the same state side.. My service here means nothing For the cunts anyway. I’m still be gonna be good on the machine gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Voodoo said: I too can see the bigger picture of imperialism and WTF. Sometimes one must weigh both the bad and the good. I wish it were black or white It is not. What’s the bad side of Russia annexing the Russian side of Ukraine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Voodoo said: For the cunts anyway. I’m still be gonna be good on the machine gun. I finally found a bunch of mags for my high point 9mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 It’s been well over a year and Russia has yet to take Kiev. They tried and it was a disaster. How long did it take for the US to run roughshod on Baghdad? US > Russia/China NATO > space aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Guess it the same state side.. My service here means nothing I taught all aspect of infantry for over 10 years. I taught basic rifle marksmanship, hand grenades, US weapons (.45 through .50 cal, LAW). I was in the 24th Inf Div (Mech) which was a Rapid Deployment Force (home to in the air within 24 hours), and served in a field artillery regiment in Germany assigned to defend the Fulda Gap from the Russians during the cold war. It means nothing because deterrence worked. Meh... all for nothing. I got used to it........ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Voodoo said: Yes, I have not fought a war. Few have, before it actually happens. I at least have stepped up and got trained. I’ve spent many hours, weeks, months serving my country. Much have I sacrificed, without the ultimate sacrifice. You? Your government is lying to you. If anyone is the sheep it's you who can't see you're being used and your life means nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Your government is lying to you. If anyone is the sheep it's you who can't see you're being used and your life means nothing. That’s the biggest thing. These lives mean nothing to a lot of people the US equipped Ukraine yet again for a major counter offensive and all that happened was a lot of young Ukrainians died. Again. so tell me. Russia annexes the Russian side of Ukraine. What changes and why does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, ACE said: That’s the biggest thing. These lives mean nothing to a lot of people the US equipped Ukraine yet again for a major counter offensive and all that happened was a lot of young Ukrainians died. Again. so tell me. Russia annexes the Russian side of Ukraine. What changes and why does it matter? I am totally against this war as well, but what was the problem with Hitler taking Poland? Why was it necessary to drive the Nazi's out of North Africa? You can move away from neighbors every year, but at some point you run out of places to move to. Would you prefer to be bordered by Ukraine, or Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Snake said: I am totally against this war as well, but what was the problem with Hitler taking Poland? Why was it necessary to drive the Nazi's out of North Africa? You can move away from neighbors every year, but at some point you run out of places to move to. Would you prefer to be bordered by Ukraine, or Russia? Well Ukraine did use cluster bombs against Russians in Donbass in 2014 so yah let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Well Ukraine did use cluster bombs against Russians in Donbass in 2014 so yah let them. I wouldn’t be too kind against someone invading my country either. 17 minutes ago, ACE said: the US equipped Ukraine yet again for a major counter offensive and all that happened was a lot of young Ukrainians died. Again. And Russians. Hopefully they’ll leave soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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