Ted Cruz introduces "EL CHAPO Act" to pay for the wall

[Momorider 10,532]

$14B in asset  seized

https://www.axios.com/ted-cruz-introduces-el-chapo-act-to-pay-for-the-wall-2378374826.html

[Anler 9,751]

Brilliant conservative solution to pay bills. STEAL the money. How much you wanna bet they go after the legal pot stores in states and get the money? This is a bad door to open. 

[Snoslinger 1,525]

where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard.

[Momorider 10,532]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard.

100% for over two years

[racinfarmer 5,208]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard.

Government coffers, even if you are innocent, you still have to fight to get it back.  

[Anler 9,751]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard.

Many states are already doing this. They will let the drugs flow in, let them be sold and then hijack the money when it is shipped out. New laws allow them to keep seized money. Has nothing to do with public safety and the prevention of drug abuse, its all about the cash...

[Snoslinger 1,525]

Just now, racinfarmer said:

Government coffers, even if you are innocent, you still have to fight to get it back.  

right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this.

 

[Snoslinger 1,525]

Just now, Anler said:

Many states are already doing this. They will let the drugs flow in, let them be sold and then hijack the money when it is shipped out. New laws allow them to keep seized money. Has nothing to do with public safety and the prevention of drug abuse, its all about the cash...

yep.

[f7ben 7,225]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this.

 

that is how a debt based economy works on every level ......every single portion of our economy is driven by robbing peter to pay paul  

[Snoslinger 1,525]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

that is how a debt based economy works on every level ......every single portion of our economy is driven by robbing peter to pay paul  

true.

[Momorider 10,532]

3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this.

 

Yah me and Cruz wrote the law great idea eh Snot????

Need I post it again for over two fucking years about everything

[Snoslinger 1,525]

this will be trump's strategy to tell everyone mexico is paying the for the wall. trumpsters like momo will believe him.

[Momorider 10,532]

Just now, Snoslinger said:

this will be trump's strategy to tell everyone mexico is paying the for the wall. trumpsters like momo will believe him.

for over 2 years about everything

[Ebsell 521]

So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. 

[Momorider 10,532]

2 minutes ago, Ebsell said:

So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. 

Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile

[Ebsell 521]

Just now, Momorider said:

Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile

It ain't the Government paying for it is it. 

[Momorider 10,532]

Just now, Ebsell said:

It ain't the Government paying for it is it. 

Government generates no money its always rate payers money you imbecile

[Anler 9,751]

Just now, Ebsell said:

So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. 

Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for  unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? 

[Ebsell 521]

Just now, Momorider said:

Government generates no money its always rate payers money you imbecile

The President of Mexico said he wasn't paying for no wall. Guess he was right. 

[Anler 9,751]

2 minutes ago, Ebsell said:

It ain't the Government paying for it is it. 

Its the users who are paying for it. 

[Anler 9,751]

4 minutes ago, Momorider said:

Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile

Not quite as stupid as you... 

[f7ben 7,225]

2 minutes ago, Anler said:

Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for  unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? 

bravo sir

[Ebsell 521]

1 minute ago, Anler said:

Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for  unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? 

The US Government is going to do whatever it wants. Same as always, after all they are basically the biggest crime syndicate in the world 

[Momorider 10,532]

1 minute ago, Anler said:

Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for  unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? 

I don't know about there but courts here have victim surcharges on all prosecution and fines and that is what seized counterfeit assets and other proceeds of crime fund, victim restitution you Nazi Pig Dog ignoramus  

[Anler 9,751]

Just now, Ebsell said:

The US Government is going to do whatever it wants. Same as always, after all they are basically the biggest crime syndicate in the world 

Well you are right, however as citizens we SHOULD be outraged. The govt can make criminals out of anyone whos stuff they want. That is NOT what our govt was founded upon in fact that is the exact OPPOSITE of what our republic was found upon. We may as well proclaim a king and let the law be whatever they say it is.