Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 Even heard George Stephanopolis quote this poll Sunday morning. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-23/despite-historically-low-approval-ratings-only-2-trump-voters-regret-their-decision Among Americans who say they voted in the 2016 election, 46 percent say they voted for Hillary Clinton and 43 percent for Trump, very close to the 2-point margin in the actual popular vote results. However, while Trump would retain almost all of his support if the election were held again today (96 percent), fewer of Clinton's supporters say they’d stick with her (85 percent), producing a 40-43 percent Clinton-Trump result in this hypothetical re-do among self-reported 2016 voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 If Trump ran against anyone at all aside from Hillary he would lose every single state. That should tell you something about Trump and Hillary and why they were our choices 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: If Trump ran against anyone at all aside from Hillary he would lose every single state. That should tell you something about Trump and Hillary and why they were our choices Trump would have beat Sanders as the minority vote would have stayed home in large numbers. Edited April 24, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Even heard George Stephanopolis quote this poll Sunday morning. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-23/despite-historically-low-approval-ratings-only-2-trump-voters-regret-their-decision Among Americans who say they voted in the 2016 election, 46 percent say they voted for Hillary Clinton and 43 percent for Trump, very close to the 2-point margin in the actual popular vote results. However, while Trump would retain almost all of his support if the election were held again today (96 percent), fewer of Clinton's supporters say they’d stick with her (85 percent), producing a 40-43 percent Clinton-Trump result in this hypothetical re-do among self-reported 2016 voters. Yeah. Saw this report this weekend. I wonder if Dems are taking any notice (yet). Sure doesn't appear that way. 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: If Trump ran against anyone at all aside from Hillary he would lose every single state. That should tell you something about Trump and Hillary and why they were our choices Oh, it could've always been worse. But we'll never know. Although, it's hard to believe the Dems could have found anybody worse than Hillary. I even think Pelosi would have done better. And OH BOY! And remember, yhe "R's sure as fuck didn't pick Trump. The citizens did and much to a lot of the chagrin of the establishment R's. But, they let democracy rule. The Dems, however, went another way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/24/trump-slams-pollsters-as-survey-buries-sustained-popularity-over-clinton.html It was a Washington Post/ABC News Poll even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Yeah. Saw this report this weekend. I wonder if Dems are taking any notice (yet). Sure doesn't appear that way. Oh, it could've always been worse. But we'll never know. Although, it's hard to believe the Dems could have found anybody worse than Hillary. I even think Pelosi would have done better. And OH BOY! And remember, yhe "R's sure as fuck didn't pick Trump. The citizens did and much to a lot of the chagrin of the establishment R's. But, they let democracy rule. The Dems, however, went another way. actually it was Hillary that picked Trump ....the voters were just easily manipulated as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGNHL Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, Highmark said: Trump would have beat Sanders as the minority vote would have stayed home in large numbers. Yeah I'm sure they were much more motivated voting for a 70 year old rich white woman compared to a 78 year old white dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: actually it was Hillary that picked Trump ....the voters were just easily manipulated as usual You are giving the Dem party way too much credit. I mean WAYYYYYY too much. They've been a train wreck since they've been overdosing on their own kool-aid about 4-5 years ago flowing heavily into their cups by the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, Highmark said: Trump would have beat Sanders as the minority vote would have stayed home in large numbers. Yeah and you say I'm out of touch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Who did these polls pick to win again? Overwhelmingly even..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: Yeah and you say I'm out of touch... Sanders was still a white Jewish man in the eyes of many minorities. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-was-on-the-2016-ballotand-he-underperformed_us_5852fbbce4b06ae7ec2a3cb7 Of course, this narrative ignores the facts—that despite Clinton’s supposed flaws, she easily defeated Sanders in the primary via the pledged delegate count, that Sanders inability to convince minority voters doomed his campaign for the nomination, and that the attempt to use superdelegates to override the popular vote was an undemocratic power grab. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/business/economy/why-sanders-trails-clinton-among-minority-voters.html?_r=0 Asked during a January debate why he trailed Hillary Clinton so badly among minority voters, Senator Bernie Sanders said he would gain ground once those voters became familiar with his track record and agenda on the economy and criminal justice. Two months later and on the eve of another important primary voting day, Mr. Sanders remains on the wrong side of a yawning gap among African-Americans even as his performance among whites has been impressive. One important reason for this may be that African-Americans have experienced somewhat more favorable economic trends in recent years. While still worse off than whites, African-Americans have seen their jobless rate fall a little further than whites have, relative to a prerecession average. Furthermore, the decline has been faster for African-Americans in the last year. The economist Robert J. Shapiro recently measured the income growth that people experience as they age. He found that, on average in 2013 and 2014 (the most recent data available), incomes for blacks in their 30s, 40s and 50s grew more rapidly than for whites in the same age group. Older people, who strongly support Mrs. Clinton, have also seen income gains relative to other groups since the recession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Sanders was still a white Jewish man in the eyes of many minorities. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-was-on-the-2016-ballotand-he-underperformed_us_5852fbbce4b06ae7ec2a3cb7 Of course, this narrative ignores the facts—that despite Clinton’s supposed flaws, she easily defeated Sanders in the primary via the pledged delegate count, that Sanders inability to convince minority voters doomed his campaign for the nomination, and that the attempt to use superdelegates to override the popular vote was an undemocratic power grab. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/business/economy/why-sanders-trails-clinton-among-minority-voters.html?_r=0 Asked during a January debate why he trailed Hillary Clinton so badly among minority voters, Senator Bernie Sanders said he would gain ground once those voters became familiar with his track record and agenda on the economy and criminal justice. Two months later and on the eve of another important primary voting day, Mr. Sanders remains on the wrong side of a yawning gap among African-Americans even as his performance among whites has been impressive. One important reason for this may be that African-Americans have experienced somewhat more favorable economic trends in recent years. While still worse off than whites, African-Americans have seen their jobless rate fall a little further than whites have, relative to a prerecession average. Furthermore, the decline has been faster for African-Americans in the last year. The economist Robert J. Shapiro recently measured the income growth that people experience as they age. He found that, on average in 2013 and 2014 (the most recent data available), incomes for blacks in their 30s, 40s and 50s grew more rapidly than for whites in the same age group. Older people, who strongly support Mrs. Clinton, have also seen income gains relative to other groups since the recession. Well you are citing "polls" and pretty much all of them showed Sanders beating Trump. Sanders resonated far better with minorities than Hillary did and his crowds were every bit as big as Trump's. Hillary had no crowds. Plus Bernie wasn't a narcissistic asshole like Trump is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Well you are citing "polls" and pretty much all of them showed Sanders beating Trump. Sanders resonated far better with minorities than Hillary did and his crowds were every bit as big as Trump's. Hillary had no crowds. Plus Bernie wasn't a narcissistic asshole like Trump is. Not according to primary voting. Clinton won 76% to 23%. Huge difference. http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ Edited April 24, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Well you are citing "polls" and pretty much all of them showed Sanders beating Trump. Sanders resonated far better with minorities than Hillary did and his crowds were every bit as big as Trump's. Hillary had no crowds. Plus Bernie wasn't a narcissistic asshole like Trump is. Bernie would have crushed Trump .....Trump is a fucking cartoon character. A fucking sideshow clown. Bernie was at least a serious candidate with real solutions to actual problems. Some of which I agreed with and some I didnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Not according to primary voting. fraud has a way of interfering with results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 So now all of a sudden polls mean something to Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ebsell said: So now all of a sudden polls mean something to Highmark Because they mean so much to the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: Bernie would have crushed Trump .....Trump is a fucking cartoon character. A fucking sideshow clown. Bernie was at least a serious candidate with real solutions to actual problems. Some of which I agreed with and some I didnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, Snake said: We will build a wall , a tremendous wall 100' high ....and mexico will pay for it !!!!!!!!!!!111111111111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Trump could beat the Pope! Hail, Hail Hailstone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: We will build a wall , a tremendous wall 100' high ....and mexico will pay for it !!!!!!!!!!!111111111111 the best wall, bigly #fakenews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 24, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 24, 2017 Don't look at the polls look at the minority results of the primary. Sanders was severely lacking minority support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It wont be long before Trump starts wearing a military uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 So most thinking people are looking at the dem bench for the Potus run in 2020 , who stands out ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Don't look at the polls look at the minority results of the primary. Sanders was severely lacking minority support. so was Hillary ....they didnt turn out at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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