Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) One was President and can declassify anything they want. ABA Legal Fact Check posted Oct. 17 explains, legal guidelines support his contention that presidents have broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office. https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/ One was Vice President and broke the law. Edited January 10, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 How much did Biden (10% for the big guy) grift off those docs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Highmark said: One was President and can declassify anything they want. ABA Legal Fact Check posted Oct. 17 explains, legal guidelines support his contention that presidents have broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office. https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/ One was Vice President and broke the law. states in section 1.3 that “The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register…” Remarkably, the phrase “and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President,” which dramatically elevates the Vice President’s classification authority to that of the President, was added to the executive order in 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steve753 said: states in section 1.3 that “The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register…” Remarkably, the phrase “and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President,” which dramatically elevates the Vice President’s classification authority to that of the President, was added to the executive order in 2003 Totally depends on what the documents are. It states in section 1.3 that “The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by: (1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register…” Remarkably, the phrase “and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President,” which dramatically elevates the Vice President’s classification authority to that of the President, was added to the executive order in 2003. Prior to that, the Vice President only had classification authority comparable to that of an agency head, having been delegated such authority in a 1995 presidential order. So much for classification authority. What about declassification? Declassification authority is defined in Section 6.1(l) of E.O. 13292. It is granted to: “(1) the official who authorized the original classification…; (2) the originator’s current successor in function; (3) a supervisory official of either; or (4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official.” So the Vice President has authority to declassify anything that he himself classified. He also clearly has authority to declassify anything generated in the Office of the Vice President, which he supervises. But is the Vice President, like the President, “a supervisory official” with respect to other executive branch agencies such as the CIA? Did the 2003 amendment to the executive order which elevated the Vice President’s classification authority also grant him declassification authority comparable to the President’s? “The answer is not obvious,” said one executive branch expert on classification policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Another question is the NA's supposedly knew everything that Trump had that was missing. Its been 7 years and nobody knew anything about these documents in Biden's possession? Now before anyone claims because he had the right to have them why go thru the embarrassment of announcing it and returning them if that be the case? Edited January 10, 2023 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Does the National Register show Obama giving Biden the authorization to classify or not? Pretty simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 So much for his authority to declassify, nice try Schultz. 54 million from the CCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 He's returning them is all you need to know on whether or not he had the legal authority to possess them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Highmark said: He's returning them is all you need to know on whether or not he had the legal authority to possess them. You guys are beating each other over fucking grifters that don't give a shit about the average American and they all need to be tossed out of office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: You guys are beating each other over fucking grifters that don't give a shit about the average American and they all need to be tossed out of office. Honestly as bad as Biden is he pale's in comparison to Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted January 10, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 Pretty sure to 99% of the people the only difference is party affiliation. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: So much for his authority to declassify, nice try Schultz. 54 million from the CCP. Andy Biggs is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Honestly as bad as Biden is he pale's in comparison to Trudeau. That's on another whole level of stupid. Mainly supported by public sector unions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: Andy Biggs is wrong. No he isn't. Who the fuck is even trying to use that excuse other than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: No he isn't. Who the fuck is even trying to use that excuse other than you. Are you ever right about anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Are you ever right about anything? Who is using that as a reason for Biden, CNN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 What does the Biden laptop say? These donations came from the CCP after Biden announced he was gonna run for president. Don't think to hard sheep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Andy Biggs is wrong. Not completely. There is a difference on who can classify and declassify. Again if these documents were items Biden had the authority to declassify we would have never heard about it and they wouldn't be returning them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, Highmark said: Not completely. There is a difference on who can classify and declassify. Again if these documents were items Biden had the authority to declassify we would have never heard about it and they wouldn't be returning them. He really has no higher order thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Not completely. There is a difference on who can classify and declassify. Again if these documents were items Biden had the authority to declassify we would have never heard about it and they wouldn't be returning them. Nonetheless, not on the same level of what Trump did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Nonetheless, not on the same level of what Trump did. How? He was the President and can declassify anything he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Nonetheless, not on the same level of what Trump did. What did Trump do exactly? Keep sucking off Biden, pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 One is a political headache, the other high crime and treason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Let me know if they find secret documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 10, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, Highmark said: How? He was the President and can declassify anything he wants. 38 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: What did Trump do exactly? Keep sucking off Biden, pathetic. Unlike in Trump's case, Biden doesn't appear to have tried to assert ownership of the files, to obstruct their handover or make outlandish claims that he had previously declassified them based on an undisclosed private thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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