Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 24, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 oil refineries in Texas cut gasoline and diesel production on equipment failures, and heating and power prices surged on the losses. Oil and gas output from North Dakota to Texas suffered freeze-ins, cutting supplies. Some 1.5 million barrels of daily refining capacity along the U.S. Gulf Coast was shut due to the bitterly cold temperatures. The production losses are not expected to last, but they have lifted fuel prices. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/storm-cuts-us-oil-gas-power-output-sending-prices-higher-2022-12-23/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 What happens to solar when the sun isn't shining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Yet all the homes in my neighborhood today are warm because of natural gas. Couple burning wood but no many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 24, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, SkisNH said: What happens to solar when the sun isn't shining? 10 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said: Yet all the homes in my neighborhood today are warm because of natural gas. Couple burning wood but no many. Irrelevant to what Texas is experiencing…they have a shitty power grid that fails every winter. Edited December 24, 2022 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Irrelevant to what Texas is experiencing…they have a shitty power grid that fails every winter. It is clear to everyone that traditional power generation via coal, natural gas, nuclear etc are far more dependable than solar and wind. Edited December 24, 2022 by SkisNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 24, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, SkisNH said: I doesn't fail every winter it has failed since the great migration. It is clear to everyone that traditional power generation via coal, natural gas, nuclear etc are far more dependable than solar and wind. I understand that but the Texas Power Grid has issues that have nothing to do with solar and wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: I understand that but the Texas Power Grid has issues that have nothing to do with solar and wind. They have added capacity via renewables but haven't built tradional powerplants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted December 24, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Irrelevant to what Texas is experiencing…they have a shitty power grid that fails every winter. Didn't bohica just tell us texas now produces more with renewables than fossil fuels? Maybe they should start investing in infrastructure reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) How are they going to produce EV'S without billions of barrels of oil ? How will they extract cobalt from the mines without fuel? How will the slave driven children make it to the mines to work ?? Edited December 24, 2022 by The One 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 24, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) So 1.5 million barrels day of oil refining is shut off from cold weather, North Dakota oil shut down and you guys want to talk about solar? Edited December 24, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-rogan-podcast-guest-explains-heart-wrenching-source-electric-vehicle-iphone-batteries-viral-video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 24, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: They have added capacity via renewables but haven't built tradional powerplants... https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/29/texas-power-grid-winter-storm/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Sounds like the whole system was designed by engineers who didn't use some common sense in building all the infrastructure. If cold weather was to blame for the slowing down of the flow of natural gas, then someone during the design and building stages needs to answer some questions and figure out a way to pay for fixing their mistakes. But no, it'll come out of the consumer's pocket as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 12 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: Yet all the homes in my neighborhood today are warm because of natural gas. Couple burning wood but no many. Texas has an isolated power grid. They did so to keep the feds from meddling. Other than a meager 600 megawatts from a feed to the western states, they go it alone. This shut down was more having to do with equipment not functioning in cold weather than loss of power. Equipment isn’t winterized in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Texas has an isolated power grid. They did so to keep the feds from meddling. Other than a meager 600 megawatts from a feed to the western states, they go it alone. This shut down was more having to do with equipment not functioning in cold weather than loss of power. Equipment isn’t winterized in Texas. Looks like everything is normal in Texas during this cold snap. We have renewables to thank no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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