Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: the thing trumps got going for him is a lot of his supporters are incapable of critical thought so they will be lined right up behind him cheer leading these actions so he will just claim any opposition as #fakenews I think you would be surprised. The right is not nearly the war mongers they once were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: the thing trumps got going for him is a lot of his supporters are incapable of critical thought so they will be lined right up behind him cheer leading these actions so he will just claim any opposition as #fakenews But the "cheering" is coming from the Liberal MSM HARD this morning. I mean.....am I awake...or is this a dream/nightmare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I think you would be surprised. The right is not nearly the war mongers they once were. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: But the "cheering" is coming from the Liberal MSM HARD this morning. I mean.....am I awake...or is this a dream/nightmare? Maybe the cognitive dissonance will be too great this time? I don't see the kind of shit we saw around Bush's illegal war yet. YET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This. Some people are capable of learning from our past mistakes. There is a lot of reasons Trump won over working class American's and a anti war stance was one of them. Its their children going to war, not Barron Trump. There is no winning rather helping or attacking Muslims. NO WINNING. Edited April 7, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 what's fox news and other rww "news" saying? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Maybe the cognitive dissonance will be too great this time? I don't see the kind of shit we saw around Bush's illegal war yet. YET. And Saddam killed 100x's more women and children than Assad. Make no mistake the lefts love of this move is more anti Russia for their perception of Hillary's loss than doing it to protect women and children. Edited April 7, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: what's fox news and other rww "news" saying? I'm sure they love it along with the rest of the corporate media. Have we not figured out the game yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: what's fox news and other rww "news" saying? They are all saying the same thing. ALL on board with this action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: And Saddam killed 100x's more women and children than Assad. Make no mistake the lefts love of this move is more anti Russia for Hillary's loss than doing it to protect women and children. Please stop calling them, the 'left'. They're neoliberals, or just liberals if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Maybe the cognitive dissonance will be too great this time? I don't see the kind of shit we saw around Bush's illegal war yet. YET. Yep. 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Some people are capable of learning from our past mistakes. There is a lot of reasons Trump won over working class American's and a anti war stance was one of them. Its their children going to war, not Barron Trump. There is no winning rather helping or attacking Muslims. NO WINNING. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Please stop calling them, the 'left'. They're neoliberals, or just liberals if you wish. I call them what they call themselves. Sorry moto but Antifa and Communists are not "the left." They're Communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: They are all saying the same thing. ALL on board with this action. yep, so highmark's remarks about many trump supporters being against this is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: what's fox news and other rww "news" saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 yes analer. i know your theory on all this. just want to read noggin's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Please stop calling them, the 'left'. They're neoliberals, or just liberals if you wish. Yeah...you corrected me on that a while back. It makes sense. "Librulizm" is it's own religion distorting and destroying the Dem party. "Intellectually elite". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: I call them what they call themselves. Sorry moto but Antifa and Communists are not "the left." They're Communists. Don't call them what they call themselves, they're trying to reframe their actual ideology. Democratic socialists, anarchists, and Communists are all leftists. Liberals are not any of those things. All liberals fall in the authoritarian neoliberal quadrant. All true leftists fall in the libertarian collectivist quadrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: yep, so highmark's remarks about many trump supporters being against this is bullshit. I sometimes forget that what you liberals see on TV is reality for you....as long as you like what you are seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Yeah...you corrected me on that a while back. It makes sense. "Librulizm" is it's own religion distorting and destroying the Dem party. "Intellectually elite". It's the party of middle class white people. The cringiest of all demographics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: It's the party of middle class white people. The cringiest of all demographics I don't equate it to a certain demographic. More a mentality. Like I said, "religion". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Don't call them what they call themselves, they're trying to reframe their actual ideology. Democratic socialists, anarchists, and Communists are all leftists. Liberals are not any of those things. All liberals fall in the authoritarian neoliberal quadrant. All true leftists fall in the libertarian collectivist quadrant. I've said all along the true definition of a NeoCon is one of worldwide military presence (force our form of peace and govt on people) and a somewhat to very liberal economic policy at home. JFK, LBJ were the poster presidents of the movement. LBJ more so than JFK because at least he believed in reasonable taxes. I've never agree with the common labeling of some Republicans as Neocon's as their economic policy doesn't match it. Edited April 7, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I've said all along the true definition of a NeoCon is one of worldwide military presence and a somewhat to very liberal economic policy at home. JFK, LBJ were the poster presidents of the movement. LBJ more so than JFK because at least he believed in reasonable taxes. I've never agree with the common labeling of some Republicans as Neocon's as their economic policy doesn't match it. So Republicans don't support capitalism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I sometimes forget that what you liberals see on TV is reality for you....as long as you like what you are seeing. you really need to make up your mind on all this. you're one of those people on tv who are liking this move from trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: So Republicans don't support capitalism? Huh? Sure but support of capitalism at home does not make one economically a neocon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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