Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Agree on the sponsors are going to be miffed. These are both Factory sponsored teams; alot at stake and results will be used for marketing. I really feel for team 8 here, they ran a great program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladefever Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I really haven't followed the ID race. But an ID official or possibly 2 of them should have been at this fuel stop to control any BS from non participants. I think the guys racing have their minds and hands full. They might not have time to do crowd control and stay focused on their main goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The way the official DQ release reads: "The crew providing fuel made contact with the racer's snowmobiles" That does not sound like a case of random bystanders approaching to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Garth said: The way the official DQ release reads: "The crew providing fuel made contact with the racer's snowmobiles" That does not sound like a case of random bystanders approaching to help. We're they not pushing down on the rear of the sled to help burp it to get the last gallon in? Rules is rules unfortunately. Edited February 25, 2017 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That's exactly what they were doing. Worst part is that last gallon was not needed to cover the remaining distance to next checkpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladefever Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: We're they nor pushing down on the rear of the sled to help burp it to get the last gallon in? Rules is rules unfortunately. Were the refueling guys there to refill all the sleds. Or were these guys there to just refuel this one team? If they were ID refueling guy they should also know the rules. Edited February 25, 2017 by bladefever Changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, bladefever said: Were the refueling guys there to refill all the sleds. Or were these guys there to just refuel this one team? If they were ID refueling guy they should also know the rules. They were not refilling. They were at the back of the sled pushing down to help burp it and get it refilled faster. Apparently an issue with skidoos tank design. Sorry Puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 This is the only time in the race where refueling is allowed at a non designated location, teams support crew arranges to have fuel ready but cannot assst in the actual fueling. 120 miles between checkpoints Ruby and Tanana is the reason for this one exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladefever Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: They were not refilling. They were at the back of the sled pushing down to help burp it and get it refilled faster. Apparently an issue with skidoos tank design. Sorry Puzzle. So this guy or guys just happened to be standing at this refueling station. In the middle of Alaska with nothing better to do that day then burp this one team's sled? I don't buy that. These guys weren't part of the ID and this was the refueling station that they were to look after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's not a refueling station. Location determined by individual teams, they are to pre stage fuel, race sleds arrive and drivers fuel themselves. Support team to stand by providing no assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, bladefever said: So this guy or guys just happened to be standing at this refueling station. In the middle of Alaska with nothing better to do that day then burp this one team's sled? I don't buy that. These guys weren't part of the ID and this was the refueling station that they were to look after? There are pics of it. The team claim they were spectators and they were told to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladefever Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Should then be the responsibility of the ID race to have proper crowd control. Would hate to ride into that spot and have some clown put his hand on the back bumper and be disqualified for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Team 8 just rolled in behind 2nd place. One of the sleds has heavy damage to right front suspension. After all the effort at least they get to see the finish line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Puzzle look at all those fools wearing Tekvest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Wearing a TekVest in the Iron Dog likely makes sense. Wearing it on a groomed trail to the Sprucedale Hotel does not. The riders may well have been in communication with those guys. The important points are, apparently everyone does it, and does the punishment fit the crime? Especially when the rules are so poorly and vaguely written. Read 'em. The team who illegally obtained parts, installed them in an unauthorized area, and took a shortcut down Nome's roads..... was fined an hour and $400? Come on.... I'd feel for the riders, regardless of what team they're on. I'm not on an anti-Doo mission like Fuzzy. These guys were in second place two nights ago. To fix their damage and check in an hour+ ahead of the next team is unreal. They likely only ran today in the event of an overturn later...... but as of the official start, they were DQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 They were gonna, but felt the logistics of controlling Eskimos along a 2500 mile route might be tricky...... 1 hour ago, bladefever said: Should then be the responsibility of the ID race to have proper crowd control. Would hate to ride into that spot and have some clown put his hand on the back bumper and be disqualified for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hey Fuzzy..... half of the top ten finishers were on weak Doos. How on earth did those XRS bulkheads stay together over 2000 miles of Iron Dog? How many Sidewinders finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Garth Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 ID release said it was a team member, Tyson says spectator in the interview. Also claims race Marshall had vendetta from last year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Interesting that the entire field is behind them in support. Lots to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 A couple years back, a SX'er was Dq'ed when he fot tangled up over the moguls and couldn't get his sled started. He went around back to shift the rear around and one of the idiot volunteers grabbed the handle to try and help him out. Boom! Started right up....DQ. And it didn't matter how or why it happened. The racer is in charge and takes all responsibility for him and his vehicle. Tough break for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why should a racer be responsible for what bystanders do? Should the race organization not be responsible for security, crowd control, etc.? In any case, I'd imagine ultimately these guys will be handed their victory. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladefever Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zambroski said: A couple years back, a SX'er was Dq'ed when he fot tangled up over the moguls and couldn't get his sled started. He went around back to shift the rear around and one of the idiot volunteers grabbed the handle to try and help him out. Boom! Started right up....DQ. And it didn't matter how or why it happened. The racer is in charge and takes all responsibility for him and his vehicle. Tough break for sure. Sounds like your better to come in and drop kick everyone in sight.......... Better safe then sorry...... Edited February 26, 2017 by bladefever Changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted February 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Puzzleboy said: Hey Fuzzy..... half of the top ten finishers were on weak Doos. How on earth did those XRS bulkheads stay together over 2000 miles of Iron Dog? Aftermarket braces? 600cc limit is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psledhead Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Puzzleboy said: Hey Fuzzy..... half of the top ten finishers were on weak Doos. How on earth did those XRS bulkheads stay together over 2000 miles of Iron Dog? How many Sidewinders finished? Top ten; Cat; 2 Poo; 4 Doo; 4 Doesn't appear to be half are Doo's (DQ's don't count) No sign of any 600cc Sidewinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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