China installed 21.1 GW of offshore wind generation last year, almost comparable to 21 nuclear reactors

[spin_dry 2,846]

1 hour ago, irv said:

And the mental health expert gets duped yet again. Have anymore great stories, Spun dried? 

Wind turbines drip a little oil and the sites drama queen loses his shit. 

[Plissken 226]

1 hour ago, irv said:

Vegetable oil you say?  Never heard that before in my life but it's your story so I'm curious where you got that beauty from?

HOW MUCH OIL DOES IT TAKE TO LUBRICATE A WIND TURBINE?

Each wind turbine needs 80 gallons of oil as lubricant and we're not talking about vegetable oil, this is a PAO synthetic oil based on crude... 12,000 gallons of it. That oil needs to be replaced once a year. Feb 26, 2021

https://high-tech-guide.com/article/what-kind-of-oil-is-used-to-lubricate-wind-turbines

 

In recent years interest has grown for biodegradable and non-toxic lubricants, initially developed for applications with total loss or risk of leakage, in order to avoid the polluting effects on rivers, lakes and aquifers. In parallel, the concept also has increased of renewability applied to lubricants, hence the increased interest in the production of lubricants from vegetable esters.

3. Development

The biolubricants used in this project were based on high oleic sun flower oil (HOSO 83%).

3.1. Gear oil for gear boxes

The developing gear oil should have a viscosity of 320 mm2/s at 40°C.The 83% HOSO has a viscosity of about 40 mm2/s at 40°C.This involves the use of a thickener to allow us to increase the viscosity of the base fluid. Also employed are additives to meet the technical requirements (anti-oxidants, corrosion inhibitors, copper passivators, anti-wear, extreme pressure and anti-foam), in turn fulfilling Ecolabel demands for biodegradability and toxicity with the restrictions that this entails (limitations on the type and dosage of additives).

3.2 Grease for the slewing ring

From the view point of grease lubrication, the slewing ring of the wind turbine is characterised by:

• Having a low amplitude movement
• To be subjected to heavy loads
• To have upright tooth flanks
• Having a tendency to high corrosion

The necessary components have been defined for a fat with suitable properties for the application which also meets the requirements Ecolabel.

The result is a grade 2 grease with good adhesion to prevent it falling from the point of application, anticorrosive properties and an excellent result in trials when sprayed with water. Such a fat prototype is being tested now on the wind turbines at Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm.

Currently, after finishing the project, we are at the testing and demonstration phase of the operation where field tests being developed at the Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm with an oil for gearboxes and a grease for slewing rings.

https://www.sotaventogalicia.com/en/proyectos/non-toxic-biodegradable-and-renewable-lubricants-for-wind-turbines/

[Rigid1 8,108]

Geez, look at all these china/communist sympathizers on here, I had no idea you guys admire china and their  environmental practices so much!!!

[Rigid1 8,108]

49 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Wind turbines drip a little oil and the sites drama queen loses his shit. 

Just a drip???

Exelon says the fallen turbine held about 400 gallons of oil..

In another incident in November 2011, 1,000 litres of oil leaked from a turbine at the Clyde wind farm in Abington, Lanarkshire, resulting in an emergency clean-up operation..

Residents have documented oil leaks at over 40% of all turbines on the project. Now, they are voicing concerns voice concerns that oil leaks could contaminate the town’s only supply of drinking water.

 

https://stopthesethings.com/tag/wind-turbine-leaking-oil/

[airflite1 425]

33 minutes ago, Plissken said:

In recent years interest has grown for biodegradable and non-toxic lubricants, initially developed for applications with total loss or risk of leakage, in order to avoid the polluting effects on rivers, lakes and aquifers. In parallel, the concept also has increased of renewability applied to lubricants, hence the increased interest in the production of lubricants from vegetable esters.

3. Development

The biolubricants used in this project were based on high oleic sun flower oil (HOSO 83%).

3.1. Gear oil for gear boxes

The developing gear oil should have a viscosity of 320 mm2/s at 40°C.The 83% HOSO has a viscosity of about 40 mm2/s at 40°C.This involves the use of a thickener to allow us to increase the viscosity of the base fluid. Also employed are additives to meet the technical requirements (anti-oxidants, corrosion inhibitors, copper passivators, anti-wear, extreme pressure and anti-foam), in turn fulfilling Ecolabel demands for biodegradability and toxicity with the restrictions that this entails (limitations on the type and dosage of additives).

3.2 Grease for the slewing ring

From the view point of grease lubrication, the slewing ring of the wind turbine is characterised by:

• Having a low amplitude movement
• To be subjected to heavy loads
• To have upright tooth flanks
• Having a tendency to high corrosion

The necessary components have been defined for a fat with suitable properties for the application which also meets the requirements Ecolabel.

The result is a grade 2 grease with good adhesion to prevent it falling from the point of application, anticorrosive properties and an excellent result in trials when sprayed with water. Such a fat prototype is being tested now on the wind turbines at Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm.

Currently, after finishing the project, we are at the testing and demonstration phase of the operation where field tests being developed at the Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm with an oil for gearboxes and a grease for slewing rings.

https://www.sotaventogalicia.com/en/proyectos/non-toxic-biodegradable-and-renewable-lubricants-for-wind-turbines/

So it's still in early testing and development stage. 

[spin_dry 2,846]

1 minute ago, Rigid1 said:

Just a drip???

Exelon says the fallen turbine held about 400 gallons of oil..

In another incident in November 2011, 1,000 litres of oil leaked from a turbine at the Clyde wind farm in Abington, Lanarkshire, resulting in an emergency clean-up operation..

Residents have documented oil leaks at over 40% of all turbines on the project. Now, they are voicing concerns voice concerns that oil leaks could contaminate the town’s only supply of drinking water.

 

https://stopthesethings.com/tag/wind-turbine-leaking-oil/

A few gallons of oil vs quarter billion gallons from the deep water horizon oil spill.  

[Rigid1 8,108]

5 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

A few gallons of oil vs quarter billion gallons from the deep water horizon oil spill.  

Keep trying to down play your lack of critical thinking skills..

[spin_dry 2,846]

3 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

Keep trying to down play your lack of critical thinking skills..

It’s obvious that you know nothing of critical thinking. Leaking wind turbines.  

[Carlos Danger 3,264]

There was a plan to put in a bunch of wind turbines off the coast of Cape Cod to power most of the island. Unfortunately it was in the path of a sailboat owner who was not a very good sailor......you guessed it Ted Kennedy. Those things didn't go in till after his death.

[irv 5,313]

4 hours ago, Plissken said:

Don’t be mad just cause they are able to use biodegradable vegetable ester based lubricants in windmills, okay. 

 

2 hours ago, airflite1 said:

So it's still in early testing and development stage. 

I bet someone told them they do already and he bought it hook line and sinker just like he did with the original global warming lie.

[Plissken 226]

13 hours ago, irv said:

 

I bet someone told them they do already and he bought it hook line and sinker just like he did with the original global warming lie.

Alicia Silverstone is a vegan so odds are she’s probably very supportive of biodegradable gear oil.

 

https://www.schaefferoil.com/567-ecoshield.html

[irv 5,313]

18 hours ago, Plissken said:

Don’t be mad just cause they are able to use biodegradable vegetable ester based lubricants in windmills, okay. 

 

27 minutes ago, Plissken said:

Alicia Silverstone is a vegan so odds are she’s probably very supportive of biodegradable gear oil.

 

https://www.schaefferoil.com/567-ecoshield.html

Can you provide me one link where they use this vegetable oil currently in windmills today like you stated above? 

https://www.windpowerengineering.com/choosing-the-right-lubricant-for-todays-wind-turbines/

[Plissken 226]

1 hour ago, irv said:

 

Can you provide me one link where they use this vegetable oil currently in windmills today like you stated above? 

https://www.windpowerengineering.com/choosing-the-right-lubricant-for-todays-wind-turbines/

I already did, dippy.  But just for you I’ll post the relevant part again.  
 

Currently, over 90% of the lubricants used in Europe today are not biodegradable and are mainly based on mineral oil (non-renewable raw materials).

https://www.sotaventogalicia.com/en/proyectos/non-toxic-biodegradable-and-renewable-lubricants-for-wind-turbines/

So, for the math majors out there 100-90=10% of windmills in Europe currently use biolubes.  

[spin_dry 2,846]

1 hour ago, irv said:

 

Can you provide me one link where they use this vegetable oil currently in windmills today like you stated above? 

https://www.windpowerengineering.com/choosing-the-right-lubricant-for-todays-wind-turbines/

Who fucking cares? With the ridiculously small amount of oil that might leak from a wind turbine it’s all irrelevant. You actually try to be retarded. There can be no other explanation. No one is this fucking mindless and irrational. 

[Sleepr2 3,413]

18 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

There was a plan to put in a bunch of wind turbines off the coast of Cape Cod to power most of the island. Unfortunately it was in the path of a sailboat owner who was not a very good sailor......you guessed it Ted Kennedy. Those things didn't go in till after his death.

Stop picking on MCLiars hero!

[irv 5,313]

7 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Who fucking cares? With the ridiculously small amount of oil that might leak from a wind turbine it’s all irrelevant. You actually try to be retarded. There can be no other explanation. No one is this fucking mindless and irrational. 

Small amount of oil. And that's not talking about the cost of the friggin things, the wildlife they kill and what to do with them after their mediocre life. Yeah, they sure are "GREEN" 

Sorry to say, Spun, but you got gut hooked into this global warming/green energy scam like you did the vaccines. For an alleged mental health expert, I thought you'd be smarter? 

The Big Cover Up: Wind Industry Burying Millions of Toxic Turbine Blades In Landfills

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/05/13/the-big-cover-up-wind-industry-burying-millions-of-toxic-turbine-blades-in-landfills/ 

https://www.ketv.com/article/hundreds-of-old-wind-turbine-blades-in-field-near-sidney-ne/39271654# 

 

 

Edited June 19 by irv

[spin_dry 2,846]

1 minute ago, irv said:

Small amount of oil. And that's not talking about the cost of the friggin things, the wildlife they kill and what to do with them after their mediocre life. Yeah, they sure are "GREEN" 

Sorry to say, Spun, but you got gut hooked into this global warming/green energy scam like you did the vaccines. For an alleged mental health expert, I thought you'd be smarter? 

The Big Cover Up: Wind Industry Burying Millions of Toxic Turbine Blades In Landfills

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/05/13/the-big-cover-up-wind-industry-burying-millions-of-toxic-turbine-blades-in-landfills/ 

https://www.ketv.com/article/hundreds-of-old-wind-turbine-blades-in-field-near-sidney-ne/39271654# 

 

 

Booming economies like Texas and china aren’t listening to you.  

[irv 5,313]

7 hours ago, Plissken said:

I already did, dippy.  But just for you I’ll post the relevant part again.  
 

Currently, over 90% of the lubricants used in Europe today are not biodegradable and are mainly based on mineral oil (non-renewable raw materials).

https://www.sotaventogalicia.com/en/proyectos/non-toxic-biodegradable-and-renewable-lubricants-for-wind-turbines/

So, for the math majors out there 100-90=10% of windmills in Europe currently use biolubes.  

Funny, your article is the only one that even remotely talks about this. You know, the one where you said vegetable oil was already being used, and based on your article, despite theirs and your 10% usage already, I think that is a lie, unless 10% are the ones that are actually in the "test" phase? 

Nice try though. 

Currently, after finishing the project, we are at the testing and demonstration phase of the operation where field tests being developed at the Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm with an oil for gearboxes and a grease for slewing rings

This project has proposed the use of vegetable oils for the production of lubricating fluids in wind turbines, where the renewable source thereof together with its biodegradability and non-toxicity, can add value in the concept of clean energy.

At present, we are testing six selected products at this stage in our facilities at Sotavento Experimental Wind Farm

 

Edited June 19 by irv

[Ez ryder 8,013]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:32 PM, Plissken said:

BOOM!

• Offshore wind turbines could provide liveable environments for coral reefs, research shows.
• In a lab, coral larvae was successfully regrown on underwater steel and concrete.
• Now one company plans to create coral colonies on four offshore wind turbines along the Taiwanese coast.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/05/wind-turbines-coral-reefs-sustainability/

So the drums of oil required to keep them spinning yeah I am sure the China epaulets will be making sure it is contained during maint  lol

[Plissken 226]

2 hours ago, irv said:

Small amount of oil. And that's not talking about the cost of the friggin things, the wildlife they kill and what to do with them after their mediocre life. Yeah, they sure are "GREEN" 

Sorry to say, Spun, but you got gut hooked into this global warming/green energy scam like you did the vaccines. For an alleged mental health expert, I thought you'd be smarter? 

The Big Cover Up: Wind Industry Burying Millions of Toxic Turbine Blades In Landfills

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/05/13/the-big-cover-up-wind-industry-burying-millions-of-toxic-turbine-blades-in-landfills/ 

https://www.ketv.com/article/hundreds-of-old-wind-turbine-blades-in-field-near-sidney-ne/39271654# 

 

 

Oh look, recyclable turbine blades are on the market now - one less reason for you to hate them:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/huge-offshore-wind-farm-to-use-recyclable-turbine-blades.html

[irv 5,313]

1 hour ago, Plissken said:

Oh look, recyclable turbine blades are on the market now - one less reason for you to hate them:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/huge-offshore-wind-farm-to-use-recyclable-turbine-blades.html

Another swing and a miss. 

Wind turbine blades can be recycled, but it rarely happens today.

It is true that decommissioned wind turbine blades are often thrown away in landfills.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/30/fact-check-recycling-can-keep-wind-turbine-blades-out-landfills/8647981002/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

While most of a turbine can be recycled or find a second life on another wind farm, researchers estimate the U.S. will have more than 720,000 tons of blade material to dispose of over the next 20 years, a figure that doesn't include newer, taller higher-capacity versions.

There aren't many options to recycle or trash turbine blades, and what options do exist are expensive, partly because the U.S. wind industry is so young. It's a waste problem that runs counter to what the industry is held up to be: a perfect solution for environmentalists looking to combat climate change.

 

but the blades, made of a tough but pliable mix of resin and fiberglass — similar to what spaceship parts are made from — are a different story.

"The blades are kind of a dud because they have no value," he said.

Decommissioned blades are also notoriously difficult and expensive to transport. They can be anywhere from 100 to 300 feet long and need to be cut up onsite before getting trucked away on specialized equipment — which costs money — to the landfill.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759376113/unfurling-the-waste-problem-caused-by-wind-energy

Edited June 19 by irv

[NaturallyAspirated 1,722]

3 hours ago, irv said:

Small amount of oil. And that's not talking about the cost of the friggin things, the wildlife they kill and what to do with them after their mediocre life. Yeah, they sure are "GREEN" 

Sorry to say, Spun, but you got gut hooked into this global warming/green energy scam like you did the vaccines. For an alleged mental health expert, I thought you'd be smarter? 

The Big Cover Up: Wind Industry Burying Millions of Toxic Turbine Blades In Landfills

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/05/13/the-big-cover-up-wind-industry-burying-millions-of-toxic-turbine-blades-in-landfills/ 

https://www.ketv.com/article/hundreds-of-old-wind-turbine-blades-in-field-near-sidney-ne/39271654# 

 

 

Toxic?  Haha those things are about the most inert lumps of material you can get.

What a sheep.

Neal

[irv 5,313]

26 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Toxic?  Haha those things are about the most inert lumps of material you can get.

What a sheep.

Neal

What toxic chemicals are in wind turbines?

By today's standards in a relatively small 1.5 megawatt Industrial Wind Turbine the blades contain about ten tons of Bisphenol A based polycarbonate and epoxy resins. Bisphenol A is also present in the wiring insulation, high voltage insulators, circuit boards and even the paints on Industrial Wind Turbines.Jun 18, 2012

 

Is bisphenol A harmful?

Exposure to BPA is a concern because of the possible health effects on the brain and prostate gland of fetuses, infants and children. It can also affect children's behavior. Additional research suggests a possible link between BPA and increased blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

 

[Plissken 226]

1 hour ago, irv said:

Another swing and a miss. 

Wind turbine blades can be recycled, but it rarely happens today.

It is true that decommissioned wind turbine blades are often thrown away in landfills.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/30/fact-check-recycling-can-keep-wind-turbine-blades-out-landfills/8647981002/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

While most of a turbine can be recycled or find a second life on another wind farm, researchers estimate the U.S. will have more than 720,000 tons of blade material to dispose of over the next 20 years, a figure that doesn't include newer, taller higher-capacity versions.

There aren't many options to recycle or trash turbine blades, and what options do exist are expensive, partly because the U.S. wind industry is so young. It's a waste problem that runs counter to what the industry is held up to be: a perfect solution for environmentalists looking to combat climate change.

 

but the blades, made of a tough but pliable mix of resin and fiberglass — similar to what spaceship parts are made from — are a different story.

"The blades are kind of a dud because they have no value," he said.

Decommissioned blades are also notoriously difficult and expensive to transport. They can be anywhere from 100 to 300 feet long and need to be cut up onsite before getting trucked away on specialized equipment — which costs money — to the landfill.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759376113/unfurling-the-waste-problem-caused-by-wind-energy

That only applies to blades of yore.  The new Siemens blades are made with a unique resin that easily dissolves in a mildly acidic solution at low temperatures and the materials completely reused.  You’d know that if you’d read the link, optimistically speaking.  

Edited June 19 by Plissken

[Plissken 226]

1 hour ago, irv said:

What toxic chemicals are in wind turbines?

By today's standards in a relatively small 1.5 megawatt Industrial Wind Turbine the blades contain about ten tons of Bisphenol A based polycarbonate and epoxy resins. Bisphenol A is also present in the wiring insulation, high voltage insulators, circuit boards and even the paints on Industrial Wind Turbines.Jun 18, 2012

 

Is bisphenol A harmful?

Exposure to BPA is a concern because of the possible health effects on the brain and prostate gland of fetuses, infants and children. It can also affect children's behavior. Additional research suggests a possible link between BPA and increased blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

 

So like in canned food?  At least people don’t eat windmills.