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Deephaven Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Why are you a coward to answer this question? It is unrelated to what I responded to. As for your question on the coward, that is a good one. You were asked questions more than once on every page in this thread and have yet to. So why are you a coward? If you aren't then answer. I'll even answer yours if you go back and show you aren't a coward yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Deephaven said: It is unrelated to what I responded to. As for your question on the coward, that is a good one. You were asked questions more than once on every page in this thread and have yet to. So why are you a coward? If you aren't then answer. I'll even answer yours if you go back and show you aren't a coward yourself. The only thing you and your sidekick are doing are making complete fools of yourselves. Ask me any question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: The only thing you and your sidekick are doing are making complete fools of yourselves. Ask me any question. Imagine giving this shit to children based on nothing but a desire to virtue signal these people should be shot Edited July 14, 2022 by ACE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 8:06 PM, akvanden said: Haiti's average age is 23. All 3rd world countries have extremely low median ages. What is it that you keep harping on that doesn't happen to young people when/if they get Covid? So why are we vaxxing those aged 25 and under again? Thank you for owning yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Here is BC's data. Its either too young or too old now. What a joke. This does not include the excess deaths not counted towards covid. They are near 100% in the vaxxed. What does the vax do again? Reduce cases? No. Reduce hospitalization? No. Reduce ICU? No. Reduce deaths? No. Anything worthwhile? No. Do you need help understanding the chart, I'm here for you. Do you not remember going through this just two-three weeks ago? Getting forgetful with age? 1) adjust it per 100k 2) age standarize it. 8 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: This does not include the excess deaths not counted towards covid. They are near 100% in the vaxxed. You're a joke. Edited July 15, 2022 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: So why are we vaxxing those aged 25 and under again? Thank you for owning yourself. You wondered why Haiti had a lower death rate compared to other countries with older average age groups. No one is arguing younger people have a lower change of dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 hours ago, akvanden said: Do you not remember going through this just two-three weeks ago? Getting forgetful with age? 1) adjust it per 100k 2) age standarize it. You're a joke. May 15 to Jul 09. Lets just go with the actual data OK instead of cherry picked bullshit. Unvaxxed deaths = 38 1 dose deaths = 2 2 dose deaths = 51 3 dose deaths = 295 Total = 386 Do you need help calculating the ratios or rates per 100K? Note the deaths are including any test that gives a positive case so likely not even the actual cause of death. The real numbers are lower. Now this chart is reflective of what is being observed just about everywhere else on the planet, ie the more doses the more deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Here is the data from the UK. The UK data is considered to be the more accurate in the world. It matches the BC. Edited July 15, 2022 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 hours ago, akvanden said: You wondered why Haiti had a lower death rate compared to other countries with older average age groups. No one is arguing younger people have a lower change of dying. So is that a yes or no on vaxxing healthy young people? You can do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Here is Alex Berenson summarizing covid data from Manitoba (not Ontario). Standardized death rates for the fully vaxxed higher than unvaxxed. Data source below. Are we still fooling ourselves? https://www.gov.mb.ca/health/publichealth/surveillance/covid-19/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Here is Alex Berenson summarizing covid data from Manitoba (not Ontario). Standardized death rates for the fully vaxxed higher than unvaxxed. Data source below. Are we still fooling ourselves? https://www.gov.mb.ca/health/publichealth/surveillance/covid-19/index.html He wants to sell more books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Do you need help calculating the ratios or rates per 100K? No, BC already did it for us, so let me post the same thing over. Gee, higher rates of hospitalizations, critical care, deaths amongst the unvaccinated population. You can keep posting absolute numbers while not understanding ratios. Of the entire 5 people that come to the covid forums, the other 4 understand the difference. 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: So is that a yes or no on vaxxing healthy young people? You can do it. I'm just here to help explain the numbers to you - my opinions won't change your garbage links and is irrelevant. Edited July 15, 2022 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, akvanden said: No, BC already did it for us, so let me post the same thing over. Gee, higher rates of hospitalizations, critical care, deaths amongst the unvaccinated population. You can keep posting absolute numbers while not understanding ratios. Of the entire 5 people that come to the covid forums, the other 4 understand the difference. I'm just here to help explain the numbers to you - my opinions won't change your garbage links and is irrelevant. These are the totals for that time period. May 15 to Jul 09. Lets just go with the actual data OK instead of cherry picked bullshit. Unvaxxed deaths = 38 1 dose deaths = 2 2 dose deaths = 51 3 dose deaths = 295 Total = 386 Produce the values, you are full of shit and don't even know how to use a fucking chart. Idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: These are the totals for that time period. May 15 to Jul 09. Lets just go with the actual data OK instead of cherry picked bullshit. Unvaxxed deaths = 38 1 dose deaths = 2 2 dose deaths = 51 3 dose deaths = 295 Total = 386 Produce the values, you are full of shit and don't even know how to use a fucking chart. Idiot. Yeah. Totals. Absolute values, unadjusted for group population size. We've covered this 7th grade math concept already. 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Produce the values, you are full of shit and don't even know how to use a fucking chart. Idiot. Hilarious. It's a 9 sigma event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 295 deaths for the boosted from May 15 to July 09. Like I said your data is full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, akvanden said: Yeah. Totals. Absolute values, unadjusted for group population size. We've covered this 7th grade math concept already. Hilarious. It's a 9 sigma event! What does the Manitoba data say on the left side of the chart? Adjusted for group population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: 295 deaths for the boosted from May 15 to July 09. Like I said your data is full of shit. "My" data is from the same website you posted, dumbass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: "My" data is from the same website you posted, dumbass! Get the totals then, if you know how to, moron. Go to the actual data. Edited July 15, 2022 by ArcticCrusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Get the totals then, if you know how to, moron. Go to the actual data. Lol, so you claim the vax makes it worse but all your data shows otherwise. The only moron is you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Lol, so you claim the vax makes it worse but all your data shows otherwise. The only moron is you. The vax is helping? This is what the raw data shows. Keep looking like an idiot. Pandemic of the vaxxed. May 15 to Jul 09. Unvaxxed deaths = 38 1 dose deaths = 2 2 dose deaths = 51 3 dose deaths = 295 Total = 386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The vax is helping? This is what the raw data shows. Keep looking like an idiot. Pandemic of the vaxxed. May 15 to Jul 09. Unvaxxed deaths = 38 1 dose deaths = 2 2 dose deaths = 51 3 dose deaths = 295 Total = 386 Raw data from your site adjusted for population size. Raw. Data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: Raw data from your site adjusted for population size. Raw. Data. How many people died totals? Unvaxxed vs Vaxxed. 38 vs 348. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: How many people died totals? Unvaxxed vs Vaxxed. 38 vs 348. How much bigger is the vaccinated population size? If only there was a way we could normalize the population sizes for an apples to apples comparison - because then, we could tell what the rates are for each given population. If only there was a way...... On a side note, if you had a the chance two play two lottery games, one odds of winning was 1 in 10 and the other was 10 out of 10,000, you'd choose the 10 out of 10,000, right? 10 is a bigger number than 1 after all. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, akvanden said: How much bigger is the vaccinated population size? If only there was a way we could normalize the population sizes for an apples to apples comparison - because then, we could tell what the rates are for each given population. If only there was a way...... On a side note, if you had a the chance two play two lottery games, one odds of winning was 1 in 10 and the other was 10 out of 10,000, you'd choose the 10 out of 10,000, right? 10 is a bigger number than 1 after all. Makes sense. It's in my chart, its 13% of the population and the deaths represent 10%. Does this make sense to you cause its kinda a deal breaker if you don't understand basic stats. Now those deaths are not from covid, but with covid as stated in the disclosure. So how many really died from just covid on the death certificate? How many died with more than one comorbidity? The average is about 4. So lets just keep it simple rather than skewing the bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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