SkisNH Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Wage growth for most average Joes was wiped out by increased costs due to tariffs. Bullshit this would have shown up in inflation numbers Just like when the market exploded after Biden (they passed trillions of dollars of stimulus) The debt and deficit both increased and GDP was never higher than 2015, you can ignore that fact if it makes you feel better. Another bushit statement GDP pretty much goes up with the exceptions of cyclical recession No Trumps mean tweets didn't bother me in the least. Trump spent more in his first term than every other president in history including Obama, in fact nearly as much as Obama's 8 years. You must be smoking crack https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296 You would expect that the way you put Trump up he would have had better GDP, job growth and higher wages than the dipshit in there now. Inflation had wiped out all of Bidens wage gains...it's a tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Recession or inflation…pick your poison……I choose inflation. Seems Americans are still spending like drunken whores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 1, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Wage growth for most average Joes was wiped out by increased costs due to tariffs. Just like when the market exploded after Biden was elected. The debt and deficit both increased and GDP was never higher than 2015, you can ignore that fact if it makes you feel better. No Trumps mean tweets didn't bother me in the least. Trump spent more in his first term than every other president in history including Obama, in fact nearly as much as Obama's 8 years. You would expect that the way you put Trump up he would have had better GDP, job growth and higher wages than the dipshit in there now. Dont you think what our taxes was spent on should come into play?? Spending is out of control with both parties, but I would rather see our tax dollars spent in America on America rather than pallets of our tax dollars loaded on a plane and flown to an enemy or the fucking stupid Paris accord or given to 3rd world countries so their politicians can enrich themselves and fuck over their people. Wouldn't you?? Now Que up the Trumpeteers with posts on what Trump spent tax dollars on that they don't like.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Recession or inflation…pick your poison……I choose inflation. You chose poorly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It was the 2 trillion he gave to corporate America. Concur ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, SkisNH said: There are plenty of articles out there on the subject of the tariffs and the cost to US Consumers. I can tell you first hand that a cutting edge went from $100.00 to $125.00 after the tariffs, that a bailout larger than the auto bailout was needed to prop up farmers. The tariffs were the final nail to many farmers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, 1jkw said: There are plenty of articles out there on the subject of the tariffs and the cost to US Consumers. I can tell you first hand that a cutting edge went from $100.00 to $125.00 after the tariffs, that a bailout larger than the auto bailout was needed to prop up farmers. The tariffs were the final nail to many farmers. Still didn't show up in inflation numbers....my industry boomed after they stopped the Chinese dumping. Maybe you shouldn't buy a Chinese POS cutting edge, it will last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Dont you think what our taxes was spent on should come into play?? Spending is out of control with both parties, but I would rather see our tax dollars spent in America on America rather than pallets of our tax dollars loaded on a plane and flown to an enemy or the fucking stupid Paris accord or given to 3rd world countries so their politicians can enrich themselves and fuck over their people. Wouldn't you?? Now Que up the Trumpeteers with posts on what Trump spent tax dollars on that they don't like.. Yes. I also think that if you cried like a bitch for 8 years about debt and deficit the Trump years should make you want to kill yourself. I guess you are referencing the money that belonged to Iran that was paid back with interest. Are we the world police? It was understood that the world court would have ruled against us. I agree look at what we spent in Iraq and Afg. and how much or how little I should say the citizens got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, 1jkw said: There are plenty of articles out there on the subject of the tariffs and the cost to US Consumers. I can tell you first hand that a cutting edge went from $100.00 to $125.00 after the tariffs, that a bailout larger than the auto bailout was needed to prop up farmers. The tariffs were the final nail to many farmers. What cutting edge are you getting from the chinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Still didn't show up in inflation numbers....my industry boomed after they stopped the Chinese dumping. Maybe you shouldn't buy a Chinese POS cutting edge, it will last longer. The trade deficit with China was higher under Trump than anytime during the previous 8 years in fact you need to go back 12 years to find numbers higher. If you save $1200.00 on your taxes and goods cost you $1200.00 more it wouldn't show and if you remember the Fed. raised interest rates. I'm quite sure mine is US made, first one I put on when the bucket edge was worn. F7ben posted many numbers and facts about the US steel industry and the effects of the tariffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: What cutting edge are you getting from the chinks? I don't think so, but I will find out my BIL works where I got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 1, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Yes. I also think that if you cried like a bitch for 8 years about debt and deficit the Trump years should make you want to kill yourself. I guess you are referencing the money that belonged to Iran that was paid back with interest. Are we the world police? It was understood that the world court would have ruled against us. I agree look at what we spent in Iraq and Afg. and how much or how little I should say the citizens got. Well thank God I didn't do that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Rigid1 said: Well thank God I didn't do that!! I didn't either, but I like reminding people who did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 1jkw said: There are plenty of articles out there on the subject of the tariffs and the cost to US Consumers. I can tell you first hand that a cutting edge went from $100.00 to $125.00 after the tariffs, that a bailout larger than the auto bailout was needed to prop up farmers. The tariffs were the final nail to many farmers. Who gets the tariff money that we're paying? Where does it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 1jkw said: The trade deficit with China was higher under Trump than anytime during the previous 8 years in fact you need to go back 12 years to find numbers higher. If you save $1200.00 on your taxes and goods cost you $1200.00 more it wouldn't show and if you remember the Fed. raised interest rates. I'm quite sure mine is US made, first one I put on when the bucket edge was worn. F7ben posted many numbers and facts about the US steel industry and the effects of the tariffs. Did you know Biden has left most of the steel tariffs in place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, SkisNH said: Did you know Biden has left most of the steel tariffs in place.... You mean the taxes Trump put in place..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: You mean the taxes Trump put in place..... Technically they were lifted in Nov. But the effects of dumping are worse...the Chinese govt subsidized many industries effectively bleeding usa companies to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, SkisNH said: Technically they were lifted in Nov. But the effects of dumping are worse...the Chinese govt subsidized many industries effectively bleeding usa companies to death. It's better that the government bleeds us to death with a fake tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It's better that the government bleeds us to death with a fake tax. The fake tax of inflation? Tell that to the steel Industry, the US furniture industry, domestic plywood and the list goes on. What happens when all of those jobs just go away... Edited March 2, 2022 by SkisNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, SkisNH said: The fake tax of inflation? Tell that to the steel Industry, the US furniture industry, domestic plywood and the list goes on. What happens when all of those jobs just go away... Those tariffs should've been returned to consumers. Instead the trump administration kept them. Where did all that cash go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Those tariffs should've been returned to consumers. Instead the trump administration kept them. Where did all that cash go? General revenue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Right back at ya…of course then you wouldn’t post at all.👍🏼 Good game in AA tonight ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 19 hours ago, 1jkw said: Wage growth for most average Joes was wiped out by increased costs due to tariffs. Just like when the market exploded after Biden was elected. The debt and deficit both increased and GDP was never higher than 2015, you can ignore that fact if it makes you feel better. No Trumps mean tweets didn't bother me in the least. Trump spent more in his first term than every other president in history including Obama, in fact nearly as much as Obama's 8 years. You would expect that the way you put Trump up he would have had better GDP, job growth and higher wages than the dipshit in there now. Trump had a deficit fueled economy. Now it’s time to pay the piper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 14 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Good game in AA tonight ... isn’t your KKK meeting tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 2, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, spin_dry said: isn’t your KKK meeting tonight? No. It,s biker gangs that have church on Wednesday nights. Kkk is on Saturdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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