02sled Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: California sends $7 back to the federal government for every dollar it receives from them. Regardless... if they aren't going to be part of the US they have a proportionate share of the $19.9T debt and need to repay that. No reason they should be able to just walk away from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, 02sled said: Regardless... if they aren't going to be part of the US they have a proportionate share of the $19.9T debt and need to repay that. No reason they should be able to just walk away from it. They have, it's called sending $7 for every dollar they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 And how would you make them pay? Import tariffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 29 minutes ago, motonoggin said: California sends $7 back to the federal government for every dollar it receives from them. Do you have a link to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: They have, it's called sending $7 for every dollar they get. Damn... if you are in business and have 50 partners. The business owes $10M and one of the partners wants out. Do you just let that partner out without equitable settlement of that debt? They go get their own independent loan and pay what they owe Edited February 1, 2017 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, 02sled said: Damn... if you are in business and have 50 partners. The business owes $10M and one of the partners wants out. Do you just let that partner out without equitable settlement of that debt? They go get their own independent loan and pay what they owe But the country isn't a business. 19 minutes ago, racer254 said: Do you have a link to this? Google it. I'm all out of spoons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: But the country isn't a business. Google it. I'm all out of spoons You have nothing to prove your "facts" LOL. According to this you are WAY THE FUCK OFF. Edited February 1, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, racer254 said: You have nothing to prove your "facts" LOL. According to this you are WAY THE FUCK OFF. My bad I got it mixed up with the 7:1 ratio from South Carolina cited here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/21/opinion-california-independence-yes-we-can/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjn4L-iyu_RAhVollQKHUNFCx0QFghHMAU&usg=AFQjCNFO7ZZatKZL8GtwBsuWkASp7H315g&sig2=-o9kDdELe_EvjE7HP3z6ng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Wasn't that useful? Did you learn anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, motonoggin said: But the country isn't a business. Google it. I'm all out of spoons Are you for real. So it isn't a business. Every person in the country owns a share of the national debt. Give me one good reason why the population of the US should just absorb the share of the national debt attributed to the people living in California if they don't want to be part of the country. Each taxpayer in 2015 had a $154K share in the national debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, motonoggin said: My bad I got it mixed up with the 7:1 ratio from South Carolina cited here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/21/opinion-california-independence-yes-we-can/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjn4L-iyu_RAhVollQKHUNFCx0QFghHMAU&usg=AFQjCNFO7ZZatKZL8GtwBsuWkASp7H315g&sig2=-o9kDdELe_EvjE7HP3z6ng That is why I wanted you to provide a link. Validation of facts helps people learn a hell of a lot more than some bs that you "thought" you read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, 02sled said: Are you for real. So it isn't a business. Every person in the country owns a share of the national debt. Give me one good reason why the population of the US should just absorb the share of the national debt attributed to the people living in California if they don't want to be part of the country. Each taxpayer in 2015 had a $154K share in the national debt. What happens if I die before I pay back my $154k? 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: That is why I wanted you to provide a link. Validation of facts helps people learn a hell of a lot more than some bs that you "thought" you read. Well, you did it for yourself instead. I'm proud of you for taking some initiative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: What happens if I die before I pay back my $154k? Well, you did it for yourself instead. I'm proud of you for taking some initiative. I get sick and tired of proving people here incorrect. I didn't think you would be like that. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, racer254 said: I get sick and tired of proving people here incorrect. I didn't think you would be like that. Oh well. Always good to do your own fact checking no matter who you're talking to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Always good to do your own fact checking no matter who you're talking to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: They have, it's called sending $7 for every dollar they get. how do you do it? is it the pot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: And how would you make them pay? Import tariffs? $10 dollars a gallon charge for water from the colorado river and a $10 dollar a kw charge for electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: $10 dollars a gallon charge for water from the colorado river and a $10 dollar a kw charge for electricity. Isn't that all or mostly privatized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: how do you do it? is it the pot? Lol probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 california isn't going to leave. there's no serious indication that the state will. yet you fucking cunts continue to make something out of nothing just to be pissed off. don't you have enough stuff that's real to be pissed off about? do you have to make shit up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 1, 2017 California "thinks" it borders would stay the same under seceding... there is a large portion of cali that encompasses a large amount of land that would stay in the US. Trump would annex a bunch of cali leaving just a sliver on the coast that would choose to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, spin_dry said: california isn't going to leave. there's no serious indication that the state will. yet you fucking cunts continue to make something out of nothing just to be pissed off. don't you have enough stuff that's real to be pissed off about? do you have to make shit up? They like to be triggered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, BOHICA said: California "thinks" it borders would stay the same under seceding... there is a large portion of cali that encompasses a large amount of land that would stay in the US. Trump would annex a bunch of cali leaving just a sliver on the coast that would choose to leave. you are actually put thought into this. unfuckingreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Isn't that all or mostly privatized? Water or electricity???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, spin_dry said: you are actually put thought into this. unfuckingreal No thought.... just common sense.... its comical to read up on democrats on the underground website.... they think its happening and many from out of california are planning there moves to the state when it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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