Crnr2Crnr Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20641271 With the usual cast of characters. Hey @fortune46x ask judnik if they buy clutch parts from Ricky next weekend. lol's... the kid and Butterstorm is also worth a chuckle. https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20645544 Edited February 12, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr corrected link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 When egos get involved it gets in the way of good tech discussion. My early years if HCS I had a really good clutching thread in the zr section, I think it went on for a couple years. There was a lot of good knowledge in that forum. If I look back on it I'd probably cringe a little but it was 15 years ago and I was just starting to really tune setups on my own then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20641271 With the usual cast of characters. Hey @fortune46x ask judnik if they buy clutch parts from Ricky next weekend. lol's... the kid and Butterstorm is also worth a chuckle. https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20645544 They probably needed an off the shelf helix and nsp had one in stock so they bought it. That equals we are the exclusive clutch supplier to judnik. And it also could have been bud judinik in West Virginia sticking a snowmobile engine in his double wide bought clutch parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Not greg b said: They probably needed an off the shelf helix and nsp had one in stock so they bought it. That equals we are the exclusive clutch supplier to judnik. And it also could have been bud judinik in West Virginia sticking a snowmobile engine in his double wide bought clutch parts Yeah they seem to hang their hat on a race team buying one of their kits. It's entirely possible that they aren't even using their kit, they maybe buy 5 kits and use one they like. Or buy it just to compare to their own setup as a check it gauge. I know my suspension tuner will sometimes buy valving from another company just to see where the others are at to compare. Classic NSP though. I would think any team worth a damn would know how to set some clutches up for a rider. More than NSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, mnstang said: Yeah they seem to hang their hat on a race team buying one of their kits. It's entirely possible that they aren't even using their kit, they maybe buy 5 kits and use one they like. Or buy it just to compare to their own setup as a check it gauge. I know my suspension tuner will sometimes buy valving from another company just to see where the others are at to compare. Classic NSP though. I would think any team worth a damn would know how to set some clutches up for a rider. More than NSP. Always found it hard to believe a race team is buying or receiving a clutch kit to use. If your a good race team you have the expertise to clutch your own sled. Now here's some money can you put my sticker on your sled. Very possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Sold a clutch kit to judnick... Does ol ricky even have a 22 axys r ? considering calibration changes every time they go out I doubt that kit went into the sled especially knowing who is clutching the sleds in that trailer. He also sold one to hentges years back and it was in kamms sled (the same sled I tore down and never saw any nsp nonsense on it) Patriotic innovations is spot on , race teams don't give a shit about dyno numbers below is what they care about - Data logged on each specific sled, everything is based off gps and oem can protocols with some added sensors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 hours ago, fortune46x said: Sold a clutch kit to judnick... Does ol ricky even have a 22 axys r ? considering calibration changes every time they go out I doubt that kit went into the sled especially knowing who is clutching the sleds in that trailer. He also sold one to hentges years back and it was in kamms sled (the same sled I tore down and never saw any nsp nonsense on it) Patriotic innovations is spot on , race teams don't give a shit about dyno numbers below is what they care about - Data logged on each specific sled, everything is based off gps and oem can protocols with some added sensors. Do you have to take the hoods off the Cat's in the trailer, or do they bring in a specialist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Wolves, bears, and hoods, oh my! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Do you have to take the hoods off the Cat's in the trailer, or do they bring in a specialist? I heard rick was coming to new york this weekend for that. I'm gonna ask Juddys guys about NSP's magic.. bet they're as confused as Rick was when he tried to pull that hood off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 11:31 AM, fortune46x said: Sold a clutch kit to judnick... Does ol ricky even have a 22 axys r ? considering calibration changes every time they go out I doubt that kit went into the sled especially knowing who is clutching the sleds in that trailer. He also sold one to hentges years back and it was in kamms sled (the same sled I tore down and never saw any nsp nonsense on it) Patriotic innovations is spot on , race teams don't give a shit about dyno numbers below is what they care about - Data logged on each specific sled, everything is based off gps and oem can protocols with some added sensors. https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/rpm-drop-when-running-the-snot-out-of-it.1878156/page-7 This was some entertaining reading this morning... all the big names on HCS duking it out, threads getting closed, hurt feelings... and MORE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/rpm-drop-when-running-the-snot-out-of-it.1878156/page-7 This was some entertaining reading this morning... all the big names on HCS duking it out, threads getting closed, hurt feelings... and MORE!!! We forgot to look for nsp when we were at the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Not greg b said: We forgot to look for nsp when we were at the race his kits are so popular Steve Houle was using them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: his kits are so popular Steve Houle was using them It was launching sleds right off the track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) On 3/19/2022 at 8:30 PM, Not greg b said: It was launching sleds right off the track when they engage... game on Edited March 22, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The big dick thread is still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Doug said: The big dick thread is still going strong. who's winning and losing, besides the audience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 lmao @Deephaven https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/rpm-drop-when-running-the-snot-out-of-it.1878156/post-20662979 you went there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Throwing some gas on that fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) On 2/12/2022 at 6:30 AM, Crnr2Crnr said: https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20641271 With the usual cast of characters. Hey @fortune46x ask judnik if they buy clutch parts from Ricky next weekend. lol's... the kid and Butterstorm is also worth a chuckle. https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/stock-almond-gold-spring-on-850-is-coil-binding-what-is-everyone-changing-it-to.1884457/post-20645544 Battlestorm had some very good running sleds. Just like Paaso Racing I remember some of the guys ran him off of HCS and he is running some killer Poo turbo sleds. C2C you would not have a chance with either of them. Edited March 22, 2022 by Badger** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Badger** said: Battlestorm had some very good running sleds. Just like Paaso Racing I remember some of the guys ran him off of HCS and he is running some killer Poo turbo sleds. C2C you not have a chance with either of them. great, because I don't actually care about drag racing, hill climbing or lake racing... I do enjoy a good catfight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Throwing some gas on that fire A couple years ago I posted that guys should learn and understand clutching before they go out and buy a clutch kit. They could do their own clutching to set their sleds up for their weight, riding style and conditions they ride in. There is no one clutch kit that fits every owners needs. Rick went ballistic. Said his clutch kit ........bla bla bla. I asked if he sells the same clutch kit to a lake racer and a trail rider. It basically turned into the same shit storm they have going there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Doug said: A couple years ago I posted that guys should learn and understand clutching before they go out and buy a clutch kit. They could do their own clutching to set their sleds up for their weight, riding style and conditions they ride in. There is no one clutch kit that fits every owners needs. Rick went ballistic. Said his clutch kit ........bla bla bla. I asked if he sells the same clutch kit to a lake racer and a trail rider. It basically turned into the same shit storm they have going there now. I remember when you said that. 100% right, and the shit storm that followed was epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, Doug said: A couple years ago I posted that guys should learn and understand clutching before they go out and buy a clutch kit. They could do their own clutching to set their sleds up for their weight, riding style and conditions they ride in. There is no one clutch kit that fits every owners needs. Rick went ballistic. Said his clutch kit ........bla bla bla. I asked if he sells the same clutch kit to a lake racer and a trail rider. It basically turned into the same shit storm they have going there now. I am sure he pulls seals on every bearing to check for grease. I am also not convinced polaris used greaseless bearings in the 20/21 sleds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I need to make another burner account in hcs just so I can fuel this dumpster fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: lmao @Deephaven https://www.hardcoresledder.com/threads/rpm-drop-when-running-the-snot-out-of-it.1878156/post-20662979 you went there... Since they somehow over looked forcing me to leave....I thought I should use my gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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