Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: And they are still clueless what a vaccine does. why do fully vaccinated people still wear a mask? Can anyone seriously answer the question. Because they’re idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, irv said: It's beyond ridiculous! 7,425 cases today in the FULLY VACCINATED and total cases now up and beyond 40,000. But boost me baby because: Vaccines remain the best protection against Omicron. https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149090 This shit just keeps getting more and more insane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, ACE said: This world needs a purge Indeed. No reason to about it. It needs to happen. 35 minutes ago, ACE said: They’re asking people to settle down on getting tested a 10,000 test backlog so far they created mass hysteria and now are getting mad that people are acting hysterical they’re probably also getting mad that it’s making the vaxxed vs purebloods cases look awful because the purebloods aren’t tripping over themselves to get tested Just got back from the gym. Masks are coming out in droves again here in libDuloof. Yep...several with them on in the gym...well, "fitness center". Ughhh.....I just giggle to myself as they mostly just stay on the treadmills anyway. 15 minutes ago, Mainecat said: And they are still clueless what a vaccine does. why do fully vaccinated people still wear a mask? Can anyone seriously answer the question. Because they were told to be scared. And indeedd, we're all all little confused as to what it does since "what it does" has been the ever moving goalposts being moved by absolute idiots like you. BTW....most of us reject the new definition of "vaccine". I hope you get covid. No chance you'll survive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, irv said: It's beyond ridiculous! 7,425 cases today in the FULLY VACCINATED and total cases now up and beyond 40,000. But boost me baby because: Vaccines remain the best protection against Omicron. https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149090 1500 unvaxxed vs 8000 vaxxed or partial. The bid and ask spread is getting wider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: 1500 unvaxxed vs 8000 vaxxed or partial. The bid and ask spread is getting wider. I think that’s why they’re getting mad. It’s only the vaxxed getting tested and it’s making the stats look hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 This is real. Fucking idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: This is real. Fucking idiots. Ok so what.. for the rest of your life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted December 24, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 24, 2021 Its reached all time stupid levels. They gave away 1000 rapid test kits the other day, 1 per person, started at 7am, gone by 730am. Then announced they wouldn't do that again because 1000's of people stood in line waiting to get a test kit. We already have our test kits here for our family Christmas tomorrow. My 85 year old mother won't come unless everyone gets a test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 24, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 24, 2021 Question these insane people by asking how many cycles the test they took is and they will look at you like... What? .. All you need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, ACE said: I think that’s why they’re getting mad. It’s only the vaxxed getting tested and it’s making the stats look hilarious Well, we can go down this rabbit hole a bit further if we wanted. What if, in months/years to come, major complications start to develop and there is enough people unaffected that didn’t take the vax to show it isn’t some anomaly. Imagine the outcry. That’s why the FDA wants 60 years to publish all the documents and people associated with this “vaccine”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Well, we can go down this rabbit hole a bit further if we wanted. What if, in months/years to come, major complications start to develop and there is enough people unaffected that didn’t take the vax to show it isn’t some anomaly. Imagine the outcry. That’s why the FDA wants 60 years to publish all the documents and people associated with this “vaccine”. Pfizer is buying a cardiovascular pharmaceutical company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, ACE said: Pfizer is buying a cardiovascular pharmaceutical company Nothing to see there. I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 The 20 lies of covid. Myth #1: The virus is new. Reality: The virus is closely related to widely circulating betacoronaviruses, sharing 65-70% common genetic material. Myth #2: Everyone is susceptible (immunologically naive). Reality: Pre-existing or cross-immunity is widespread, and moreover children almost universally enjoy robust innate immunity. Myth #3: The virus is deadly. Recent polls revealed that the average member of the public believes the infection fatality rate (IFR) is 20 to 38%. Reality: Ioannidis’ study, the most comprehensive to date, reveals the global IFR for under 70s to be 0.05%, with almost all fatalities involving serious comorbidities. For the median risk member of the population the IFR is less than 0.01%, meaning that for most people risk is negligible. Myth #4: Lockdowns are effective at reducing deaths. Reality: More than 50 studies have shown that lockdowns have no material beneficial effect on Covid mortality, and that they worsen overall mortality outcomes when non-Covid collateral harms are factored in. Lockdown had no place in prior public health or pandemic respiratory virus guidelines, existing as a fringe idea among people who advocated militarized approaches to pandemics that completely contradicted public health and epidemiological practice and theory. Myth #5: Cloth mask mandates are effective. Reality: The most comprehensive study to date, by the European CDC, demonstrated that almost all papers supporting cloth mask use were of low evidentiary value, and most exhibited signs of bias. The WHO admitted that its reversal on mask efficacy was politically motivated. There is no sign in the international epidemic data of mask efficacy. Behavioural science teams have been revealed to have deployed masks as a tool of psychological warfare (to increase compliance with public health measures). Masking as source control is inconsistent with aerosol transmission. Myth #6: Transmission is by droplets and fomites, so masks, sanitizing, stickers, social distancing and perspex screens are effective. Reality: The most comprehensive study to date, by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, found no evidence supporting droplet and fomite transmission. Airborne aerosol transmission has the most evidentiary support, as for other respiratory viruses. Almost all the countermeasures deployed at great cost have no basis in science. Myth #7: Asymptomatic transmission is a driver of the epidemic. Reality: Primary evidence suggests the opposite is the case—that asymptomatic infected people share small innocula, acting beneficially to spread and boost immune recognition. Asymptomatic cases are very rarely index cases in disease transmission, and somewhat less rarely of infection transmission. Myth #8: PCR testing at high cycle thresholds is appropriate. A positive result proves a case of disease or causality in a death. Reality: PCR testing is not competent for diagnosis of COVID, or detection of “cases”, infections or infectedness. In particular, when deployed at high “cycle thresholds”, it is prone to generating epidemiological false positives, with severe economic consequences. Myth #9: COVID is untreatable. Nothing can be done until a patient arrives at hospital, at which point they should be ventilated and put on Remdesivir. Reality: Early intervention in the 6-8 day window when the disease enters its inflammatory phase has been shown to be remarkably effective, reducing deaths drastically eliminating most deaths. Remdesivir and early ventilation have killed many. Off-label drugs have shown efficacy in many studies, yet are the targets of obvious propaganda by pharmaceutical companies and captured media. Myth #10: The vaccines materially prevent transmission. Reality: By their very mechanism of action, injectable vaccines cannot and do not materially prevent transmission. This is not even a claim made by their manufacturers, but by politicians and conflicted scientists. There is no evidence for transmission reduction in the international epidemic data. The “greater good” argument is wrong. Myth #11: The vaccines are about 95% effective. Reality: Manipulation of the trials to hide pronounced initial negative efficacy owing to immunosuppression has been ubiquitous. Actual efficacy is lower than indicated, and apparently also negative after 20 weeks or so. “Real world studies” double up this error by treating the recently vaccinated as unvaccinated, a move that represents nothing less than a gross scientific fraud. Myth #12: The vaccines are so safe that nobody should hesitate to take one. Reality: The vaccines have triggered unprecedented levels of adverse events in multiple countries. The mechanisms of action for these adverse events are known. We field continuous reports of wilful and draconian suppression of adverse event reporting in South Africa and elsewhere, and of an omerta in the halls of public health. There may be a group of people for whom benefits exceed harms, but until our requests for data transparency are complied with, it is difficult to tell how big this group is. Myth #13: Everybody will benefit from vaccination. Reality: The current vaccines may pass the hurdle for net benefit for the vulnerable, non-recovered minority. The majority of the population, including the young and the recovered, suffer net harms from vaccination. Myth #14: Natural immunity is less broad, durable and strong than synthetic immunity. Reality: By its very mechanisms of action, synthetic immunity is much narrower than natural. Natural immunity confers medium-term sterilizing immunity, while synthetic immunity cannot. By invoking a greater range of immune response, natural immunity can be assumed to provide more durable and flexible (against variants) protection than synthetic. Myth #15: Science is an institution and its authorities’ perspectives are infallible and final. Reality: Science is a process that only proceeds by robust conjecture and criticism. Myth #16: Long COVID is an unusual and dangerous component of the epidemic. Reality: Sequelae appear to be no more common for COVID than for other respiratory viruses. Where Long COVID clinics have been established, they have quietly been closed, unutilized. Myth #17: Containment is possible for contagious respiratory viruses. Reality: Zero COVID policies have failed wherever they have been attempted. Animal reservoirs make them futile. Myth #18: “Pandemicity”. Pandemics are going to occur more often because there is more contact between humans and animals and because humans are more connected. Reality: Urbanisation and commercial farming practices have reduced human-animal contact. Interconnectedness of humans means that many mild viruses are distributed worldwide, ensuring that immune systems recognize more deadly variants that may emerge. Contrast this with the fate of the indigenous peoples of South America when they were first exposed to European diseases. Myth #19: Reducing spread reduces deaths. Reality: Reducing spread by restricting the mobility of the non-vulnerable shifts disease burden onto the vulnerable, causing more of them to be struck down before endemicity is attained. Myth #20: Escalation of perceived threat is in the interests of public health. Reality: Perceived threat drives hysteria, leading to pronounced and deadly nocebo effects (effects of negative expectations on outcomes, the opposite of placebo effects). 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Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Covid fear is a strange religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, ACE said: Covid fear is a strange religion All religions focus on some degree of fear for compliance. Government has learned to mimic this quite well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The 20 lies of covid. Myth #1: The virus is new. Reality: The virus is closely related to widely circulating betacoronaviruses, sharing 65-70% common genetic material. Myth #2: Everyone is susceptible (immunologically naive). Reality: Pre-existing or cross-immunity is widespread, and moreover children almost universally enjoy robust innate immunity. Myth #3: The virus is deadly. Recent polls revealed that the average member of the public believes the infection fatality rate (IFR) is 20 to 38%. Reality: Ioannidis’ study, the most comprehensive to date, reveals the global IFR for under 70s to be 0.05%, with almost all fatalities involving serious comorbidities. For the median risk member of the population the IFR is less than 0.01%, meaning that for most people risk is negligible. Myth #4: Lockdowns are effective at reducing deaths. Reality: More than 50 studies have shown that lockdowns have no material beneficial effect on Covid mortality, and that they worsen overall mortality outcomes when non-Covid collateral harms are factored in. Lockdown had no place in prior public health or pandemic respiratory virus guidelines, existing as a fringe idea among people who advocated militarized approaches to pandemics that completely contradicted public health and epidemiological practice and theory. Myth #5: Cloth mask mandates are effective. Reality: The most comprehensive study to date, by the European CDC, demonstrated that almost all papers supporting cloth mask use were of low evidentiary value, and most exhibited signs of bias. The WHO admitted that its reversal on mask efficacy was politically motivated. There is no sign in the international epidemic data of mask efficacy. Behavioural science teams have been revealed to have deployed masks as a tool of psychological warfare (to increase compliance with public health measures). Masking as source control is inconsistent with aerosol transmission. Myth #6: Transmission is by droplets and fomites, so masks, sanitizing, stickers, social distancing and perspex screens are effective. Reality: The most comprehensive study to date, by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, found no evidence supporting droplet and fomite transmission. Airborne aerosol transmission has the most evidentiary support, as for other respiratory viruses. Almost all the countermeasures deployed at great cost have no basis in science. Myth #7: Asymptomatic transmission is a driver of the epidemic. Reality: Primary evidence suggests the opposite is the case—that asymptomatic infected people share small innocula, acting beneficially to spread and boost immune recognition. Asymptomatic cases are very rarely index cases in disease transmission, and somewhat less rarely of infection transmission. Myth #8: PCR testing at high cycle thresholds is appropriate. A positive result proves a case of disease or causality in a death. Reality: PCR testing is not competent for diagnosis of COVID, or detection of “cases”, infections or infectedness. In particular, when deployed at high “cycle thresholds”, it is prone to generating epidemiological false positives, with severe economic consequences. Myth #9: COVID is untreatable. Nothing can be done until a patient arrives at hospital, at which point they should be ventilated and put on Remdesivir. Reality: Early intervention in the 6-8 day window when the disease enters its inflammatory phase has been shown to be remarkably effective, reducing deaths drastically eliminating most deaths. Remdesivir and early ventilation have killed many. Off-label drugs have shown efficacy in many studies, yet are the targets of obvious propaganda by pharmaceutical companies and captured media. Myth #10: The vaccines materially prevent transmission. Reality: By their very mechanism of action, injectable vaccines cannot and do not materially prevent transmission. This is not even a claim made by their manufacturers, but by politicians and conflicted scientists. There is no evidence for transmission reduction in the international epidemic data. The “greater good” argument is wrong. Myth #11: The vaccines are about 95% effective. Reality: Manipulation of the trials to hide pronounced initial negative efficacy owing to immunosuppression has been ubiquitous. Actual efficacy is lower than indicated, and apparently also negative after 20 weeks or so. “Real world studies” double up this error by treating the recently vaccinated as unvaccinated, a move that represents nothing less than a gross scientific fraud. Myth #12: The vaccines are so safe that nobody should hesitate to take one. Reality: The vaccines have triggered unprecedented levels of adverse events in multiple countries. The mechanisms of action for these adverse events are known. We field continuous reports of wilful and draconian suppression of adverse event reporting in South Africa and elsewhere, and of an omerta in the halls of public health. There may be a group of people for whom benefits exceed harms, but until our requests for data transparency are complied with, it is difficult to tell how big this group is. Myth #13: Everybody will benefit from vaccination. Reality: The current vaccines may pass the hurdle for net benefit for the vulnerable, non-recovered minority. The majority of the population, including the young and the recovered, suffer net harms from vaccination. Myth #14: Natural immunity is less broad, durable and strong than synthetic immunity. Reality: By its very mechanisms of action, synthetic immunity is much narrower than natural. Natural immunity confers medium-term sterilizing immunity, while synthetic immunity cannot. By invoking a greater range of immune response, natural immunity can be assumed to provide more durable and flexible (against variants) protection than synthetic. Myth #15: Science is an institution and its authorities’ perspectives are infallible and final. Reality: Science is a process that only proceeds by robust conjecture and criticism. Myth #16: Long COVID is an unusual and dangerous component of the epidemic. Reality: Sequelae appear to be no more common for COVID than for other respiratory viruses. Where Long COVID clinics have been established, they have quietly been closed, unutilized. Myth #17: Containment is possible for contagious respiratory viruses. Reality: Zero COVID policies have failed wherever they have been attempted. Animal reservoirs make them futile. Myth #18: “Pandemicity”. Pandemics are going to occur more often because there is more contact between humans and animals and because humans are more connected. Reality: Urbanisation and commercial farming practices have reduced human-animal contact. Interconnectedness of humans means that many mild viruses are distributed worldwide, ensuring that immune systems recognize more deadly variants that may emerge. Contrast this with the fate of the indigenous peoples of South America when they were first exposed to European diseases. Myth #19: Reducing spread reduces deaths. Reality: Reducing spread by restricting the mobility of the non-vulnerable shifts disease burden onto the vulnerable, causing more of them to be struck down before endemicity is attained. Myth #20: Escalation of perceived threat is in the interests of public health. Reality: Perceived threat drives hysteria, leading to pronounced and deadly nocebo effects (effects of negative expectations on outcomes, the opposite of placebo effects). TLDNR! I’m just gonna go get another booster instead. It’s easier to stay stupid than to do anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Manitoba quit posting daily Hospitalizations and now are only posting a 4 week average they’re panicking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: TLDNR! I’m just gonna go get another booster instead. It’s easier to stay stupid than to do anything else. Noooooòoooooo. It's futile. But get a boost anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Noooooòoooooo. It's futile. But get a boost anyways. Got it. Stay at 39 and under! Perfectly safe if all vaccinated then. 40 has a history of being a deadly number anyway. LOL…who is still listening to these imbeciles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomxz600 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Got it. Stay at 39 and under! Perfectly safe if all vaccinated then. 40 has a history of being a deadly number anyway. LOL…who is still listening to these imbeciles? about 70% of the US population right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Got it. Stay at 39 and under! Perfectly safe if all vaccinated then. 40 has a history of being a deadly number anyway. LOL…who is still listening to these imbeciles? The morons who still think this is about a virus. They must litteraly be laughing at the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, Doomxz600 said: about 70% of the US population right now I don't think so, much much lower. Now come to Canada if you want to witness complete ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doomxz600 said: about 70% of the US population right now I’d say 40. There a big percentage that are patronizing them still for some reason. At a certain point, you let the baby cry itself to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Don't wanna listen to real experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Oh another thing the cult fell for was they were sure most people would end up permanently disfigured by the rones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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