Ez ryder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, akvanden said: Why would anyone believe in that? https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf So as you full know for over 3 yrs the story was not sold as Russian interference but Trump collusion with Russia. So do you still buy that story that was reported as fact for over 3 yrs on virtually every media outlet in the world ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, akvanden said: Why would anyone believe in that? https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf Because people like you are life loser morons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 8:39 AM, Mainecat said: WTF? QAnon Believers Gather In Dallas Awaiting Return Of Long-Dead JFK Jr. Source: Forbes QAnon supporters have reportedly gathered in Dallas, Texas, in anticipation of the return of John F. Kennedy Jr., who they believe will announce a 2024 presidential run alongside Donald Trump, despite being dead for 22 years—the latest crackpot claim from a movement that believes the world is run by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles. Journalist Steven Monacelli posted pictures to Twitter Monday of a crowd gathered at the AT&T Discovery District in downtown Dallas with many wearing “Trump/JFK Jr. 2024” shirts ahead of an expected announcement from Kennedy on Tuesday at Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated in 1963. Monacelli posted an update Tuesday from Dealey Plaza showing a growing gathering in anticipation of the “announcement” from his son. According to various QAnon conspiracy theories, the younger Kennedy is expected to emerge from two decades of hiding to be named vice president to a reinstated Trump, who in turn will become “king of kings,” Newsweek reported. Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/teakvetenadze/2021/11/02/qanon-believers-gather-in-dallas-awaiting-return-of-long-dead-jfk-jr/ See also ... Hundreds of QAnon Fans Are Going to Texas to See JFK Return. No, Seriously. https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgd85a/qanon-dallas-jfk-trump You be sure and drink allllllllll the coolaid they are serving up here. i mean, we all know everyone there is a Qanon supporter. they couldnt be anything else now could they. the science is settled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: So as you full know for over 3 yrs the story was not sold as Russian interference but Trump collusion with Russia. So do you still buy that story that was reported as fact for over 3 yrs on virtually every media outlet in the world ? True, more accurate to say collusion between Trump campaign advisors and overall Russian interference. 21 minutes ago, ACE said: Because people like you are life loser morons Your responses are so on-topic that I have a hard time thinking of rebuttals at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, akvanden said: True, more accurate to say collusion between Trump campaign advisors and overall Russian interference Lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Lies I know, I know, but some people forget. First sentence of the bi-partisan intelligence committee's findings: "The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election." and then later regarding Paul Manafort: "The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, akvanden said: I know, I know, but some people forget. First sentence of the bi-partisan intelligence committee's findings: "The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election." and then later regarding Paul Manafort: "The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat." From late March to early Aug when Trump fired him . And still zero charges or trials showing any influence or payouts or intell. Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump so this is collision now? If so why are no charges going on with old Joe's kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted November 4, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, akvanden said: I know, I know, but some people forget. First sentence of the bi-partisan intelligence committee's findings: "The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election." and then later regarding Paul Manafort: "The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat." Here's who tried to influence the election, arrest was made today.. FBI arrests Steele dossier sub-source as part of Durham investigation https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-arrests-steele-dossier-sub-source-durham-investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) On 11/4/2021 at 10:57 AM, Ez ryder said: From late March to early Aug when Trump fired him . And still zero charges or trials showing any influence or payouts or intell. Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump so this is collision now? If so why are no charges going on with old Joe's kid? A foreign entity acquiring confidential information from inside the campaign while actively trying to influence the outcome of said election.... wouldn't be interference? Maybe he was just passing on information to be friendly. "The two criminal trials of Paul Manafort were the first cases brought to trial by the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election." Where he pleaded guilty to many accounts, one of which was "conspiracy against the United States" Edited December 12, 2022 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 This fuckin idiot still believes in collusion you know who actually did conspire with foreign agents? The Hillary campaign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted November 4, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: This fuckin idiot still believes in collusion you know who actually did conspire with foreign agents? The Hillary campaign Fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, akvanden said: A foreign entity acquiring confidential information from inside the campaign while actively trying to influence the outcome of said election.... wouldn't be collusion? Maybe he was just passing on information to be friendly. "The two criminal trials of Paul Manafort were the first cases brought to trial by the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election." Where he pleaded guilty to many accounts, one of which was "conspiracy against the United States" And was that conspiracy against tge united States have anything to do with the time frame he was working with Trump? Hu that's odd who was he under contract with during said conspiracy 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: And was that conspiracy against tge united States have anything to do with the time frame he was working with Trump? Hu that's odd who was he under contract with during said conspiracy 🤔 The collusion conspiracy theory narrative started out as criminal conspiracy or treason down to someone trump knows talked to a Russian person once and they’re still spiking that football thinking they won something when no Trump got charged with anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: This fuckin idiot still believes in collusion you know who actually did conspire with foreign agents? The Hillary campaign Still having a hard time staying on topic I see. 36 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Fact Which, doesn't have anything to do with this. 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: And was that conspiracy against tge united States have anything to do with the time frame he was working with Trump? Hu that's odd who was he under contract with during said conspiracy 🤔 It seems the committee found that it was during the time of the 2016 campaign - also the indictments that followed directly from that. We're in agreement with Russian interference, right? I know there's no reference to Trump directly, bet certainly individuals who worked on the campaign. "The two criminal trials of Paul Manafort were the first cases brought to trial by the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election." "The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, akvanden said: Still having a hard time staying on topic I see. Which, doesn't have anything to do with this. It seems the committee found that it was during the time of the 2016 campaign - also the indictments that followed directly from that. We're in agreement with Russian interference, right? I know there's no reference to Trump directly, bet certainly individuals who worked on the campaign. "The two criminal trials of Paul Manafort were the first cases brought to trial by the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election." "The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat" You already understand what the diff is between created opportunities and collusion are so we can stop this sillyness right here . And again what charges did Paul plead out to regarding anything to do with Trump? Or the Trump campain time frame? And who was he under contract with at the time his crimes were committed he plead to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Now, PR Executive-1 made up a false story about the resignation of "Campaign Manager 1," who I assume must be short-term Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. He contrived a story based on public news reports to "drive a stake through the heart" of the Trump campaign. He claimed the information came from a "GOP friend." I don't know what his story was. Sounds like one of those many, many "anonymous GOP sources" the media is always basing stories on. It was a lie. He made it up. And Danchenko peddled this lie to the FBI, and then lied to the FBI about where the information had come from. http://ace.mu.nu/archives/prexeclies.png Danchenko also lied about having travelled to Moscow to gather information -- he did travel there, but much too late to have gathered the information he claimed to have gathered. He lied in order to claim that he had gathered the information from Russian sources, when in fact he'd gotten them from this Hillary Clinton Operative in America. Do read the whole thing. There's more. https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-igor-danchenko-indictment Edited November 4, 2021 by Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: You already understand what the diff is between created opportunities and collusion are so we can stop this sillyness right here . And again what charges did Paul plead out to regarding anything to do with Trump? Or the Trump campain time frame? And who was he under contract with at the time his crimes were committed he plead to ? Yeah, we can stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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