akvanden Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ckf said: Yup. Who says one"expert" is better than the other? As I have been saying, everyone should talk with their doctor and then make the decision that is best for them. I wouldn't be hitching my wagon to either side right now, but carry on. It's entertaining to watch Well, there are certain standards. Antivaxxer doctors (even precovid) have been in hot water for a long time. Turns out those darn medical licenses aren’t just given out to anyone, and can be suspended or taken away. Below is a local quack in the twin cities. https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-pediatrician-disciplined-for-discouraging-childhood-vaccines/600087021/?clmob=y&c=n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ckf said: Maybe it would be a good time for the US to invade and take over? I think we could also snag Mexico by years end too Grab Cuba too.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, akvanden said: Well, there are certain standards. Antivaxxer doctors (even precovid) have been in hot water for a long time. Turns out those darn medical licenses aren’t just given out to anyone, and can be suspended or taken away. Below is a local quack in the twin cities. https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-pediatrician-disciplined-for-discouraging-childhood-vaccines/600087021/?clmob=y&c=n I'm pretty sure I said to speak to your doctor and not by what is posted by either side on the internet, or the media for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, Mainecat said: Grab Cuba too.:) Forgot all about the cigars to celebrate with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ckf said: I'm pretty sure I said to speak to your doctor and not by what is posted by either side on the internet, or the media for that matter. The reference was in your reply to your comment “who’s to say one expert is better than another” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, akvanden said: The reference was in your reply to your comment “who’s to say one expert is better than another” With the internet we can find a so claimed experts on both sides of almost every argument. The moon landing, round vs flat earth, climate change and so on.... We all should know that our government isn't always 100% honest with us at all times. I can understand why some don't trust everything that is said. With that said, I got the vaccine after consulting with my primary doctor and my neurologist. If I was still in my 30's or 40's and was 100% healthy I'm not sure if I would get the shot right away. We really don't know what the long term effects are going to be Everyone's situation is different and everyone should at the very least consult with their medical provider before making any medical decision. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ckf said: Maybe it would be a good time for the US to invade and take over? I think we could also snag Mexico by years end too Who wants either one. We can't even take care of ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Skidude600 said: Who wants either one. We can't even take care of ourselves. It would look better on the map if Alaska was connected to the lower 48 I hear Baja is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, akvanden said: Well, there are certain standards. Antivaxxer doctors (even precovid) have been in hot water for a long time. Turns out those darn medical licenses aren’t just given out to anyone, and can be suspended or taken away. Below is a local quack in the twin cities. https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-pediatrician-disciplined-for-discouraging-childhood-vaccines/600087021/?clmob=y&c=n Pretty sad for the American medical system and public in general when doctors get in hot water for raising legitimate concerns. Have you ever seen the statistics on the amount of vaccinations we give our children and how it correlates to the rise in Autism? While I think a significant portion is due to we diagnose Autism much more but the data in America and vaccines as compares to other countries is simply too much to ignore. Watch at the 1:00 mark. If his statistics are accurate its stunning. His statement is so true. The problem with vaccines is their history has been so great to question anything about them is now wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ckf said: It would look better on the map if Alaska was connected to the lower 48 I hear Baja is nice Can't we just take the parts we want then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ckf said: Maybe it would be a good time for the US to invade and take over? I think we could also snag Mexico by years end too We already have them both from what I can see. We are just pretending we don’t. 24 minutes ago, ckf said: With the internet we can find a so claimed experts on both sides of almost every argument. The moon landing, round vs flat earth, climate change and so on.... We all should know that our government isn't always 100% honest with us at all times. I can understand why some don't trust everything that is said. With that said, I got the vaccine after consulting with my primary doctor and my neurologist. If I was still in my 30's or 40's and was 100% healthy I'm not sure if I would get the shot right away. We really don't know what the long term effects are going to be Everyone's situation is different and everyone should at the very least consult with their medical provider before making any medical decision. Quality post. 21 minutes ago, Highmark said: Pretty sad for the American medical system and public in general when doctors get in hot water for raising legitimate concerns. Have you ever seen the statistics on the amount of vaccinations we give our children and how it correlates to the rise in Autism? While I think a significant portion is due to we diagnose Autism much more but the data in America and vaccines as compares to other countries is simply too much to ignore. Watch at the 1:00 mark. If his statistics are accurate its stunning. His statement is so true. The problem with vaccines is their history has been so great to question anything about them is now wrong. And another. 19 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: Can't we just take the parts we want then? This is a good idea. But it’s, “give back” what we don’t want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Zambroski said: Ahhh…this is you “not taking a stance” again I see. How is me laughing at you guys and your internet wisdom taking a stance?I just find it funny is all,who woulda thunk the smartest experts on covid reside on FS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, akvanden said: Sad. I didn’t capitalize my ‘a’ at the start of my sentence either, Doc. Like I said, and you ignored, your quack “medical practice” will slowly be stuck at home, by itself, for your safety. If you can prove me wrong please do. If not I’ll carry on ignoring health mandates. Especially these anti science ones that put my family at risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 hours ago, ckf said: Yup. Who says one"expert" is better than the other? As I have been saying, everyone should talk with their doctor and then make the decision that is best for them. I wouldn't be hitching my wagon to either side right now, but carry on. It's entertaining to watch That’s been my point the entire time I’m not against the vaccine. It’s 100% individual specific. This illness is quite selective about who it hurts and if you’re in that category then the vaccines may very well be beneficial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, HSR said: How is me laughing at you guys and your internet wisdom taking a stance?I just find it funny is all,who woulda thunk the smartest experts on covid reside on FS Or maybe the smartest of us on FS have been listening to actual experts the entire time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, HSR said: How is me laughing at you guys and your internet wisdom taking a stance?I just find it funny is all,who woulda thunk the smartest experts on covid reside on FS You seem mad and bitter about it. That’s funny to me. It’s also clear your stance is pro-vax. Nothing wrong with that. Why are you so embarrassed to admit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You seem mad and bitter about it. That’s funny to me. It’s also clear your stance is pro-vax. Nothing wrong with that. Why are you so embarrassed to admit it? Aren’t we all pro vax in certain situations? it’s the mass vaxx that are conspiracy theorists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ckf said: Maybe it would be a good time for the US to invade and take over? I think we could also snag Mexico by years end too You Americans, might want to re-think that. Our 2 ships, and 3 fighter planes are ready to strike, within 72 hours notice, so we can get the batteries and fuel into them. Please tread carefully. Thanks 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You seem mad and bitter about it. assigning feelings So desperate for a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, HSR said: assigning feelings So desperate for a fight. Says the guy who believes in feelings over facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, ACE said: Says the guy who believes in feelings over facts assigning positions . So desperate for a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, HSR said: assigning positions . So desperate for a fight. Dang you’re still mad as frig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ACE said: Dang you’re still mad as frig No u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 At all of you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, HSR said: No u Why are you so anti science tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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