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02sled Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Wow. It's so easy to find evidence of communism failing miserably and millions of people killed because of communism. It's so easy to just copy this stuff like dumbass Motonoggin rather than actually hit a few keys and actually post what you believe you think you believe. Moto still has yet to describe what his vision of Utopia is. He just says search and read the propaganda for yourself. Edited January 15, 2017 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Again, attempts at communism failed because of authoritarianism. Most of these self described communist states were state socialist/capitalist at best. Communism is a stateless, classless society. Until we actually see one, it is not true communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Again, attempts at communism failed because of authoritarianism. Most of these self described communist states were state socialist/capitalist at best. Communism is a stateless, classless society. Until we actually see one, it is not true communism. so says the wannabe communist who doesn't practice what he preaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, 02sled said: so says the wannabe communist who doesn't practice what he preaches Do you think the DPRK is democratic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Do you think the DPRK is democratic? It's a very complex form of democracy with elected representation by the people. The very large national legislature, numbering something like 300 representatives only have a 4 year term. Obviously not the same democracy as you are used to but still a democracy. But then again every democratic country has a variation on their electoral process. The US electoral process is different to Canada which is different to Australia etc. Most definitely South Korea is vastly different than North Korea which is probably a place you admire. So here we are again.... you have yet to actually express your belief or vision of anything other than communism is good. You have never defined your vision of what communism is. One can only assume you don't have one and simply rely on the BS propaganda you read through your rose coloured glasses. I can't wait for your next propaganda poster you pull off the internet rather than express your own thoughts, Edited January 15, 2017 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 47 minutes ago, 02sled said: It's a very complex form of democracy with elected representation by the people. The very large national legislature, numbering something like 300 representatives only have a 4 year term. Obviously not the same democracy as you are used to but still a democracy. But then again every democratic country has a variation on their electoral process. The US electoral process is different to Canada which is different to Australia etc. Most definitely South Korea is vastly different than North Korea which is probably a place you admire. So here we are again.... you have yet to actually express your belief or vision of anything other than communism is good. You have never defined your vision of what communism is. One can only assume you don't have one and simply rely on the BS propaganda you read through your rose coloured glasses. I can't wait for your next propaganda poster you pull off the internet rather than express your own thoughts, You fucking boner, the DPRK is North Korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 And I've said a thousand times by now that communism is a stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production. If that's not a good enough description, and you want some rosy picture painted for you that you will subsequently shit all over, I can't help ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, motonoggin said: You fucking boner, the DPRK is North Korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: And I've said a thousand times by now that communism is a stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production. If that's not a good enough description, and you want some rosy picture painted for you that you will subsequently shit all over, I can't help ya. can you get any more generic.... do you have some people living in really nice houses, others in nice houses and yet others in shacks or does everyone live in the same basic size house do you have some with snowmobiles and boats and others that don't or does everyone do without unless everyone can have a snowmobile and boat does everyone get to have a cottage to spend their weekends and vacation at or does nobody have one since those with more than one place would have to give up the second to house that live in a shack or converted school bus are you prepared to scale back your lifestyle to the common denominator for all - forget your comfortable home, your jeep or anything else like that. Get ready for your 600 sq. ft. cabin and beat up Kia so that everyone can have the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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