Inventor of mRNA vaccine concerned by stats suggesting COVID surge in most-vaccinated countries

[Highmark]

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/inventor-of-mrna-vaccine-concerned-by-stats-suggesting-covid-surge-in-most-vaxxed-countries

July 20, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — The inventor of the mRNA technology behind at least two of the experimental COVID-19 gene-therapy vaccines expressed grave concern regarding a trend where the most “vaccinated” countries in the world are experiencing surges in COVID-19 cases, while the least vaccinated nations are not.

Dr. Robert Malone, M.D., M.S., an internationally recognized scientist in the areas of virology, immunology and molecular biology, tweeted “This is worrying me quite a bit” while attaching a viral Twitter thread by Corona Realism utilizing the “thread reader” app.

The Corona Realism presentation, originally in German, summarizes these “really odd” numbers stating, “n Europe we are seeing surges at many places where most of the population has already been vaccinated. At the same time, the 15 least vaccinated countries don‘t seem to face any problem. At some point, denying this problem will get painful.”

The graphs presented reveal how the highly-vaccinated countries of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Malta, have all experienced spikes in cases, while fifteen other low-vaccination nations, have not experienced such spikes.

[irv]

Who seen this coming? I mean, with covid cases, after the vaccines, popping up all over the place for quite a while now, who would deny these vaccines are doing what they were suppose to do instead of causing more cases? 

[Highmark]

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FRWMaloneMD%2Fstatus%2F1417824615313907714&widget=Tweet

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/18/5522-people-have-died-within-28-days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-scotland-according-to-public-health-scotland/

5,522 people have died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in Scotland according to Public Health Scotland

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Highmark

[Highmark]

13 minutes ago, irv said:

Who seen this coming? I mean, with covid cases, after the vaccines, popping up all over the place for quite a while now, who would deny these vaccines are doing what they were suppose to do instead of causing more cases? 

Here's what is worrisome.  The world has pushed the jab so fucking hard even IF things go south with the vaccines they will protect their original message NO MATTER WHAT.   Now I'm not claiming (significant vaccine issues) that is happening or will happen but its pretty clear there are some things going on with the jab that aren't getting the attention they should.  I truly feel more people could die from the jab than have from the virus and they would be like "its still was worth it...we saved lives."   That's FUBAR.   

Edited July 21, 2021 by Highmark

[irv]

6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Here's what is worrisome.  The world has pushed the jab so fucking hard even IF things go south with them they will protect their original message NO MATTER WHAT.   I truly feel more people could die from the jab than have from the virus and they would be like "its still was worth it."   That's FUBAR.   

I agree. No way will they admit anything different even if the truth slaps them right in the face. With their funded media behind them as well, all will be denied or they will come up with a new shiny pony to deflect attention away from it all. 

Edited July 21, 2021 by irv

[Highmark]

19 minutes ago, irv said:

I agree. No way will they admit anything different even if the truth slaps them right in the face. With their funded media behind them as well, all will be denied or they will come up with a new shiny pony to deflect attention away from it all. 

From the get go they have been disingenuous with the information and has always been my biggest issue with it.

1. Counting deaths as COVID that had zero to do with the virus.  Car crashes etc....

2. Counting deaths from COVID which obviously were caused by other underlying health issues. On ave 2.6 co-morbidities. 

3. Not using the same metrics/formulas when calculating deaths like they do with influenza that include people who were positive but were never tested because of mild or no symptoms.  This would have decreased the mortality rate exponentially.  

4.  Little to no talk about increasing your bodies ability to fight infections with vitamins or weight loss.

5.  Lack of equal reporting when it comes to significant side effects or even death with the vaccine.

6.  Push for young and or healthy people to get vaccinated that have almost zero chance of dying from the virus.

7.  Exposing billions to vaccines that would never have gotten EUA if the truth were known about alternative treatments.

8.  Hiding putting infected in nursing homes.

9.  Not approving safe alternatives even with EUA of the vaccine.

10. No discussion on "herd immunity" when accounting for people with natural immunity.

11.  Condemnation of any message other than their own.   This is likely the most disturbing one. 

12.  Unequal treatment of what companies are essential.   Big corps yep....mom and pop shops fuck you.  

The list could go on and on.

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Highmark

[irv]

9 minutes ago, Highmark said:

From the get go they have been disingenuous with the information and has always been my biggest issue with it.

1. Counting deaths as COVID that had zero to do with the virus.  Car crashes etc....

2. Counting deaths from COVID which obviously were caused by other underlying health issues. On ave 2.6 co-morbidities. 

3. Not using the same metrics/formulas when calculating deaths like they do with influenza that include people who were positive but were never tested because of mild or no symptoms.  This would have decreased the mortality rate exponentially.  

4.  Little to no talk about increasing your bodies ability to fight infections with vitamins or weight loss.

5.  Lack of equal reporting when it comes to significant side effects or even death with the vaccine.

6.  Push for young and or healthy people to get vaccinated that have almost zero chance of dying from the virus.

7.  Exposing billions to vaccines that would never have gotten EUA if the truth were known about alternative treatments.

8.  Hiding putting infected in nursing homes.

9.  Not approving safe alternatives even with EUA of the vaccine.

10. No discussion on "herd immunity" when accounting for people with natural immunity.

11.  Condemnation of any message other than their own.   This is likely the most disturbing one. 

12.  Unequal treatment of what companies are essential.   Big corps yep....mom and pop shops fuck you.  

The list could go on and on.

 

All undeniable points. 

[Mainecat]

Just what the fuck?

The inventor of the mRNA technology behind at least two of the experimental COVID-19 gene-therapy vaccines expressed grave concern regarding a trend where the most “vaccinated” countries in the world are experiencing surges in COVID-19 cases, while the least vaccinated nations are not.

[akvanden]

32 minutes ago, Highmark said:

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FRWMaloneMD%2Fstatus%2F1417824615313907714&widget=Tweet

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/18/5522-people-have-died-within-28-days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-scotland-according-to-public-health-scotland/

5,522 people have died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in Scotland according to Public Health Scotland

 

Good lord you guys are hard to keep up with. Talk about twisting data. Why not just publish how many deaths from fully vaccinated, IE two weeks after your 2nd shot? Why 28 days? Must not fit the "vaccine bad" narrative. This is the best quote from your link "This equates to an average of 920 deaths occurring every month due to the Covid-19 vaccines in Scotland alone." Holy shit, now 920 deaths from the vaccine, not from COVID?

 

"The latest data from Public Health Scotland also reveals that 41 Covid deaths have been reported in patients who were fully vaccinated against the disease"

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19442087.covid-scotland-41-covid-deaths-date-among-fully-vaccinated-scots/

 

41 deaths.

 

[Highmark]

1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

Just what the fuck?

The inventor of the mRNA technology behind at least two of the experimental COVID-19 gene-therapy vaccines expressed grave concern regarding a trend where the most “vaccinated” countries in the world are experiencing surges in COVID-19 cases, while the least vaccinated nations are not.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415989536933490688.html

 

[Highmark]

2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Good lord you guys are hard to keep up with. Talk about twisting data. Why not just publish how many deaths from fully vaccinated, IE two weeks after your 2nd shot? Why 28 days? Must not fit the "vaccine bad" narrative. This is the best quote from your link "This equates to an average of 920 deaths occurring every month due to the Covid-19 vaccines in Scotland alone." Holy shit, now 920 deaths from the vaccine, not from COVID?

 

"The latest data from Public Health Scotland also reveals that 41 Covid deaths have been reported in patients who were fully vaccinated against the disease"

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19442087.covid-scotland-41-covid-deaths-date-among-fully-vaccinated-scots/

 

41 deaths.

 

Twisting data?     That's rich. 

[Mainecat]

What I thought…

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/16/youtube-videos/no-sign-covid-19-vaccines-spike-protein-toxic-or-c/

[akvanden]

5 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Twisting data?     That's rich. 

What's the "within 28 days" then? Is that meaningful? 41 fully vaccinated vs an implied 5,522?

[Skidooski]

Fact Checkers -"Here's what you need to know!"

[akvanden]

2 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

Fact Checkers -"Here's what you need to know!"

Sorry to interrupt the self affirming circle jerk. "Ohhh look at this bad number" "oh yeah yeah, I knew it was bad, those idiots" "Hey, lets start some new threads and repeat all over again" "Yeah yeah, I'll post some memes" "Fauci lied to us, he's evil" "Yeah, my brother-in-law told me the same thing" "stupid sheep" 

 

[Skidooski]

5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Sorry to interrupt the self affirming circle jerk. "Ohhh look at this bad number" "oh yeah yeah, I knew it was bad, those idiots" "Hey, lets start some new threads and repeat all over again" "Yeah yeah, I'll post some memes" "Fauci lied to us, he's evil" "Yeah, my brother-in-law told me the same thing" "stupid sheep" 

 

Don't apologize for that word salad. There's a few more like you here

[irv]

9 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Sorry to interrupt the self affirming circle jerk. "Ohhh look at this bad number" "oh yeah yeah, I knew it was bad, those idiots" "Hey, lets start some new threads and repeat all over again" "Yeah yeah, I'll post some memes" "Fauci lied to us, he's evil" "Yeah, my brother-in-law told me the same thing" "stupid sheep" 

 

And you're willing to ignore all those post vaccine deaths as just collateral damage even though the statistics show healthy people without other comorbidities don't even need them. And you call us sheep even though it is as clear as it could be, your info comes from what you are told on the T.V. screen. 

Edited July 21, 2021 by irv

[Highmark]

15 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Sorry to interrupt the self affirming circle jerk. "Ohhh look at this bad number" "oh yeah yeah, I knew it was bad, those idiots" "Hey, lets start some new threads and repeat all over again" "Yeah yeah, I'll post some memes" "Fauci lied to us, he's evil" "Yeah, my brother-in-law told me the same thing" "stupid sheep" 

 

So you have a problem with a thread covering the same topic yet containing new data?     

[akvanden]

1 minute ago, Highmark said:

So you have a problem with a thread covering the same topic yet containing new data?     

"Data" - Yes.

 

What's the "within 28 days"? Is that meaningful? 41 fully vaccinated vs an implied 5,522?

[Highmark]

6 minutes ago, akvanden said:

"Data" - Yes.

 

What's the "within 28 days"? Is that meaningful? 41 fully vaccinated vs an implied 5,522?

Ask the guy who invented the mRNA vaccines, he is the one indicating a concern with it.   I'm just reporting what he is. 

I'd suggest a 11% increase is worthy of further research no matter the implied causation. 

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths-registered-in-scotland 

• There were 4,859 deaths registered in June 2021, an increase of 10.9 per cent compared to the average of 4,382 for the five Junes over the period 2015-2019. During March 2020 registration offices changed their procedures due to the Covid-19 pandemic in order to be able to register deaths by telephone or by electronic means. This continued in June 2021.

Edited July 21, 2021 by Highmark

[ford_428cj]

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

From the get go they have been disingenuous with the information and has always been my biggest issue with it.

1. Counting deaths as COVID that had zero to do with the virus.  Car crashes etc....

2. Counting deaths from COVID which obviously were caused by other underlying health issues. On ave 2.6 co-morbidities. 

3. Not using the same metrics/formulas when calculating deaths like they do with influenza that include people who were positive but were never tested because of mild or no symptoms.  This would have decreased the mortality rate exponentially.  

4.  Little to no talk about increasing your bodies ability to fight infections with vitamins or weight loss.

5.  Lack of equal reporting when it comes to significant side effects or even death with the vaccine.

6.  Push for young and or healthy people to get vaccinated that have almost zero chance of dying from the virus.

7.  Exposing billions to vaccines that would never have gotten EUA if the truth were known about alternative treatments.

8.  Hiding putting infected in nursing homes.

9.  Not approving safe alternatives even with EUA of the vaccine.

10. No discussion on "herd immunity" when accounting for people with natural immunity.

11.  Condemnation of any message other than their own.   This is likely the most disturbing one. 

12.  Unequal treatment of what companies are essential.   Big corps yep....mom and pop shops fuck you.  

The list could go on and on.

 

Nailed it ...

[akvanden]

The numbers come from your Scotland post, not the mRNA inventor. Bit disingenuous when only 41 fully vaccinated people have died, not 5,522.

[irv]

12 minutes ago, akvanden said:

The numbers come from your Scotland post, not the mRNA inventor. Bit disingenuous when only 41 fully vaccinated people have died, not 5,522.

So, you think that is acceptable from a vaccine that is suppose to protect and make you immune from getting covid? This is only one article about the number of deaths as there are literally 100's, or even thousands that have died from the vaccines.  As long as you and your family made out OK, then it's worth it to you and everyone should get it, including children in your mind. 

From April this year. I'm sure all numbers are up since then if they were investigated and noted?

So far, 5,800 fully vaccinated people have caught COVID-19 anyway in U.S., CDC says.

Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/so-far-5-800-fully-vaccinated-people-have-caught-covid-19-anyway-in-u-s-cdc-says-1.5388245 

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...zeneca-vaccine
https://globalnews.ca/video/7815211/...zeneca-vaccine
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

Warriors' Damion Lee tested positive for COVID-19 despite full vaccination

Lee went on to describe the symptoms he experienced, including headache, chills, sneezing, congestion, soreness, body aches, and what he described as "brain fog" — where he'd lost track of what he was talking about five minutes into a conversation. "It felt like I was hit by a car, hit by two cars at once," he added.
https://theathletic.com/news/warrior...n/muRvt49vKYuI
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/gol...032701485.html

Why are they withholding this info from the Public??

The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/

We are still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and washing your hands often. CDC will continue to update recommendations as we know more.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ect/after.html
 

1.3% of Canada’s COVID-19 cases had 1st vaccine: PHAC
Two hundred and three people were hospitalized and 53 people died of COVID-19 after receiving one shot of the vaccine, PHAC added.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7829119/c...t-dose-canada/
 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html 

Why emergency COVID-vaccine approvals pose a dilemma for scientists
Immunizations are speeding towards approval before clinical trials end, but scientists say this could complicate efforts to study long-term effects.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03219-y

B.C. man has part of small intestine removed due to vaccine-induced blood clot
"I really wish they had let us know what “worse case scenario” might look like...""
https://www.torontosun.com/news/loca...f-81de5fd6d4c0

Family left with questions after Brampton senior's death.
https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ive-days-later
 

Are there so many of these breakthrough cases that they couldn't keep up???

"At the start of May, the CDC shifted from monitoring all reported breakthroughs to only those that result in hospitalization or death, Tom Clark, head of the vaccine evaluation unit for the CDC’s vaccine task force, said in an interview"
https://fortune.com/2021/05/10/can-y...cases-tracing/

 

[SayatodaU.P.eh?]

1 hour ago, akvanden said:

Sorry to interrupt the self affirming circle jerk. "Ohhh look at this bad number" "oh yeah yeah, I knew it was bad, those idiots" "Hey, lets start some new threads and repeat all over again" "Yeah yeah, I'll post some memes" "Fauci lied to us, he's evil" "Yeah, my brother-in-law told me the same thing" "stupid sheep" 

 

Again, then why are you here? Oh fuck, I forgot, the SJW gig. My bad. 

[akvanden]

23 minutes ago, irv said:

So, you think that is acceptable from a vaccine that is suppose to protect and make you immune from getting covid? This is only one article about the number of deaths as there are literally 100's, or even thousands that have died from the vaccines.  As long as you and your family made out OK, then it's worth it to you and everyone should get it, including children in your mind. 

From April this year. I'm sure all numbers are up since then if they were investigated and noted?

So far, 5,800 fully vaccinated people have caught COVID-19 anyway in U.S., CDC says.

Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/so-far-5-800-fully-vaccinated-people-have-caught-covid-19-anyway-in-u-s-cdc-says-1.5388245 

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...zeneca-vaccine
https://globalnews.ca/video/7815211/...zeneca-vaccine
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

Warriors' Damion Lee tested positive for COVID-19 despite full vaccination

Lee went on to describe the symptoms he experienced, including headache, chills, sneezing, congestion, soreness, body aches, and what he described as "brain fog" — where he'd lost track of what he was talking about five minutes into a conversation. "It felt like I was hit by a car, hit by two cars at once," he added.
https://theathletic.com/news/warrior...n/muRvt49vKYuI
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/gol...032701485.html

Why are they withholding this info from the Public??

The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/

We are still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and washing your hands often. CDC will continue to update recommendations as we know more.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ect/after.html
 

1.3% of Canada’s COVID-19 cases had 1st vaccine: PHAC
Two hundred and three people were hospitalized and 53 people died of COVID-19 after receiving one shot of the vaccine, PHAC added.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7829119/c...t-dose-canada/
 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html 

Why emergency COVID-vaccine approvals pose a dilemma for scientists
Immunizations are speeding towards approval before clinical trials end, but scientists say this could complicate efforts to study long-term effects.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03219-y

B.C. man has part of small intestine removed due to vaccine-induced blood clot
"I really wish they had let us know what “worse case scenario” might look like...""
https://www.torontosun.com/news/loca...f-81de5fd6d4c0

Family left with questions after Brampton senior's death.
https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ive-days-later
 

Are there so many of these breakthrough cases that they couldn't keep up???

"At the start of May, the CDC shifted from monitoring all reported breakthroughs to only those that result in hospitalization or death, Tom Clark, head of the vaccine evaluation unit for the CDC’s vaccine task force, said in an interview"
https://fortune.com/2021/05/10/can-y...cases-tracing/

 

162,000,000 have been fully vaccinated in the US. If the claimed efficacy rate of 95% is true, that would mean 8,100,000 - I don't think we're there yet. 

Edited July 21, 2021 by akvanden