jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Anler said: I dont even know what to think anymore. I was completely convinced that the dems were trying to lose on purpose and maybe they still are. But pandering to the hooligans that are rioting and burning is a bad message. And ffs the hooligans are railing against the cops and then endorse a life long politician who sponsored more crime legistlation aimed at them and who appoints a cop for VP? What is the fuck kind of bizzarro world are we living in? Exactly Bizzar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Not even close If this country falls to this madness you aren't guaranteed it will be better that's a fact. Could it be sure but will it be there is no way to say yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 The civil unrest is going to sweep across America. This is just the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 hours ago, f7ben said: I hope the Dems hold the house and somehow take the Senate. Biden isn’t going to beat Trump. Would be awesome if they impeached and then convicted Trump and we could have our civil war and burn the whole country to the ground Don't you worry about Auni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you?????????????? Don't you fukkin realize that a family member could get caught-up in this fukkin negro nightmare going on???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, jtssrx said: If this country falls to this madness you aren't guaranteed it will be better that's a fact. Could it be sure but will it be there is no way to say yes If the US goes socialist, who will be left on the planet to sabotage other aspiring socialist governments???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, motonoggin said: If the US goes socialist, who will be left on the planet to sabotage other aspiring socialist governments???? How did the US Sabotage Hugo Chevas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Anler said: I dont even know what to think anymore. I was completely convinced that the dems were trying to lose on purpose and maybe they still are. But pandering to the hooligans that are rioting and burning is a bad message. And ffs the hooligans are railing against the cops and then endorse a life long politician who sponsored more crime legistlation aimed at them and who appoints a cop for VP? What is the fuck kind of bizzarro world are we living in? That's a gross mischaracterization of the political makeup of the blm movement. They aren't a monolith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, jtssrx said: How did the US Sabotage Hugo Chevas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, motonoggin said: Answer the question. If Socailzm works why isn't every person in Venezuela rich? They have the largest in reserves in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, jtssrx said: Answer the question. If Socailzm works why isn't every person in Venezuela rich? They have the largest in reserves in the world Dude, I'm not going to spoon feed you historical events. Use the Google machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, jtssrx said: How did the US Sabotage Hugo Chevas??? By launching an actual fucking Coup attempt you moron? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: By launching an actual fucking Coup attempt you moron? It's like every day is his first day on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: It's like every day is his first day on earth. And then he starts all over the next day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: By launching an actual fucking Coup attempt you moron? Several Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: By launching an actual fucking Coup attempt you moron? Just now, motonoggin said: It's like every day is his first day on earth. Lmao you two are the two biggest providers of zero information on the site. Venezuela Was he hailed by leftists like you to as the greatest thing. If it was so great why did Hugo Chavez turn every citizen into a wealthy individual? Don’t give me some bullshit that the US try to overthrow him that has nothing to do with the results of socialism in his country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, jtssrx said: How did the US Sabotage Hugo Chevas??? Just now, jtssrx said: Lmao you two are the two biggest providers of zero information on the site. Venezuela Was he hailed by leftists like you to as the greatest thing. If it was so great why did Hugo Chavez turn every citizen into a wealthy individual? Don’t give me some bullshit that the US try to overthrow him that has nothing to do with the results of socialism in his country. You are dumb as fuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Lmao you two are the two biggest providers of zero information on the site. Venezuela Was he hailed by leftists like you to as the greatest thing. If it was so great why did Hugo Chavez turn every citizen into a wealthy individual? Don’t give me some bullshit that the US try to overthrow him that has nothing to do with the results of socialism in his country. When he nationalized their oil he paid off the IMF and their national debt in short order. Decreased poverty by like 30% and increased literacy by about the same. If you look at our other "conflicts" around the world at the same time it was all oil rich countries. You dont see the problem the global cabal would have with independent oil producers? Edit. I was a bit off on my numbers. Info is frm 2012 With regard to these social determinants of health indicators, Venezuela is now the country in the region with the lowest inequality level (measured by the Gini Coefficient) having reduced inequality by 54%, poverty by 44%. Poverty has been reduced from 70.8% (1996) to 21% (2010). And extreme poverty reduced from 40% (1996) to a very low level of 7.3% (2010). About 20 million people have benefited from anti-poverty programs, called “Misiones” (Up to now, 2.1 million elderly people have received old-age pensions – that is 66% of the population while only 387,000 received pensions before the current government. Education is a key determinant of both health and poverty and the Bolivarian government has placed a particular emphasis on education allotting it more than 6% of GDP. UNESCO has recognized that illiteracy been eliminated furthermore, Venezuela is the 3rd county in the region whose population reads the most. There is tuition free education from daycare to university; 72% of children attend public daycares and 85% of school age children attend school. There are thousands of new or refurbished schools, including 10 new universities. The country places 2nd in Latin America and 5th in the world with the greatest proportions of university students. In fact, 1 out of every 3 Venezuelans are enrolled in some educational program.[ii] . It is also a great achievement that Venezuela is now tied with Finland as the 5th country with the happiest population in the world.[iii] . Edited August 25, 2020 by Anler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Anler said: When he nationalized their oil he paid off the IMF and their national debt in short order. Decreased poverty by like 30% and increased literacy by about the same. If you look at our other "conflicts" around the world at the same time it was all oil rich countries. You dont see the problem the global cabal would have with independent oil producers? Those things didn’t work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, jtssrx said: Those things didn’t work They absolutely did. Look at my edit above. Venezuelas current issues do have some blame in their socialist constructs and corruption but it is mostly due to International sanctions and oil manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anler said: They absolutely did. Look at my edit above. Venezuelas current issues do have some blame in their socialist constructs and corruption but it is mostly due to International sanctions and oil manipulation. The things that you just posted were all cheered on by the leftists in this country at the time. But quickly fell apart as national everything didn’t grow and caused the country to collapse. It’s revisionist history to ignore how the country fell apart after it was all nationalize into blame it on the sanctions that are going on today. I Country fell apart Way before the sanctions were placed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: The things that you just posted were all cheered on by the leftists in this country at the time. But quickly fell apart as national everything didn’t grow and caused the country to collapse. It’s revisionist history to ignore how the country fell apart after it was all nationalize into blame it on the sanctions that are going on today. I Country fell apart Way before the sanctions were placed I am not going to explain this again. I have been thru this with mulitiple members many times over the years. The info is out there if you want to see it. But tell me something. How do you figure that using billions more dollars every year from oil revenues to help the people who live there was a bad choice? And paying off their debt was a bad choice? And even if it was, isnt that their decision? Why have we attempted numerous coups, imposed sanctions, incited violence and political unrest there for the last 20 years? What benefit is that to us or them? They arent our enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jtssrx Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Anler said: I am not going to explain this again. I have been thru this with mulitiple members many times over the years. The info is out there if you want to see it. But tell me something. How do you figure that using billions more dollars every year from oil revenues to help the people who live there was a bad choice? And paying off their debt was a bad choice? And even if it was, isnt that their decision? Why have we attempted numerous coups, imposed sanctions, incited violence and political unrest there for the last 20 years? What benefit is that to us or them? They arent our enemy. I don't think it was a bad choice the bad choice was nationalizing everything. Let me give you an example. my Credit union serves many many people who live on welfare. most have been getting checks for over a decade. They have zero incentive to work. This is the flaw in socialism. It's one thing to praise him for paying off debt but to no criticize him for his failures is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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