ArcticCrusher Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Any doctor can prescribe almost any medication for off label use. If a doctor thinks the “trump drug” is effective for the covid he or she can prescribe it. The vast majority of doctors don’t, because they look at the data. Either because of the proven risks or it’s ineffectiveness against Covid. There’s no one stopping doctors from prescribing it. This drug is no different than tons of other medications used for off label usage. Some doctors do it and others don’t. The outrage from trump supporters and trump himself over doctors not following the president’s medical direction is hysterical. I’ve never seen anything quite like it. Look at the data. It works. At least in some applications. Some can't take penecillin due to reactions but to say it doesn't work is wrong. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302179 Edited July 30, 2020 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Look at the data. It works. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302179 The Henry Ford clinic just recently released their results that it works as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Look at the data. It works. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302179 Nope. https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/16/new-covid-19-study-despite-flaws-adds-to-case-against-hydroxychloroquine/ https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019014 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2012410 https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 30, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 30, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/media/hydroxychloroquine-could-save-lives-ingraham-yale-professor Hydroxychloroquine could save up to 100,000 lives if used for COVID-19: Yale epidemiology professor Dr. Harvey Risch, an epidemiology professor at Yale School of Public Health, said on Tuesday that he thinks hydroxychloroquine could save 75,000 to 100,000 lives if the drug is widely used to treat coronavirus. “There are many doctors that I’ve gotten hostile remarks about saying that all the evidence is bad for it and, in fact, that is not true at all,” Risch told “Ingraham Angle," adding that he believes the drug can be used as a "prophylactic" for front-line workers, as other countries like India have done. Risch lamented that a "propaganda war" is being waged against the use of the drug for political purposes, not based on "medical facts." DEMS CALL CHINA TRAVEL BAN XENOPHOBIC, NOW CHANGE THEIR TUNE Researchers at the Henry Ford Health System in Southeast Michigan have found that early administration of hydroxychloroquine makes hospitalized patients substantially less likely to die. The study, published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, determined that hydroxychloroquine provided a "66 percent hazard ratio reduction," and hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin a 71 percent reduction, compared with neither treatment. In-hospital mortality was 18.1 percent overall; 13.5 percent with just hydroxychloroquine, 22.4 percent with azithromycin alone, and 26.4 percent with neither drug. "Prospective trials are needed" for further review, the researchers note, even as they concluded: "In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franks pond Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I’ve found that any discussion on this topic from the alt left is riddled with logical fallacies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ACE said: I’ve found that any discussion on this topic from the alt left is riddled with logical fallacies They don't provide data. Imagine that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ACE said: I’ve found that any discussion on this topic from the alt left is riddled with logical fallacies Yeah ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 how fucking dumb are Trumpers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Sludgy has a spirit husband invading his cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: how fucking dumb are Trumpers It’s outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 30, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: It’s outstanding. That fact that you and others think they know more on this than the likes of Dr.'s from Yale absolutely is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: That fact that you and others think they know more on this than the likes of Dr.'s from Yale absolutely is amazing. Witch doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Yeah ok. If you want to continually engage in logical fallacies you can just keep standing in the corner like a good boi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, ACE said: If you want to continually engage in logical fallacies you can just keep standing in the corner like a good boi You’re far too fucking dumb to identify any logical fallacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: You’re far too fucking dumb to identify any logical fallacy No but you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, ACE said: No but you are Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 30, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Witch doctor She's still more of Dr. than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: She's still more of Dr. than you. Thpins xenophobia stems from his low IQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: She's still more of Dr. than you. Trump follows a witch doctor and his minion agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 30, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Trump follows a witch doctor and his minion agree. Better than a faux psychiatrist. Edited July 30, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Highmark said: Better than a faux psychiatrist. Just admit it. Trump makes you guys look like dummies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Someone just admitted that trump is very intelligent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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