Carlos Danger Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Deportation has been happening for years. Obama's admin has deported more than any other pres. Something over the 2mil mark. All they need to do is ramp it up a bit. And if local city and states wanna "cut their own path"...well, good for them....state/federal funding gets cut. See how the non-illegals like their local-yokals that are in power then. Good luck. Personally, I just want the surge of illegals being given safe harbor here stopped or slowed dramatically. They wanna become citizens? Fine...we have a path for that..and always have. Asterisk on bold. Rules for what constitutes deportation were changed under Obama to include those simply turned away at the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: With the amount of murders in Chicago over the last few years why didn't they send in the National Guard? compare the current chicago murder rate to the early 90's or "70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, spin_dry said: cost/benefit comes into play. how much are these states producing because of mexicans? federal money might look paultry in comparison to losing what the workers provide to the economy. And their free health care, and education, and food stamps and on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, CarlSpackler said: And their free health care, and education, and food stamps and on and on post up some stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: Asterisk on bold. Rules for what constitutes deportation were changed under Obama to include those simply turned away at the border. Figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, spin_dry said: compare the current chicago murder rate to the early 90's or "70's. It is pretty clear that the current problem is due to a single drug lord moving his operations into the city. I never understood why Obama didn't take the fight to the guy seems like it would have been a political homerun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: compare the current chicago murder rate to the early 90's or "70's. Or 200 years ago even! But why has it ramped up so sharply over the last two though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: cost/benefit comes into play. how much are these states producing because of mexicans? federal money might look paultry in comparison to losing what the workers provide to the economy. I, and most others, could give a rat's ass about that. It's just like abortion man... pay the short dollar up front, not the long dollar out back. Or does that only work for fetuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: post up some stats. I'll get right on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: post up some stats. I could....but I'd rather have you post up the "benefits" that your side has been spinning first then tear it all apart. Let's do that! Ewww.....so much fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Snake said: I, and most others, could give a rat's ass about that. It's just like abortion man... pay the short dollar up front, not the long dollar out back. Or does that only work for fetuses? fetuses don't concern me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: fetuses don't concern me. Obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I could....but I'd rather have you post up the "benefits" that your side has been spinning first then tear it all apart. Let's do that! Ewww.....so much fun! i simply stated that the states would look at their options. you're the one that seems so sure of what they'll decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: i simply stated that the states would look at their options. you're the one that seems so sure of what they'll decide. Wisconsin needs more Somalis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: i simply stated that the states would look at their options. you're the one that seems so sure of what they'll decide. No, that's not what happened at all. You stated "this simply won't happen". I stated what could happen after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, spin_dry said: fetuses don't concern me. Illegal criminals can Leave or be sent. I love dem bravado... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, Zambroski said: No, that's not what happened at all. You stated "this simply won't happen". I stated what could happen after that. making up quotes again. how nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 51 minutes ago, CarlSpackler said: Stop handing them federal money for their police forces....that is how they did the 55mph speed limit and the .08 DWI That's exactly what needs to happen. Those cities would change their tune pretty fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Snake said: Illegal criminals can Leave or be sent. I love dem bravado... illegal criminals. i enjoy how you're so flexible with your guy's changing stances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, spin_dry said: illegal criminals. i enjoy how you're so flexible with your guy's changing stances. Illegal criminals = ANYONE who is here illegally. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, Snake said: Illegal criminals = ANYONE who is here illegally. Period. your man ain't going to do that. he's already said so. tell me, are you starting to talk with that little scrunched up mouth like trump has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, spin_dry said: your man ain't going to do that. he's already said so. tell me, are you starting to talk with that little scrunched up mouth like trump has? Are you starting to talk out of your gaping mangina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 hours ago, Snake said: fuck California. cant argue with yrs of cannabis cup winners going back decades . but everything else about that state yeah fuck em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: unless trump creates a federal deportation force, this simply won't happen. several city police departments have already indicated that they won't enforce the law. the majority of state governors in states with large metropolitan areas are democrates. so count out the state police as well. should be fun to see how he's gonna pull this off. 43 minutes ago, Zambroski said: No, that's not what happened at all. You stated "this simply won't happen". I stated what could happen after that. 27 minutes ago, spin_dry said: making up quotes again. how nice. Memories....they are short for libs. Hey....I just wanna help! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 58 minutes ago, spin_dry said: fetuses don't concern me. so to u a woman gets punched a few times in the guy at 6 mo kills the fetus it is just simple assault. in your eyes it has to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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