Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 No I'm not implying any specific conspirocy theory but... If you were to design an almost perfect virus to spread around the world whether it be by China or whomever.... Highly contagious Many infected show little symptoms increasing its spread Non symptomatic for days increasing its spread. Mostly kills the elderly and those with expensive pre-existing conditions. Will cause massive dependency on govt. Financially strong companies (large and small) have the best chance to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted April 3, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 I won't say it natural or a was designed to be a weapon but I will say if it was designed I don't think it's release was intentional. I'll need to see proof of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 And the biggest hedge fund buys $1.5 billion in put options that the economy will drop by March of 2020... https://www.wsj.com/articles/bridgewater-bets-big-on-market-drop-11574418601 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Anler said: And the biggest hedge fund buys $1.5 billion in put options that the economy will drop by March of 2020... https://www.wsj.com/articles/bridgewater-bets-big-on-market-drop-11574418601 Honestly its no surprise people were shorting the market based off some fundamentals alone. Does make you go hmmm.....though. Edited April 3, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Honestly its no surprise people were shorting the market based off some fundamentals alone. Does make you go hmmm.....though. Some people view shorting as honest work. Imagine that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: Some people view shorting as honest work. Imagine that? The loser agreed to it. Takes 2 to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Some people view shorting as honest work. Imagine that? Is it not honest work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Is it not honest work? Is it destructive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 It’s a run of the mill virus, irresponsible media and reactionary government Occam’s razor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Is it destructive? Shorting the market? I don’t see it as destructive at all. You're just betting the market is oversold and betting it will go down. There is a good chance you will lose your money trying to short the market. Admittedly Ive never shorted the market and I really know very little about it. Maybe Im wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Highmark said: No I'm not implying any specific conspirocy theory but... If you were to design an almost perfect virus to spread around the world whether it be by China or whomever.... Highly contagious Many infected show little symptoms increasing its spread Non symptomatic for days increasing its spread. Mostly kills the elderly and those with expensive pre-existing conditions. Will cause massive dependency on govt. Financially strong companies (large and small) have the best chance to survive. That’s not taking into account that the virus could mutate like the H1N1 avian variant. Flu viruses are too unstable to risk such a gamble. Once a virus is released into the wild there’s no predicting how it’s going to behave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Shorting the market? I don’t see it as destructive at all. You're just betting the market is oversold and betting it will go down. There is a good chance you will lose your money trying to short the market. Admittedly Ive never shorted the market and I really know very little about it. Maybe Im wrong. Overbought .....but that’s not really it. Anyone with a brain could see the market was priced with zero fundamental basis. Shrinking GDP , shrinking earnings and massive QE causing significant over valuation. Shorting the market is no different than any other stock sale. You are selling a commodity when you feel it is at peak price and anticipating purchasing it back at a lower price. What I will say is I feel there should be limits on short sales during times of massive volatility. But now that the Fed is buying fucking stocks all bets are off The market is now 100% fully rigged and in the control of global bankers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That’s not taking into account that the virus could mutate like the H1N1 avian variant. Flu viruses are too unstable to risk such a gamble. Once a virus is released into the wild there’s no predicting how it’s going to behave. Yes but didn't you claim virus' always mutate weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Highmark said: Honestly its no surprise people were shorting the market based off some fundamentals alone. Does make you go hmmm.....though. The largest hedge fund would have inside information of a pandemic brewing in China when it started. Supply chain disruption would have been known early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anler said: The largest hedge fund would have inside information of a pandemic brewing in China when it started. Supply chain disruption would have been known early on. Possibly. Then its outbreak was much earlier than we've been told. Article is from late Nov. By Juliet Chung and Gunjan Banerji Updated Nov. 22, 2019 2:07 pm ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Possibly. Then its outbreak was much earlier than we've been told. Article is from late Nov. By Juliet Chung and Gunjan Banerji Updated Nov. 22, 2019 2:07 pm ET Its pretty clear the Chinese did not want that news getting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 3, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, Anler said: Its pretty clear the Chinese did not want that news getting out. No argument here on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yes but didn't you claim virus' always mutate weaker. No, the claim was “usually”. It’s important to be precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Is it destructive? You push and bet for the negative all the time. Why can’t people make money playing that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: No I'm not implying any specific conspirocy theory but... If you were to design an almost perfect virus to spread around the world whether it be by China or whomever.... Highly contagious Many infected show little symptoms increasing its spread Non symptomatic for days increasing its spread. Mostly kills the elderly and those with expensive pre-existing conditions. Will cause massive dependency on govt. Financially strong companies (large and small) have the best chance to survive. Agreed. The real brilliance is the person that knew society would cave on the prospect of the fear alone. So far, the virus hasn’t done the damage we are doing to ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Highmark said: No I'm not implying any specific conspirocy theory but... If you were to design an almost perfect virus to spread around the world whether it be by China or whomever.... Highly contagious Many infected show little symptoms increasing its spread Non symptomatic for days increasing its spread. Mostly kills the elderly and those with expensive pre-existing conditions. Will cause massive dependency on govt. Financially strong companies (large and small) have the best chance to survive. 1. Trump fucks the Chinese for 550 billion in a trade deal. 2. While Trump is holding a presser on the trade deal, he is shitting on China, with the two Chinese reps standing next to him. I watched it, the fukkin bastid was shitting on them right in front of them!! 3. A month or so later, Corona Virus hits the USA. 4. In the whole world, the USA is suffering the most casualties, and loss. 5. The Chinese economy was tanking since the trade deal. You guys think this was coincidence???? Just my .02c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I'm a fan of Eddie Murphy's stand-up in the 80's. He had one skit where he's a waiter in a Chinese restaurant, and some white guys come in and make fun of him. He says " Oh, I give you some SPECIAL WANTON SOUP ". I think Xi Xinping just gave Orange Julius some wanton soup!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: 1. Trump fucks the Chinese for 550 billion in a trade deal. 2. While Trump is holding a presser on the trade deal, he is shitting on China, with the two Chinese reps standing next to him. I watched it, the fukkin bastid was shitting on them right in front of them!! 3. A month or so later, Corona Virus hits the USA. 4. In the whole world, the USA is suffering the most casualties, and loss. 5. The Chinese economy was tanking since the trade deal. You guys think this was coincidence???? Just my .02c. What’s happening to us cannot be solely blamed on China. Sure, the virus can but, what we are about to enter (recession/depression) is due solely on us and fear based. As it turns out, if this was a “designer” virus, it was a fail by itself because it doesn’t attack and kill the strong, it kills the old and weak. What we showed the world is how feeble our nation really is. Our soft and decadent, consumer based underbelly popped right up........and all are taking notes. I think the reason the US is showing the highest levels of spread is the tests are probably incorrectly identifying flu and common cold cases as Corona. Here’s a question, who is developing these tests? Hmmmm.....that’s as far as I’m going down the rabbit hole though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Zambroski said: What’s happening to us cannot be solely blamed on China. Sure, the virus can but, what we are about to enter (recession/depression) is due solely on us and fear based. As it turns out, if this was a “designer” virus, it was a fail by itself because it doesn’t attack and kill the strong, it kills the old and weak. What we showed the world is how feeble our nation really is. Our soft and decadent, consumer based underbelly popped right up........and all are taking notes. I think the reason the US is showing the highest levels of spread is the tests are probably incorrectly identifying flu and common cold cases as Corona. Here’s a question, who is developing these tests? Hmmmm.....that’s as far as I’m going down the rabbit hole though.... it’s more like a gopher dumb fuck hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: it’s more like a gopher dumb fuck hope. You represent the weak and the inept. The problem with modern liberals is, you’ve all somehow figured you represent the strong and competent. This is why you cower you the WHO and the UN as gods of the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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