frenchy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, motonoggin said: I believe that it's incomplete and stops at $1m/yr. Pretty sure the plan doesn't cap taxes at $1m/yr Either way claiming the average family would only pay roughly $2500 per year for full medical coverage is a flat out bold faced lie by Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: Either way claiming the average family would only pay roughly $2500 per year for full medical coverage is a flat out bold faced lie by Sanders. Maybe, but you can't prove it with incomplete data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I believe the purpose of that chart was to illustrate what it would cost people who are actually interested in what it would cost them. It's not intended to satisfy actuaries, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Yes , he got it from selling his in-laws home after they passed away you fucking dumbass retard sells a 100k home and buys one worth 600k? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, racer254 said: sells a 100k home and buys one worth 600k? LOL Kill yourself. For real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: yes a true redistribution socialist. and let's not forget how he got his new lake home fucking week sellout 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: yes awfule with money but knowes how to redistribute yours Ouch. Nailed bernie perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Kill yourself. For real Are you paying 20k per year for Individual HC? Or is that the total cost of a family plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Are you paying 20k per year for Individual HC? Or is that the total cost of a family plan? Total cost of my family plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Total cost of my family plan So your part, plus your companies match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: So your part, plus your companies match? has to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, f7ben said: Total cost of my family plan Mine costs about the same. Employer pays for me, and I pay for my family. It's about $1500/month all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, motonoggin said: Mine costs about the same. Employer pays for me, and I pay for my family. It's about $1500/month all in. Hold it. You guys need to stop with all the bullshit. Just state what comes out of your check and how many people it covers. Your employer match does not count unless you want to say how much total HC is for the whole company and the amount of people it covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Hold it. You guys need to stop with all the bullshit. Just state what comes out of your check and how many people it covers. Your employer match does not count unless you want to say how much total HC is for the whole company and the amount of people it covers. My coverage costs my employer about $500/month. I pay over $1k/mo for my family. Edited February 21, 2020 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 21, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 Yeah you guys stop with information that is confusing to racer!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yeah you guys stop with information that is confusing to racer!!!!!! I can see through the bullshit and notice they don't answer truthfully after that. They want to make it sound way different then what the truth is, just like these politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, racer254 said: I can see through the bullshit and notice they don't answer truthfully after that. They want to make it sound way different then what the truth is, just like these politicians. Who cares who actually pays? The point is we're getting ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 21, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, racer254 said: I can see through the bullshit and notice they don't answer truthfully after that. They want to make it sound way different then what the truth is, just like these politicians. So you are accusing them of lying... you constantly ask questions and when you don’t like the answers you say the same thing. Edited February 21, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I believe the purpose of that chart was to illustrate what it would cost people who are actually interested in what it would cost them. It's not intended to satisfy actuaries, for example. if you are going to try and have a serious discussion about UHC you need to provide realistic figures for what it will cost people. Those figures are nothing but fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: So you are accusing them of lying... you constantly ask questions and when you don’t like the answers you say the same thing. No they are telling the facts in a way that makes it look completely different then the truth. That's what the media has taught them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Says the Trump supporter I’m not a trump supporter in the sense that I think everything he says and does is awesome. I hate his debt policies and I hate his Israeli politics. I think he wants america to do well. Sanders may be well intentioned but he plays class warfare. I don’t like identity politics. Everyone on this site seems to have figured out a way to make a good living for their families. The idea that others can’t and that the government should intervene is laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Who cares who actually pays? The point is we're getting ripped off. LOL. How can you say you are getting ripped off when you have no idea what the payment is and what it covers. FFS, keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yeah you guys stop with information that is confusing to racer!!!!!! He is one of those faggots that thinks its better to force his employer to pay for it. He likes insurance that other people pay for too. As long as its not him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: LOL. How can you say you are getting ripped off when you have no idea what the payment is and what it covers. FFS, keep up the good work. Why do you assume I don't know those things? the fact remains that we pay almost double of what other countries pay for worse outcomes and worse coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Anler said: He is one of those faggots that thinks its better to force his employer to pay for it. He likes insurance that other people pay for too. As long as its not him Sounds like most dem supporters don't want to pay for anything. Free education, Free HC, free free free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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