Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 16, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 Honestly its a valid question. They are trying damage who they potentially are running against. This is the same thing they accuse Trump of. For sure you have to look at their statements regarding impeachment prior to the whole Ukraine BS. I mean lawyers throw out potential jurors with conflicts of interest all the time. The dems would be calling for Roberts recusal if Trump appointed him and honestly I think I would have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Honestly its a valid question. They are trying damage who they potentially are running against. This is the same thing they accuse Trump of. For sure you have to look at their statements regarding impeachment prior to the whole Ukraine BS. I mean lawyers throw out potential jurors with conflicts of interest all the time. The dems would be calling for Roberts recusal if Trump appointed him and honestly I think I would have to agree. Are there alternate jurors that could fill their vacancy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 16, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Are there alternate jurors that could fill their vacancy? No. SC Justices do it from time to time and they are not replaced for the case. https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/conflictsofinterest The Prohibition on Profiting from One’s Official Position A Member, officer, or employee may not use his or her official position for personal gain. See Senate Rule 37.1. Edited January 16, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 16, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 Yes , as it presents a clear conflict of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 No, because that would be a dereliction of duty and violate their oath of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 16, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: No, because that would be a dereliction of duty and violate their oath of office. ONe could say the same about campaigning when in office. Why don't we take a quick peak at missed votes. From Jan 2007 to Jan 2020, Sanders missed 511 of 4,037 roll call votes, which is 12.7%. This is much worse than the median of 1.4% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time. Sen. Warren has missed 54.4% of votes in the 116th Congress (2019-20). This makes her the 4th most absent member of the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: ONe could say the same about campaigning when in office. Why don't we take a quick peak at missed votes. From Jan 2007 to Jan 2020, Sanders missed 511 of 4,037 roll call votes, which is 12.7%. This is much worse than the median of 1.4% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time. Sen. Warren has missed 54.4% of votes in the 116th Congress (2019-20). This makes her the 4th most absent member of the Senate. Neither really GAF about their constituents they get off on the power and the fawning- not much different than the guy they hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: No, because that would be a dereliction of duty and violate their oath of office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: ONe could say the same about campaigning when in office. Why don't we take a quick peak at missed votes. From Jan 2007 to Jan 2020, Sanders missed 511 of 4,037 roll call votes, which is 12.7%. This is much worse than the median of 1.4% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time. Sen. Warren has missed 54.4% of votes in the 116th Congress (2019-20). This makes her the 4th most absent member of the Senate. You’ve made an excellent case that those two especially need to be present lest their stats get any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Law 101. Of course they should recuse themselves. Not that the Democrats practice normal principals of juris prudence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Any with any moral integrity should absolutely recuse themselves. So, then....no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 16, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, XC.Morrison said: You’ve made an excellent case that those two especially need to be present lest their stats get any worse. So they should be there when a lot of other things are not important to them? That's quite funny seeing Ms. Warren, during her latest senate race, told the residents of Massachusetts she had no interest n running for president. That she would be there to represent them.Obviously that wasn't the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: So they should be there when a lot of other things are not important to them? That's quite funny seeing Ms. Warren, during her latest senate race, told the residents of Massachusetts she had no interest n running for president. That she would be there to represent them.Obviously that wasn't the case. It’s certainly not ideal and I’m not gonna make excuses for it. I’m creative enough that I could make them and I could play the whatabout game but I won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: It’s certainly not ideal and I’m not gonna make excuses for it. I’m creative enough that I could make them and I could play the whatabout game but I won’t. You're a regular legend in your own mind, aren't you! Dunning-Kruger Effect: Why People Think They’re Smart Even When They’re Not The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 16, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, XC.Morrison said: No, because that would be a dereliction of duty and violate their oath of office. Senators can abstain from voting on any legislation they choose too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, irv said: You're a regular legend in your own mind, aren't you! Dunning-Kruger Effect: Why People Think They’re Smart Even When They’re Not The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities From one Dunning fan to another: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 16, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted January 16, 2020 They should recuse themself for the race for the democratic nomination if they want to follow their oath of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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