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A high-powered group of external advisers is calling for a dramatic increase in Canada's immigration levels, but Immigration Minister John McCallum says that might be too ambitious.

McCallum said Wednesday he's read the report by the Advisory Council on Economic Growth that calls for a 50-per-cent increase in targets to 450,000 people a year.

The measure would target skilled, entrepreneurial newcomers in an attempt to stimulate economic growth.

The 14-member panel, chaired by Dominic Barton of the firm McKinsey and Co., is to deliver a set of recommendations to Finance Minister Bill Morneau on Thursday.

McCallum said meeting the target suggested by Barton's group would be costly and might not find broad national support.

"The figure he gives is a huge figure," McCallum said. "But this is not a universal view across the country."

Discussions are continuing and the government will announce immigration targets for 2017 next month, McCallum added.

McCallum's cabinet colleague, Economic Development Minister Navdeep Bains, told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that he's "worked very closely" with Barton's panel, and favours increased immigration levels. But he stopped short of endorsing the target in Barton's report.

"Clearly he's demonstrating an opportunity for Canada," Bains said. "We value our diversity, we value our multicultural society and we recognize immigration is an opportunity to create jobs."

The need for skilled labour

Bains said the government would need to sell the idea of higher immigration levels to the public.

"We, as a government, need to focus on communicating the benefits of growing the economy and part of that growth is investing in people and part of that equation is immigration."

Bains said bringing in more skilled workers is part of the government's broader agenda that includes investing in research and development, creating jobs and helping companies grow.

A survey released by Canadian Manufactures and Exporters said the most pressing challenge facing its member companies is "attracting or retaining skilled labour."

The response came from a survey and roundtable discussions with 1,300 member companies.

Matthew Wilson, the organization's senior vice president, said manufacturers have traditionally looked beyond Canada's border to find skilled workers.

"If we can expand that, that's good," he said in an interview.

Slower growth ahead

But the government needs to do more to make sure the immigrants they allow into Canada actually have skills that are needed, Wilson added.

"Just bringing in more immigrants isn't going to solve the skills-gap problem if they don't have the skills Canadian companies need."

The continuing need to address the country's sluggish economy was underscored Wednesday as the Bank of Canada downgraded its growth prediction.

The bank's latest outlook projected a real GDP expansion of 1.1 per cent this year, down from its earlier 1.3 per cent forecast.

Governor Stephen Poloz listed immigration as "one of the ingredients" for helping to reverse declining growth.

I can't believe McCallum had those thoughts. He must be drying out. Has anyone ever explained how "diversity" has helped Canada? I don't ever remember it being mentioned during Oshawa's Fiesta Week during its heydey.

Some talk on the CBC this morning & the reporter said most immigrants settle in the big cities, which doesn't help declining populations in rural & small town Canada. The reason those populations are declining is that there are no jobs there. Why would it make sense to plunk immigrants down in areas of unemployment? In Apsley, Asians already own the motel/restaurant and the "general store". I can't think of any other businesses they'd be interested in.  

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8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

of course it won't stop shootings but what are you offering as a alternative? 

I am not a fan of ARM THE PUBLIC, more guns

I am a fan of Police not having their first thought of "he/she is armed" and being shot.

I don't won't to be pulled over with guns out like happens in the USA

 

What is your suggestions?  DO NOTHING is a common answer

How naive of you. If it doesn't stop the shootings what makes you think there would be any change in what a policeman thinks?

The Federal Government needs to put their efforts and funding into things that will make things better rather than giving the impression that they are:

- more enforcement at the border to stop illegal guns from entering Canada

- harsher penalties for crimes involving guns. No bail for anyone committing a crime with a gun (no getting out before the police finish the paper work - they stay in jail until their trial is over and only released if they are innocent). Life in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who kills with a gun. 25 years in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who uses a gun while committing a crime.

 

I really don't care if they eventually make hand gun ownership more difficult, but they need to solve the illegal gun problem first and stiffen the penalties for crimes with hand guns.

Looking to redo my mortgage yesterday and was told people are already handing in keys to their home 

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How does this happen.

Trudeaus world.

 

 

On 10/28/2022 at 9:29 AM, MuskokaGator said:

How naive of you. If it doesn't stop the shootings what makes you think there would be any change in what a policeman thinks?

The Federal Government needs to put their efforts and funding into things that will make things better rather than giving the impression that they are:

- more enforcement at the border to stop illegal guns from entering Canada

- harsher penalties for crimes involving guns. No bail for anyone committing a crime with a gun (no getting out before the police finish the paper work - they stay in jail until their trial is over and only released if they are innocent). Life in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who kills with a gun. 25 years in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who uses a gun while committing a crime.

 

I really don't care if they eventually make hand gun ownership more difficult, but they need to solve the illegal gun problem first and stiffen the penalties for crimes with hand guns.

Not sure that these people care about jail time

5 years for just carrying it seems pretty tough

 

  • maximum 5 years in prison for carrying a concealed weapon when tried as an indictable offence

 

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/penalties-and-sentencing-for-weapons-offences-kruse-law.cfm

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

How does this happen.

Trudeaus world.

 

 

The Globe and Mail lost its credibility a long time ago.  Right Wing Rag for the most part

9 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Not sure that these people care about jail time

5 years for just carrying it seems pretty tough

 

  • maximum 5 years in prison for carrying a concealed weapon when tried as an indictable offence

 

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/penalties-and-sentencing-for-weapons-offences-kruse-law.cfm

 

 

 

 

5 years applies to no one in this day and age.   Gun carrying regulars with history are regularly given bail.

And your hero Trudeau wants to lessen sentences.  
 

 

10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Not sure that these people care about jail time

5 years for just carrying it seems pretty tough

 

  • maximum 5 years in prison for carrying a concealed weapon when tried as an indictable offence

 

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/penalties-and-sentencing-for-weapons-offences-kruse-law.cfm

 

 

 

 

Over 1,100 people are out on bail for gun crimes awaiting trial in Toronto and Durhamregion.  Forget Hilton, peel, Niagara, Hamilton, Newmarket, Barrie.

How many in southern Ontario are on bail for gun crimes?

Crazy.

10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Not sure that these people care about jail time

5 years for just carrying it seems pretty tough

 

  • maximum 5 years in prison for carrying a concealed weapon when tried as an indictable offence

 

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/penalties-and-sentencing-for-weapons-offences-kruse-law.cfm

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter what they think about it. It gets them off the streets for long periods of time. It's hard to repeat offend when you are in jail.

Again, you are naive. 5 years is never that long. They get credited with double time for time served prior to conviction and all terms are maximum with usually only a third of the time served. We would be lucky if the actual time served was 1 to 1.5 years.

1 hour ago, Sksman said:

5 years applies to no one in this day and age.   Gun carrying regulars with history are regularly given bail.

And your hero Trudeau wants to lessen sentences.  
 

 

it is the current law :dunno:  

You said if they have tough sentences the problem is solved.   

 

And the false accusation about Trudeau making less sentencing is so far from the truth but ONEWAYs don't ever look stuff up they just read the current meme sent out and that is it.

 

I will give you the opportunity to produce the LAW that makes less sentencing for crimes -  post anyone you  want

1 hour ago, Sksman said:

Over 1,100 people are out on bail for gun crimes awaiting trial in Toronto and Durhamregion.  Forget Hilton, peel, Niagara, Hamilton, Newmarket, Barrie.

How many in southern Ontario are on bail for gun crimes?

Crazy.

:lol:  but they held Tamara for doing nothing :lol:   

So you are against bail before trials now?  great country you want to live in

Guilty then prove your innocence 

 

What you really want is to remove all bail conditions for people arrested :dunno:  

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46 minutes ago, MuskokaGator said:

It doesn't matter what they think about it. It gets them off the streets for long periods of time. It's hard to repeat offend when you are in jail.

Again, you are naive. 5 years is never that long. They get credited with double time for time served prior to conviction and all terms are maximum with usually only a third of the time served. We would be lucky if the actual time served was 1 to 1.5 years.

I get what you are saying but I don't understand how you think Trudeau is the cause of it.  Pretty stupid to think this

1 hour ago, Sksman said:

Over 1,100 people are out on bail for gun crimes awaiting trial in Toronto and Durhamregion.  Forget Hilton, peel, Niagara, Hamilton, Newmarket, Barrie.

How many in southern Ontario are on bail for gun crimes?

Crazy.

Since you have this info at hand, how many are not released and are kept in jail after being denied bail?  

I would lkie to see these numbers

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As run away DOUG FORD says "this is a federal call to use the federal emergency act"  there is no need for me to speak.

 

But lets hear from the anti Canadians like Tamara and Chris :lol:  fuck this is awesome.

 

This is making THE RIGHT LOOK REAL STUPID 

 

 

I assume ALL have noticed that PP never brings up Convoy Trial in Parliament :lol:  I wonder why :lol: 

Glad when the next election rolls around 

1 hour ago, toslow said:

Glad when the next election rolls around 

1 week of listening to convoy organizers :dunno:  what do they have to do with calling in THE ACT?

your arguements for FORD are becoming very week

 

Poor Tamara has THE RIGHT to bring in PAID PROTESTERS and block street until demands are met.

 

A sitting PM must meet with all people that demand things according to CPC followers

 

I wonder how many anti Canadians they will bring to the mic 

Trudeau speaks up for workers as FORD using notwithstanding clause to take their right to strike away.

 

Ford use of this clause needs to stop

Chris ANTI CANADIAN Barber testifies today.  

He has already stated that Trudeau lied and there was 30% to %40 of drivers had to quit driving because of Trudeau :lol: 

Although he isn't really lying since he had 3 drivers and 1 left = 33% Holy fuck balls 

 

We just wanted to be heard :lol:  So we flew FUCK TRUDEAU flags 

 

Brigitte is an very angry person 

9 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Trudeau speaks up for workers as FORD using notwithstanding clause to take their right to strike away.

 

Ford use of this clause needs to stop

Who is going to pay for the kids to stay home when parents need to work to pay for the largest inflation ever 

1 hour ago, toslow said:

Who is going to pay for the kids to stay home when parents need to work to pay for the largest inflation ever 

Why not make a deal :dunno:  instead of just FORDing the deal like he has done a half dozen times 

Giving 200 dollars to parents for math is a lot of  money that would have paid for their raise over the entire contract

 

we don't have to pay for car stickers

 

the cost of just those two things is 600 million a year

 

saying some one will make $3.00 more in 4 years isn't a lot of money for people that haven't seen a total of 3% in  last 10 years 

 

YOu speak of inflation but then say they don't need more money :dunno:  isn't that talking out both sides of your mouth 

 

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He tried to make a deal, the union want something stupid like 30per over 3 yrs,

like i said the union is not negotiating in good faith 

really who gets a 10 dollar raise in wages in 3yrs.

i sure as hell don’t and i would think you don’t 

Edited by toslow

wow people like this are something to behold

 

 

12 hours ago, toslow said:

He tried to make a deal, the union want something stupid like 30per over 3 yrs,

like i said the union is not negotiating in good faith 

really who gets a 10 dollar raise in wages in 3yrs.

i sure as hell don’t and i would think you don’t 

:lol:  okay you seem to have no knowledge of this topic so lets move on :lol: 

 

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