Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I mean this is just a vicious unwarranted attack on the peaceful saudi people and their little oil business. Fucking scum! < Older Will Trump Take Neocon Bait and Attack Iran Over Saudi Strike? written by ron paul monday september 16, 2019 The recent attacks on Saudi oil facilities by Yemeni Houthi forces demonstrate once again that an aggressive foreign policy often brings unintended consequences and can result in blowback. In 2015 Saudi Arabia attacked its neighbor, Yemen, because a coup in that country ousted the Saudi-backed dictator. Four years later Yemen is in ruins, with nearly 100,000 Yemenis killed and millions more facing death by starvation. It has been rightly called the worst humanitarian catastrophe on the planet. But rich and powerful Saudi Arabia did not defeat Yemen. In fact, the Saudis last month asked the Trump Administration to help facilitate talks with the Houthis in hopes that the war, which has cost Saudi Arabia tens of billions of dollars, could finally end without Saudi crown prince Mohammad bin Salman losing too much face. Washington admitted earlier this month that those talks had begun. The surprise Houthi attack on Saturday disrupted half of Saudi Arabia’s oil and gas production and shocked Washington. Predictably, however, the neocons are using the attack to call for war with Iran! Sen. Lindsay Graham, one of the few people in Washington who makes John Bolton look like a dove, Tweeted yesterday that, “It is now time for the US to put on the table an attack on Iranian oil refineries…” Graham is the perfect embodiment of the saying, “when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” No matter what the problem, for Graham the solution is war. Likewise, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo – who is supposed to represent US diplomacy – jumped to blame Iran for the attack on Saudi Arabia, Tweeting that, “Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply.” Of course, he provided no evidence even as the Houthis themselves took responsibility for the bombing. What is remarkable is that all of Washington’s warmongers are ready for war over what is actually a retaliatory strike by a country that is the victim of Saudi aggression, not the aggressor itself. Yemen did not attack Saudi Arabia in 2015. It was the other way around. If you start a war and the other country fights back, you should not be entitled to complain about how unfair the whole thing is. The establishment reaction to the Yemeni oilfield strike reminds me of a hearing in the House Foreign Affairs Committee just before the US launched the 2003 Iraq war. As I was arguing against the authorization for that war, I pointed out that Iraq had never attacked the United States. One of my colleagues stopped me in mid-sentence, saying, “let me remind the gentleman that the Iraqis have been shooting at our planes for years.” True, but those planes were bombing Iraq! The neocons want a US war on Iran at any cost. They may feel temporarily at a disadvantage with the departure of their ally in the Trump Administration, John Bolton. However, the sad truth is that there are plenty more John Boltons in the Administration. And they have allies in the Lindsay Grahams in Congress. Yemen has demonstrated that it can fight back against Saudi aggression. The only sensible way forward is for a rapid end to this four-year travesty, and the Saudis would be wise to wake up to the mess they’ve created for themselves. Whatever the case, US participation in Saudi Arabia’s war on Yemen must end immediately and neocon lies about Iran’s role in the war must be refuted and resisted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Nothing to see here. Hey how many trillions should we allow to avenge the saudis and their oil revenue losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Trump’s hands are tied. If he starts another regional war he can kiss reelection goodbye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: Trump’s hands are tied. If he starts another regional war he can kiss reelection goodbye. Oh i highly doubt that, Americans love war and hate muslims in particular Iranians. What boggles me is why would we as a country be so hot and heavy to avenge the Saudis? Especially with what they have done to initiate the attack? A war with Iran would get very expensive very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Anler said: Oh i highly doubt that, Americans love war and hate muslims in particular Iranians. What boggles me is why would we as a country be so hot and heavy to avenge the Saudis? Especially with what they have done to initiate the attack? A war with Iran would get very expensive very quickly. There’s a few idiots in the Republican Party that still are behind dubya’s attack on Iraq. For the the majority of Americans, they are sick of these silly wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: There’s a few idiots in the Republican Party that still are behind dubya’s attack on Iraq. For the the majority of Americans, they are sick of these silly wars. I mean what have they produced? Millions dead, starved, maimed, regions destabilized, our own soldiers killed, dismembered and mentally damaged, trillions lost, refugee crisis throughout the region, and what is the goal? how do you bring normalcy to this? And in the end we have participated in all of this despite the fact that we have not been attacked by any of these countries. How do you defend that narrative of continuous war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 oh the poor Iran government always picked on for zero reason. fuck em I hope Israeli turns them to dust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: oh the poor Iran government always picked on for zero reason. fuck em I hope Israeli turns them to dust Trying reading sometime Cracky....you might be amazed...probably not but it’s worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 16, 2019 Zdumbfuck says you are all ignorant pacifists!!!!!!! Well not you cracky...dumbfucks of a feather flock together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Why can't the Saudi's fight their own battles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Zdumbfuck says you are all ignorant pacifists!!!!!!! Well not you cracky...dumbfucks of a feather flock together. No, pretty much just you. Just now, ford_428cj said: Why can't the Saudi's fight their own battles? When you can pay for somebody else to do it...and pay handsomely, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: Why can't the Saudi's fight their own battles? Exactly right. This entire beef with Iran is all about the beef between Saudi Arabia and iran (and that goes back a long ways), it should really have nothing to do with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Trump’s hands are tied. If he starts another regional war he can kiss reelection goodbye. Nailed it. Regardless of 2020 I hope he is smart enough not to get us into another war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) DP Edited September 16, 2019 by AKIQPilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, spin_dry said: There’s a few idiots in the Republican Party that still are behind dubya’s attack on Iraq. For the the majority of Americans, they are sick of these silly wars. I should have multi quoted. Nailed it again. The average American does not want war. This is a no win for Trump. A few people will be happy with war but the majority will hold it against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Nailed it. Regardless of 2020 I hope he is smart enough not to get us into another war. Well you know we can still help with under the table and secondary type stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: Why can't the Saudi's fight their own battles? Cause they can hire mercenaries, like the US government to do it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Zambroski said: No, pretty much just you. When you can pay for somebody else to do it...and pay handsomely, why not? No problem but most here agree with me on this issue you dumbfuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: No problem but most here agree with me on this issue you dumbfuck. What issue have you chosen as "yours". I haven't seen you voice any real opinion on anything. You are a follower. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Sure is good the U.N. exists. Or do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Zdumbfuck says you are all ignorant pacifists!!!!!!! Well not you cracky...dumbfucks of a feather flock together. see you are hard at work again . Iran has every thing coming that they get and more fuck them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: see you are hard at work again . Iran has every thing coming that they get and more fuck them Like how so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: What issue have you chosen as "yours". I haven't seen you voice any real opinion on anything. You are a follower. That's all. Not my fault you’re a babbling idiot that has reading issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: see you are hard at work again . Iran has every thing coming that they get and more fuck them There’s another lock step dummy. Zam, snake, and ez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: see you are hard at work again . Iran has every thing coming that they get and more fuck them I am working and you’re still a cracked out dolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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