Snake Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Nice try but the fact is that Trump acts without congressional approval and most here don't have an issue with people that serve so taking money from their housing and childcare is a shitty move....but you guys know all that. They're just pawns... why would you care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Nice try but the fact is that Trump acts without congressional approval and most here don't have an issue with people that serve so taking money from their housing and childcare is a shitty move....but you guys know all that. Most here don’t have an issue with most of what is happening, just who is doing it. Is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Anler said: Sure but 50% military. like I said 30% across the board to start. then start disscussing where the real cuts come from . Will never happen but a boy can dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, Cold War said: Most here don’t have an issue with most of what is happening, just who is doing it. Is the point. This is fairly true. Republicans were chewing their lips off when Obama was spending and the Dems had no issue. Now the Republicans are spending us into the abyss and their only concern is that a democrat might come in and do it again. And Dems are pointing the finger at the spending. How fucked up are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Kivalo said: Are any of the Republicans you support on board for that? only in bullshit talk . I think if it was proposed there are a few who would be on board before the author was killed in a random act of violence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: This is fairly true. Republicans were chewing their lips off when Obama was spending and the Dems had no issue. Now the Republicans are spending us into the abyss and their only concern is that a democrat might come in and do it again. And Dems are pointing the finger at the spending. How fucked up are we? We get what we get. Some wanted to hold 9/11 victims responsible for their demise, because they voted. Why not this for all Americans? We let it go on .... year after year. . We used to have issue voters , now we have party voters. The issues are just tools to beat up The controlling party. No one gives a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Cold War said: We get what we get. Some wanted to hold 9/11 victims responsible for their demise, because they voted. Why not this for all Americans? We let it go on .... year after year. . We used to have issue voters , now we have party voters. The issues are just tools to beat up The controlling party. No one gives a fuck. Fact is we are not defending the country in the middle East via, afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc we are in fact making the world less safe and spending trillions to do it. And everybody is ok with that for the most part but start talking about doing stuff that helps Americans or fixing social security or addressing the debt and all of the sudden we don't have any money. All the while eroding our constitutional rights and sovereignty with unsustainable debt . Are we as Americans the priority or is imperialism and the political class the priority? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Snake said: They're just pawns... why would you care? Weird but I have never used that word to describe service men and women...nice try Little MoeMoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Mainecat said: GOP: Party of "Borrow and spend" ... worse than tax and spend accusers ever imagined ... at least Democrats wanted to be sure we could pay for deficits over time. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html Washington (CNN Business)The US budget deficit widened to $1.067 trillion for the first 11 months of the fiscal year, an increase of 19% over this time last year, the Treasury Department reported Thursday. The current shortfall exceeds the full-year deficit for fiscal 2018, which was $898 billion. President Donald Trump, who promised during the 2016 campaign to eliminate the federal debt, has instead overseen a dramatic increase in deficits. The White House's Office of Management and Budget has predicted that the deficit will exceed $1 trillion for the entire fiscal year, which ends on September 30. On Monday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the federal deficit had surpassed $1 trillion in the first 11 months of fiscal 2019, according to its budget review. The last time the gap was that big was in 2012, in the aftermath of the financial crisis. A number of factors are driving the US deficit increase, including the $1.5 trillion tax cuts signed into law by Trump in 2017 along with a massive spending package passed by Congress. The deficit is expected to swell to $960 billion in fiscal 2019, according to the CBO's latest report, and average $1.2 trillion in each of the next 10 years. The CBO raised its forecast for this year's deficit by $63 billion after Trump signed into law a bipartisan two-year budget deal over the summer. In August, Congress agreed to a deal that would raise spending by an additional $320 billion over the next two years and suspended the debt ceiling through mid-2021. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that the 2017 tax cuts combined with new spending by Congress will add more than $4.1 trillion to the federal debt by 2029. You have no right to complain about spending as you support spending when a democrat does it. I venture to say not one person except maybe Momo supports trumps spending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Anler said: Fact is we are not defending the country in the middle East via, afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc we are in fact making the world less safe and spending trillions to do it. And everybody is ok with that for the most part but start talking about doing stuff that helps Americans or fixing social security or addressing the debt and all of the sudden we don't have any money. All the while eroding our constitutional rights and sovereignty with unsustainable debt . Are we as Americans the priority or is imperialism and the political class the priority? I don’t disagree. It sounds like you are advocating for America first? We don’t like that at all!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, Cold War said: I don’t disagree. It sounds like you are advocating for America first? We don’t like that at all!!! Always have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Anler said: Always have... Just saying. You start throwing out dog whistle like “America first”. Mother fuckers start losing their shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cold War said: Just saying. You start throwing out dog whistle like “America first”. Mother fuckers start losing their shit. Some most certainly do. It's our money why can't we use it on us first? Bizarre. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, jtssrx said: You have no right to complain about spending as you support spending when a democrat does it. I venture to say not one person except maybe Momo supports trumps spending Read my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Oh and hows the Trump infrastructure plan coming? Is it before his fantastic healthcare plan or his draining the swamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Oh and hows the Trump infrastructure plan coming? Is it before his fantastic healthcare plan or his draining the swamp? right after he pays off the deficit he will work on that, the plans tremendous believe me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: right after he pays off the deficit he will work on that, the plans tremendous believe me People have called him to tell him how wonderful it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/14/2019 at 7:54 PM, Ez ryder said: so are you on board to a 30% cut across the board ? I am On 9/14/2019 at 7:58 PM, steve from amherst said: me too 30% cut to veterans programs? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Ez ryder said: like I said 30% across the board to start. then start disscussing where the real cuts come from . Will never happen but a boy can dream Trump will raise it 30% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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