Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 Age of majority by state when child support ends http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/termination-of-child-support-age-of-majority.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, BOHICA said: https://www.doj.state.or.us/child-support/services/support-for-students-under-21/ i know 2 guys that had to continue to pay by court order. Kid stayed at moms house why going to school.... he had to continue to pay the ex My daughter graduated high school late because of an illness. I paid until she was 19. Not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: But it’s worth every penny IMO. I just don't understand why some don't want kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I’d have to break out some type of high end ROI tool to see if kids are “worth every penny”. I’ve gone week to week for almost 20 on this question. I guess we all have to make it seem that way and say it (and agree when others say it) to make us all look empathetic and caring but, we’ve got friends that chose not to have any and they’ve lived quite well, retired early and don’t miss having children a bit. I’d manage just fine. This was my wife’s idea! 47 minutes ago, frenchy said: Outside looking in anyone I know that does not have kids by choice their lives look empty to me. x100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: My daughter graduated high school late because of an illness. I paid until she was 19. Not a big deal. You didn’t have to pay child support while she went to college? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: You didn’t have to pay child support while she went to college? In Wisconsin the custodial parent pays until 19 if the kid is in high school. That can be different depending on the divorce decree and state. My daughter’s education was more expensive than child support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 42 minutes ago, Zambroski said: What’s wrong with selfishness? There is really no such thing as a truly unselfish act. Not enough selfishness makes us unhappy......and state silly things that are lies to make it seem otherwise. watching my kids grow and being part of their lives, becoming friends with their friends and parents, witnessing their successes and helping them through their losses, connecting with them on different levels as they mature... Sorry, no replacement for that. Especially not anything material you may have accumulated with the money you saved not having kids. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: In Wisconsin the custodial parent pays until 19 if the kid is in high school. That can be different depending on the divorce decree and state. My daughter’s education was more expensive than child support. Yep education is expensive for sure if you chose to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, frenchy said: watching my kids grow and being part of their lives, becoming friends with their friends and parents, witnessing their successes and helping them through their losses, connecting with them on different levels as they mature... Sorry, no replacement for that. Especially not anything material you may have accumulated with the money you saved not having kids. I’ve done and enjoyed the same. While I’ll never know, I believe I could have managed happiness and fullness in my life without children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, frenchy said: watching my kids grow and being part of their lives, becoming friends with their friends and parents, witnessing their successes and helping them through their losses, connecting with them on different levels as they mature... Sorry, no replacement for that. Especially not anything material you may have accumulated with the money you saved not having kids. Provided your kids have kids, wait for the grandkids to show up. It takes the satisfaction you just described to an entirely new level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: I’ve done and enjoyed the same. While I’ll never know, I believe I could have managed happiness and fullness in my life without children. I have the 'luxury' of having 50% of my time for just me too. I'd prefer if the kids were with me all the time, but I still see them whenever I want and am at all their sporting and school events, etc etc....I know lots of married dads who simply have no time for themselves and that would suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Yep education is expensive for sure if you chose to pay for it. The point here is, money is just a tool. Nothing more. Some guys form an emotional attachment to it. The other point is this... If your ex is a piece of then that usually means you’re a piece of shit too. Pieces of shit find each other. Edited September 12, 2019 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I’ve done and enjoyed the same. While I’ll never know, I believe I could have managed happiness and fullness in my life without children. Well you clearly enjoy listening to yourself talk so I have zero doubt this is true...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Is one child all one really needs or is their a cumulative fulfillment that comes from additional? Is there a point of diminishing returns? We absolutely love our dog and the wife has talked about getting a second one but I just know or at least think I know that there’s no way I would love a second one as much. We have two cats already and I definitely have a clear favorite out of those two. Those with multiple kids, would you say that you have a clear fave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You didn’t have to pay child support while she went to college? thats all state dependent, here in NH its until HS graduation/18 whichever comes later. There is no reason IMO that child support should ever be paid past that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: I have the 'luxury' of having 50% of my time for just me too. I'd prefer if the kids were with me all the time, but I still see them whenever I want and am at all their sporting and school events, etc etc....I know lots of married dads who simply have no time for themselves and that would suck. It sounds like you are divorced or separated? I think that makes a difference in how you view parenting. It’s all psychological fodder but, having the “guaranteed” time for yourself probably makes a difference. We’ve stayed married and I spent far less than 50% of my time with my child her first 10-12 years. I was always gone but, every spare moment I had was with her and much of what I did was for her. It was a really tough and exhausting balance sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, frenchy said: I have the 'luxury' of having 50% of my time for just me too. I'd prefer if the kids were with me all the time, but I still see them whenever I want and am at all their sporting and school events, etc etc....I know lots of married dads who simply have no time for themselves and that would suck. I don't get that. I'm pretty sure if my marriage went tits up I could never put someone else before my kid, wife feels the same way. Could not even imagine how empty life would be without our son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, frenchy said: watching my kids grow and being part of their lives, becoming friends with their friends and parents, witnessing their successes and helping them through their losses, connecting with them on different levels as they mature... Sorry, no replacement for that. Especially not anything material you may have accumulated with the money you saved not having kids. Yep, no doubt about this. Having kids is one of the most fulfilling experiences of my life. We have 3 kids and 5 grandkids. They are all so much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Is one child all one really needs or is their a cumulative fulfillment that comes from additional? Is there a point of diminishing returns? We absolutely love our dog and the wife has talked about getting a second one but I just know or at least think I know that there’s no way I would love a second one as much. We have two cats already and I definitely have a clear favorite out of those two. Those with multiple kids, would you say that you have a clear fave? We have two dogs to keep each other company and a cat. lol. We wanted three kids, but only had one. I think its good for kids to have siblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I don't get that. I'm pretty sure if my marriage went tits up I could never put someone else before my kid, wife feels the same way. Could not even imagine how empty life would be without our son. This is what good parents say. 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: We have two dogs to keep each other company and a cat. lol. We wanted three kids, but only had one. I think its good for kids to have siblings. We had one and that was the plan. Spoil one. We should have reworked that plan a bit I think but, meh....all the kids now are somewhat entitled in one way or another.....regardless of what they had growing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It sounds like you are divorced or separated? I think that makes a difference in how you view parenting. It’s all psychological fodder but, having the “guaranteed” time for yourself probably makes a difference. We’ve stayed married and I spent far less than 50% of my time with my child her first 10-12 years. I was always gone but, every spare moment I had was with her and much of what I did was for her. It was a really tough and exhausting balance sometimes. it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Depending on income level child support can vary greatly and be a major monthly income for some mothers. With out that kid payment there life style may have to change depending on there personal financial situation. yes kids can be expensive. Yes, my buddy was paying a little over 1200 a month for 2 children. She was remarried, had her own business, and her new spouse worked as well, but the only income that mattered was what she reported on her taxes as her income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 frenchy got divorced a long time ago I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I cant get divorced until my daughter turns 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pete said: frenchy got divorced a long time ago I think? I got separated like 6 years ago. About 18 months ago a registered letter gets delivered. I open it up and it's my divorce papers. Didn't even have to pay a dime for them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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