Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Interesting read. For the Judge Nap lovers. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-the-supreme-courts-most-controversial-decision-since-world-war-ii During one week in January 1973, President Richard M. Nixon was inaugurated to his second term, former President Lyndon Baines Johnson died, the United States and North Vietnam entered into the Paris peace accords, and the Supreme Court legalized abortion. Only the last of these events continues to affect and haunt the moral and constitutional order every minute of every day. The court’s decision in Roe v. Wade is arguably its most controversial in the post-World War II era. Its effect has been as pernicious to human life as was its 19th-century intellectual progenitor, Dred Scott v. Sanford, in which the Supreme Court ruled that African-Americans are not persons. Roe declares that the states may not ban abortions during the first trimester of a woman’s pregnancy because the states have no interest in or right to protect the baby during that time period. This made-up rule was a radical and unconstitutional departure from nearly 200 years of jurisprudence, during which the states themselves decided what interests to protect, guided since the end of the Civil War by the prohibition on slavery, and the requirements of due process and equal protection. During the second trimester of pregnancy, the court declared in the Roe case, states may regulate abortions but only to protect the health of the mother, not the life of the baby, in which, the court found inexplicably, the states have no interest. This, too, was a radical departure from well-settled law. Under Roe, during the third trimester of pregnancy, the states may ban abortions or they may permit them; they may protect the life of the baby or they may not protect it. This diabolic rule, the product of judicial compromise and an embarrassing and destructive rejection of the Civil War era constitutional amendments, permits the states to allow abortions up to the moment before birth, as is the law in New Jersey, where the state even pays for abortions for those who cannot afford them. The linchpin of Roe v. Wade is the judicial determination that the baby in the womb is not a person. The court felt it was legally necessary to make this dreadful declaration because the Constitution guarantees due process (a fair jury trial, and its attendant constitutional protections) whenever the government wants to interfere with the life, liberty or property of any person; and it prohibits the states from permitting some persons to violate the basic human rights of others, as was the case under slavery. As the Supreme Court sometimes does, it ruled on an issue and came to a conclusion that none of the litigants before it had sought. Roe candidly recognizes that if the fetus in the womb is a person, then all laws permitting abortion are unconstitutional. The court understood that abortion and fetal personhood would constitute the states permitting private persons – doctors – to murder other persons – babies in the womb. So, in order to accommodate the killing, it simply redefined the meaning of “person,” lest it permit a state of affairs that due process and the prohibition of slavery could never tolerate. The British writer George Orwell predicted this horrific and totalitarian use of words in his 1949 unnerving description of tyranny, entitled 1984. Is the fetus in the womb a person? Well, no court has contradicted the Supreme Court on this, and the Roe supporters argue that non-personhood is necessary for sexual freedom. Think about that: the pro-abortion rights crowd, rejecting the natural and probable consequences of ordinary, healthy sexual intercourse, wants to be able to kill babies in the name of sexual freedom. Now I take a back seat to no one when it comes to personal freedom, but the freedom to kill innocents violates all norms of civilized society. It violates the natural law. It wasn’t even condoned in the state of nature, before governments existed. It violates the 13th and 14th Amendments. Yet, the Supreme Court and numerous congresses have refused to interfere with it. It is a grave and profound evil. It is legalized murder. Is the fetus in the womb a person? Since the fetus has human parents and all the needed human genome to develop into postnatal life, of course the fetus is a person. I’ve argued many times that a simple one-line statute could have been enacted when Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush or George H.W. Bush were in the White House and Republicans and pro-life Democrats, the few that there are, controlled the Congress. They could have ended the slaughter by legislatively defining the fetus in the womb to be a person. They did not. Are the self-proclaimed pro-life folks in Congress sincere, or do they march under the pro-life banner just to win votes? Their failure to attempt to define the fetus in the womb as a person seriously, and the Supreme Court’s unprecedented dance around the requirement of due process and the prohibition of slavery has resulted in 44 million abortions in 43 years. That’s an abortion a minute. Abortion is today one of the most frequent medical procedures performed in America; and the Democrats have become its champion. They, and their few Republican allies, have become the champions of totalitarianism as well. The removal of legal personhood from human offspring in order to destroy the offspring is only the work of tyrants. How long can a society last that violates universal norms and kills the babies in the name of “sexual freedom”? Whose personhood will the government define away next? Edited December 19, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 most hypocritical bullshit in all of history......and that is saying a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The jews, God’s chosen people, allows the state to pay for abortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The alt left adores killing black babies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The jews, God’s chosen people, allows the state to pay for abortions. that one just kills my fundi buddy I bring that shit up when he gets all jew happy on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: that one just kills my fundi buddy I bring that shit up when he gets all jew happy on me It’s one thing the jews got right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 SMH conservatives whining about abortion yet don't want to pay for poor peoples kids they can;t afford. i'll spend the 500 in taxpayer money today to save tens of thousands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: SMH conservatives whining about abortion yet don't want to pay for poor peoples kids they can;t afford. i'll spend the 500 in taxpayer money today to save tens of thousands I’ve said the same thing and Flat Earth JT told me there are people lined up to adopt all these babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 19, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I’ve said the same thing and Flat Earth JT told me there are people lined up to adopt all these babies. It is difficult to find reliable statistics to answer this question. Some sources estimate that there are about 2 million couples currently waiting to adopt in the United States — which means there are as many as 36 couples waiting for every one child who is placed for adoption. https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/waiting_adoptive_families One would assume as gay marriage becomes more and more convenient and popular those statistics would only go up. Edited December 19, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 Sure but let’s be honest here and what color baby are they waiting for not to mention even your quote says the numbers are unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Angry ginger said: SMH conservatives whining about abortion yet don't want to pay for poor peoples kids they can;t afford. i'll spend the 500 in taxpayer money today to save tens of thousands this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Man its hard for me to really give a shit. Not even amoeba like in the scope of issues this country faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: The alt left adores killing black babies “Alt left” let’s women choose. Freedom. “Alt Right” are pro birth. Not pro life. They want the kids to be born so they can deny them the necessities of life and laugh when the cops shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Angry ginger said: SMH conservatives whining about abortion yet don't want to pay for poor peoples kids they can;t afford. i'll spend the 500 in taxpayer money today to save tens of thousands Agreed. Not sure if it was bullshit or not but evidently violent crimes started to decrease 16 years after Roe vs Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: Agreed. Not sure if it was bullshit or not but evidently violent crimes started to decrease 16 years after Roe vs Wade was more like 21 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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