f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kev144 said: What was it momo was trying to claim? About the same bullshit Dave is here trying to claim.....neither one of them have a fucking clue I was speaking to gas mileage on turbo sleds the other day and talking about when the sled was in vacuum or running 1-2 lbs of boost and Dave says "Who in the fuck buys a turbo sled and runs 1-2 lbs of boost" fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: Just seems like if you have to go to that little finish on the helix you may be able to pull more gear and mph It will pull more gear but the MPH stays the same but it doesn’t hook as quick. If you gear up You have to engage down to keep the track speed down out of the hole so it doesn’t burn out. You can try engaging heavy with taller gears and it’ll work sometimes but you’ll find that it’s incomsistent My clutching is almost spot on. It’s working a little hard in the first 100’ and it’s a little light in the last 100. I went to that new track and it hooks so much better I had to basically change my entire set up. If your clutching isnvery close its best to leave the primary alone and fine tune it with the secondary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: It will pull more gear but the MPH stays the same but it doesn’t hook as quick. If you gear up You have to engage down to keep the track speed down out of the hole so it doesn’t burn out. You can try engaging heavy with taller gears and it’ll work sometimes but you’ll find that it’s incomsistent My clutching is almost spot on. It’s working a little hard in the first 100’ and it’s a little light in the last 100. I went to that new track and it hooks so much better I had to basically change my entire set up. If your clutching isnvery close its best to leave the primary alone and fine tune it with the secondary I've never tried to set anything up for such a short run but it just seems totally counter intuitive to limit RPM by limiting shift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, f7ben said: No you dont Yeah you can shim the primary it’s just a cunt. @DAVE isn’t wrong. It’s easy to raise the engagement on a cat but getting it much lower than Stock is a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Yeah you can shim the primary it’s just a cunt. @DAVE isn’t wrong. It’s easy to raise the engagement on a cat but getting it much lower than Stock is a pain Tucking the weights will change the engagement RPM but its isnt going to provide as "stall" as he put it not unless you flat spot the top of the weight where it contacts the roller once tucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I've never tried to set anything up for such a short run but it just seems totally counter intuitive to limit RPM by limiting shift I need to load the motor more up top. It’s around 8150 in the last 100’ and that’s too high. Im adding 2* up top to bring it closer to 8000-8050. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Tucking the weights will change the engagement RPM but its isnt going to provide as "stall" as he put it not unless you flat spot the top of the weight where it contacts the roller once tucked “Stall” would be an improper term yes but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: I need to load the motor more up top. It’s around 8150 in the last 100’ and that’s too high. Im adding 2* up top to bring it closer to 8000-8050. What you think that is gonna do for you mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: What you think that is gonna do for you mph Hoping it adds .5 mph or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: “Stall” would be an improper term yes but ahh yah.....I know I've never heard of anyone tucking or untucking weights or using belt to sheave to try to do anything concerning a "stall" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Hoping it adds .5 mph or more. You still running stock compression setup and adjuster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Yeah you can shim the primary it’s just a cunt. @DAVE isn’t wrong. It’s easy to raise the engagement on a cat but getting it much lower than Stock is a pain Ive done it lots of times... especially on qsc revx primary on my atv...best just to ignore Ben....how can you take a guy seriously who doesnt even have a bearing press in his so called shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: ahh yah.....I know I've never heard of anyone tucking or untucking weights or using belt to sheave to try to do anything concerning a "stall" It’s an uncommon practice cause for one it’s a cunt and really only have to do it to make engagement lower than Stock and hardly anyone ever does that. Arm profile can do it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: “Stall” would be an improper term yes but We call it a stall.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, DAVE said: Ive done it lots of times... especially on qsc revx primary on my atv...best just to ignore Ben....how can you take a guy seriously who doesnt even have a bearing press in his so called shop. Oh yah.....thats totally the same as drag racing a sled you have yet to tell me how this provided you any "stall" .......it may have changed you engagement because of the weight profile ....or maybe you are dumb enough to have just increased your belt to sheave a whole bunch so it slams in and you think that is cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: You still running stock compression setup and adjuster? Stock compression yeah im not allowed to touch the motor or exhaust.... what limiter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Stock compression yeah im not allowed to touch the motor or exhaust.... what limiter? No I mean compression style secondary spring and adjuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Oh yah.....thats totally the same as drag racing a sled you have yet to tell me how this provided you any "stall" .......it may have changed you engagement because of the weight profile ....or maybe you are dumb enough to have just increased your belt to sheave a whole bunch so it slams in and you think that is cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, DAVE said: exactly.....you have no clue what you are babbling about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: No I mean compression style secondary spring and adjuster Ah yes I am. Orange spring and a screw adjuster from a 2007 crossfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Ah yes I am. Orange spring and a screw adjuster from a 2007 crossfire How many of them stupid little torx screws you strip out changing helixs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: How many of them stupid little torx screws you strip out changing helixs Lol a lot. Fuck those things are soft junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Lol a lot. Fuck those things are soft junk. I was just looking at my clutches the other day contemplating getting the tools to take the spider nut off and trying to repair the roller that has a bad bearing Yah......fuck that shit I like the old roller style secondarys.......5 minute helix changes and nice soft torsional springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: exactly.....you have no clue what you are babbling about Ok.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: I was just looking at my clutches the other day contemplating getting the tools to take the spider nut off and trying to repair the roller that has a bad bearing Yah......fuck that shit I like the old roller style secondarys.......5 minute helix changes and nice soft torsional springs Youre an expert but dont even have the tools.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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