Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Its amazing the difference proper setup and maintenance can make. I go through these things on every sled I ride proper clutch alignment , offset and belt deflection along with clean belts and scuffed clutch sheaves chain tension set properly and not over tight , track tension set to just tight enough not to ratchet track alignment perfect and ski toe set to just a 1/4 inch toe out Then there are the small changes that can yield decent cumulative gains. Things like Delrin washers in spring cups Obviously the biggest thing is traction ....long studs and plenty of them wins races with your buddies !!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111 I fucking love grudge racing for fun Clutching, studding and suspension setup wins grudge match drags. That or having 100 HP more than the competition. If your not running at least 1/2" above the lug you are probably losing. Honestly having a good "butt dyno" is a must as you make changes unless you have a timing system or sled to compare too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Clutching, studding and suspension setup wins grudge match drags. That or having 100 HP more than the competition. If your not running at least 1/2" above the lug you are probably losing. Honestly having a good "butt dyno" is a must as you make changes unless you have a timing system or sled to compare too. Obsessively reading the internet and learning to decipher who is full of shit and who knows their shit helps too lolz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Obsessively reading the internet and learning to decipher who is full of shit and who knows their shit helps too lolz Very true. Its quite easy to recognize the posers from the knowledgeable tuners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Very true. Its quite easy to recognize the posers from the knowledgeable tuners. I'm a poser ....I know enough to get by and thats about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Any new 800 is a tuners race in 500-660’. 1000’ And the old CFR is going to beat everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Any new 800 is a tuners race in 500-660’. 1000’ And the old CFR is going to beat everyone chassis efficiency becomes more prevalent as the speeds increase.......hence the old f7 world beater !!!!!!!!!11111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: chassis efficiency becomes more prevalent as the speeds increase.......hence the old f7 world beater !!!!!!!!!11111 They had good top end. But in a drag race the f7’s get drug by the 800’s now. My cfr would eat my old f7 alive in 660’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: They had good top end. But in a drag race the f7’s get drug by the 800’s now. My cfr would eat my old f7 alive in 660’ well sure.....the new sleds are making more tq by 7k rpms than the 700 did at peak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: well sure.....the new sleds are making more tq by 7k rpms than the 700 did at peak The 13.5” wide track didn’t help on snow either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: The 13.5” wide track didn’t help on snow either ITS A CHAINSAW !!!!!!!!!11111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: ITS A CHAINSAW !!!!!!!!!11111 Lol it’s a narrow turd that was hard to keep straight on snow and has no good track options anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Lol it’s a narrow turd that was hard to keep straight on snow and has no good track options anymore exactly......A CHAINSAW !!!!!!!!!!111111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 21 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: 850 is a dumb size. Why not go to at least 900 They didn't change the bore. They went with a longer stroke. They don't want big coffee can pistons slapping around. I wonder if they were limited by how long they could stroke it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, jtssrx said: They didn't change the bore. They went with a longer stroke. They don't want big coffee can pistons slapping around. I wonder if they were limited by how long they could stroke it? cat has had much larger pistons in very successful engines for a long time.......what the fuck is skidoo's problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: cat has had much larger pistons in very successful engines for a long time.......what the fuck is skidoo's problem? Likely a retooling issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Likely a retooling issue I know....thats what I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, f7ben said: cat has had much larger pistons in very successful engines for a long time.......what the fuck is skidoo's problem? The 850 is a new motor top to bottom just like the 600 they released today. There has to be a reason they shy away from a larger bore with a longer stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, jtssrx said: The 850 is a new motor top to bottom just like the 600 they released today. There has to be a reason they shy away from a larger bore with a longer stroke. I have no clue......I'm just saying that skidoo is a faggot company run buy faggots and marketing shit to faggots......thats all I'm trying to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 SkiDoo sales will be back to blowing the rest away now that there is going to be a 600 G4. It was only a matter of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: SkiDoo sales will be back to blowing the rest away now that there is going to be a 600 G4. It was only a matter of time doo needs some help with that, seeing more new cats and poos this year on the trails than i have seen since the REVolution began. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: doo needs some help with that, seeing more new cats and poos this year on the trails than i have seen since the REVolution began. Yup....today again...very few ski doos....and no g4s....mostly polaris...todays ride got cut short...backs killing me and pouring rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: doo needs some help with that, seeing more new cats and poos this year on the trails than i have seen since the REVolution began. Sales slipped a bit because the 600 has only been available in the XS chassis the last 2 years since the G4 came out. This new 600 will be a full production for '19. Watch and see how many '19 G4s you see next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Sales slipped a bit because the 600 has only been available in the XS chassis the last 2 years since the G4 came out. This new 600 will be a full production for '19. Watch and see how many '19 G4s you see next year. Not likely....people are figuring out the other brands are just as good for a cheaper price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Highmark said: No shit. If you are riding so hard on bumpy trails that you need more suspension than what is offered on the so called rough trail sleds then you are most likely out of control. I'm a big guy and I can set my XRS up anywhere from stiff as hell to pretty soft (for me). I think the older XRS's were even more stiff. I would say that it's someone who doesn't have a clue how to dial in a sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, f7ben said: I have no clue......I'm just saying that skidoo is a faggot company run buy faggots and marketing shit to faggots......thats all I'm trying to say Lol you crazy 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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