Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, revkevsdi said: Fucktards like you can't make up your mind. First it isn't happening. But if it is happening it's sunspots. then volcanoes, then the data is wrong. You'd think the 5% of fakers that are paid by the fossil fuel industry could at least decide on a narrative. What’s not happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, irv said: And the ones who think C02 is a pollutant. I wonder how trees and plants survived before cars!!!1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, ManOnManOral said: using solar requires this. Is that the photo of a copper mine that dolts keep pretending is a lithium mine? If you have any pier reviewed studies that compare the environmental impact of an ice vehicle to an EV's complete life cycle of material for the vehicle and energy use during its' lifetime please show it. Otherwise fuck off with your stupid photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, irv said: And the ones who think C02 is a pollutant. 9 minutes ago, Kev144 said: I wonder how trees and plants survived before cars!!!1111 You'd die without water too. Why don't you two put your head under water for 5 minutes and see how that works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, revkevsdi said: You'd die without water too. Why don't you two put your head under water for 5 minutes and see how that works? Wow that went dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: You'd die without water too. Why don't you two put your head under water for 5 minutes and see how that works? And your point being? Again, for the umpteenth time, please tell me what you have seen for yourself and what the climate emergency is here in Canada. Don't move the goal posts with some comment that has nothing to do with the questions like your water comment above, just tell me in your own words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 OOOO anger from the libs. Exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, revkevsdi said: You'd die without water too. Why don't you two put your head under water for 5 minutes and see how that works? Like washing your hair? Won’t make you die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Interesting read on a great and highly feasible alternative to chemical battery storage for electrical grids..... https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-spot-530-000-potential-pumped-hydro-sites-to-meet-all-our-renewable-energy-needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Interesting read on a great and highly feasible alternative to chemical battery storage for electrical grids..... https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-spot-530-000-potential-pumped-hydro-sites-to-meet-all-our-renewable-energy-needs So tell me this. how much energy will it staore and how much energy will it take to move the water up to the storage? Ya i thought so. Then you also forgot to consider the energy to build and maintain it across its lifespan. You see, this simplistic ideas are not so simplistic but are presented as such to fool idiots like you. Edited July 11, 2019 by ManOnManOral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: So tell me this. how much energy will it staore and how much energy will it take to move the water up to the storage? Ya i thought so. Then you also forgot to consider the energy to build and maintain it across its lifespan. You see, this simplistic ideas are not so simplistic but are presented as such to fool idiots like you. That's the nature of "storage" - duh. You put energy in while there's an excess and you can withdraw when your primary source isn't producing. I don't think anybody is forgetting about the costs you speak of. Currently, pumped hydro accounts for 95% of the U.S. utility scale storage so they'd have to "fool" a lot of people to pull that off if it weren't actually viable. I get it, you fear progress but have no way of stopping it. How's bout you make yourself useful and cry me a river so I can convert it into hydro power, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: That's the nature of "storage" - duh. You put energy in while there's an excess and you can withdraw when your primary source isn't producing. I don't think anybody is forgetting about the costs you speak of. Currently, pumped hydro accounts for 95% of the U.S. utility scale storage so they'd have to "fool" a lot of people to pull that off if it weren't actually viable. I get it, you fear progress but have no way of stopping it. How's bout you make yourself useful and cry me a river so I can convert it into hydro power, eh? Of course they are forgetting. they never took into account any environmental impacts at all. it is a great idea, UNTIL you look closer. then you see how it would create a large amount of pollution, disrupt natural waterflow, take 3 times as much solar and wind generation to feed a grid, create massive amounts of pollution in the contrustruction of materials. NONE of this is accounted for to state this is a clean alternative. i bet NG is cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Only the truly stupid fear science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, XC.Morrison said: Interesting read on a great and highly feasible alternative to chemical battery storage for electrical grids..... https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-spot-530-000-potential-pumped-hydro-sites-to-meet-all-our-renewable-energy-needs Pumped hydro is a retarded idea unless you just don’t have access to uranium or running water to build a dam for hydroelectricity Edited July 11, 2019 by Duke KaBoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: Only the truly stupid fear science. True. Like the morons here that think we’re going to die from too much c02 when we’re still in a c02 drought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: Only the truly stupid fear science. Fearing science is stupid. However questioning bad science is imperative. If you can afford $1.50 per kwh for electricity that is wonderful. Poor working people cannot. Any detrimental environmental issues caused by the use of fossil fuels are dwarfed by the harm that comes to lower middle and lower income earners and the poor by implimenting high cost energy into the mainstream. The fact is, at this moment climate change has NOT caused any catastrophic events in weather patterns. Any reports it has are junk science and outright lies. Every time a forest fire happens we now hear it is caused by climate change, all flooding, well that too is now deemed the same. It is an outright lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: Fearing science is stupid. However questioning bad science is imperative. If you can afford $1.50 per kwh for electricity that is wonderful. Poor working people cannot. Any detrimental environmental issues caused by the use of fossil fuels are dwarfed by the harm that comes to lower middle and lower income earners and the poor by implimenting high cost energy into the mainstream. The fact is, at this moment climate change has NOT caused any catastrophic events in weather patterns. Any reports it has are junk science and outright lies. Every time a forest fire happens we now hear it is caused by climate change, all flooding, well that too is now deemed the same. It is an outright lie. This is completely true even the IPCC report concludes that once you account for population and urban sprawl there has been no appreciable increase in damages from weather disasters. The very best we could do is slightly slow climate change. But make everyone poor in the process. It’s better to keep the economy rolling to lift more people out of poverty so it’s easier for the small number of people to relocate if they ever get displaced. Which historically is not unprecedented Edited July 11, 2019 by Duke KaBoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Only the truly stupid fear science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, irv said: True scientists say this is very much the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, Duke KaBoom said: True scientists say this is very much the case Exactly, and the true/real scientists are being stifled. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, irv said: How much is spent on climate science vs denial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 If 90% of the scientists are correct and we act upon their findings. we spend money on cleaner energy. Renewable energy continues to become cheaper. Our air and rivers become cleaner. If we don’t listen, there will be more pollution, we lose far more money to natural disasters and we hit a tipping point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, irv said: Exactly, and the true/real scientists are being stifled. Fact. Very much a fact yes. They go on a lot about how it’s turned into a religion too. Look at boomboom for example. He knows nothing about climate change but if you tell him he’s not going to die from climate change he actually gets mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, revkevsdi said: If 90% of the scientists are correct and we act upon their findings. we spend money on cleaner energy. Renewable energy continues to become cheaper. Our air and rivers become cleaner. If we don’t listen, there will be more pollution, we lose far more money to natural disasters and we hit a tipping point. Green energy will pollute significantly more than C02 ever could 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Duke KaBoom said: Green energy will pollute significantly more than C02 ever could You love stupid arguments. Bet you will be first in line at the government trough when your farm starts to suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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