NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, jtssrx said: It hasn’t and you’re a fucking idiot. It can’t be scientifically proven your fuck stick Of course it can, it can be measured how much it will bend light near a star. It MUST be used in calculations concerning our GPS system. We can also measure it with separated atomic clocks. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Dinosaurs are a myth as well. radioactive isotopes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Dinosaurs are a myth as well. So throw out fossils and radiometric dating of rocks? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Of course it can, it can be measured how much it will bend light near a star. It MUST be used in calculations concerning our GPS system. We can also measure it with separated atomic clocks. Neal YAWN..... Light...MYTH...Stars...MYTH ......GPS is ground based....Atomic clocks are no different then a $5 timex from walmart NEXT!!!!!!!1111111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: So throw out fossils and radiometric dating of rocks? Neal I dont put much faith in rock dating......but carbon dating things that used to be alive is accurate enough for estimates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: I dont put much faith in rock dating......but carbon dating things that used to be alive is accurate enough for estimates Carbon dating isn't very good for old samples, as it's halflife is far to quick. Why do you lack faith in other forms of radiometric dating if carbon dating is okie dokie? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Carbon dating isn't very good for old samples, as it's halflife is far to quick. Why do you lack faith in other forms of radiometric dating if carbon dating is okie dokie? Neal Organic material provides a much better picture no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Organic material provides a much better picture no? Carbon dating is only applicable to 50,000 years or so, so while it is good for near term measurements, it cannot help with older samples. The same ideas are used for other isotopes/element pairs which have much longer half lives, thus are applicable to the range of dating. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Carbon dating is only applicable to 50,000 years or so, so while it is good for near term measurements, it cannot help with older samples. The same ideas are used for other isotopes/element pairs which have much longer half lives, thus are applicable to the range of dating. Neal Right....but if we dont have modern examples of the things we are trying to measure we are just guessing at the original concentration of radioactive isotopes. I will admit I am not well versed on this subject. Its been a long time since I did any significant reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: Right....but if we dont have modern examples of the things we are trying to measure we are just guessing at the original concentration of radioactive isotopes. I will admit I am not well versed on this subject. Its been a long time since I did any significant reading We use modern rock to set the originating baseline for the ratios of elements trapped in rock when "new". The same applies with carbon dating. We use recently dead organic material to determine the starting point of the ratios. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: We use modern rock to set the originating baseline for the ratios of elements trapped in rock when "new". The same applies with carbon dating. We use recently dead organic material to determine the starting point of the ratios. Neal And that was the hang up .....the estimations of rock isotopes were not all that accurate and our methods were flawed there as I recall reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Lol dinosaurs are fake... This dude is a straight bible thumper. Tried to play it off, but holy shit HAHAHAHA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: And that was the hang up .....the estimations of rock isotopes were not all that accurate and our methods were flawed there as I recall reading Well I am not sure what examples you speak of, but the accuracy of samples can always be argued. Is +/- 1,000,000 years accurate when making a measurement of 65,000,000 years? The processes are always being refined to narrow the +/- range of a given sample. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Well I am not sure what examples you speak of, but the accuracy of samples can always be argued. Is +/- 1,000,000 years accurate when making a measurement of 65,000,000 years? The processes are always being refined to narrow the +/- range of a given sample. Neal I have no idea......its just something I recall developing as an opinion and I dont have a current basis for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, jtssrx said: Every celestial body is round how do you know.?? You me and every astronaut has never been to one of these planets. Every picture is cgi and every picture of Mars is a fucking faked fraud. If you believe all these places are what they say they are not one islike the planets we live on. So why cant the shape be different as well??? There is in fact scientific proof. You refuse to acknowledge it the biggest being a lack of curvature and the fraud that is gravity Every celestial body that we know of is round. Try to comprehend what is actually posted and not just what you want it to say. I have never seen another planet but I also have never seen Australia but I'm pretty fucking sure they both exist. You're gonna have to do alot better than using illogical arguments like that. Every picture of Mars is a faked fraud? Now who's not open minded? Planets being in something other than an spherical shape is illogical. Objects that rotate around an axis and also revolve around another object tend towards a spherical shape, that's easily demonstrable. You've been proven wrong on the lack of curvature bullshit that you post but you keep using it like your Ace of Spades. 53 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Goid god yourself. Stop being a fucking parrot. Gravity has never been and will never be proven because it cannot be recreated. You always spit this big game about how smart you are and how the government is so corrupt and blah blah blah blah blah but you sit back and believe some bullshit theory that cannot be proven give me a fucking break Talking to yourself now? 32 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Gravity has been scientifically proven, and demonstrated. It can be calculated, measured and applied. Why do you say such outlandish things? Gravity isn't "magical", it's scientific... Neal It appears magical though if you're completely ignorant to how things work. The Internet seems magical to plenty of people after all. 24 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Dinosaurs are a myth as well. GTFO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Dinosaurs are a myth as well. I've gotta hear this. Please explain to the class how exactly Dinosaurs are a myth. Are the fossils fake? Who created the fossils and for what purpose? Were they planted there by Satan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, SSFB said: I've gotta hear this. Please explain to the class how exactly Dinosaurs are a myth. Are the fossils fake? Who created the fossils and for what purpose? Were they planted there by Satan? I already posted it in his other thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted November 17, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted November 17, 2017 JT, how much do you weigh? On Earth, how is weight calculated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted November 17, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted November 17, 2017 You can't buy entertainment of this quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 13 hours ago, s pump said: Weather must be good there as he would be 128 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 11 hours ago, bussman said: Most of the flat earth stuff I looked into was really kooky but I did fund some of actual scientific theories that are compelling enough everybody with an open mind should at least think about it. First thing is they don’t think the earth is “flat”. Basically the part of “earth” we live on is just the dome of what is a round or oval planet that we can’t access past Antarctica. The map they use is pretty cool too. Basically the North Pole is our center and Antarctica wraps around the bottom of our “world”. I’m not saying it’s real or not real, but some of you that ridicule it should ask yourself why you’re so certain our earth is “round”. Make up your own minds after pontificating everything you mentally can. Just stop it Brian 8 hours ago, jtssrx said: Dinosaurs are a myth as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 https://www.space.com/38813-astronaut-captures-fireball-meteor-from-space-video.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: https://www.space.com/38813-astronaut-captures-fireball-meteor-from-space-video.html Aren't you a young earth creationist guy Don? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Aren't you a young earth creationist guy Don? Neal As I've said in the past, I have no idea how old the earth is, and no one else does either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, XCR1250 said: As I've said in the past, I have no idea how old the earth is, and no one else does either. Sure, but you can admit that we do know how old the Earth isnt, 6,000 years, 2,000,000 years, 10 years, and that we can bracket the age of the Earth in terms of tens or even hundreds of millions of years, with respect to a 4.6 billion year age, right? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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