ActionfigureJoe Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/pf/insurance/las-vegas-shooting-health-care/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Now how can this be spun to make it Trumps fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, BEANPOLE DAVE said: Now how can this be spun to make it Trumps fault... Their media is working on it. Right now, they are busy covering yesterday’s “CIVIL WAR!!!” in the Repub party...and giving Corker and Flake their 10 minutes of fame on stage. But tomorrow....Trump will have to answer for these medical costs...and why he hasn’t called each victim’s family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 Send the bill to the NRA..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 See? Corky’s already getting the advance talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 So easy it's almost boring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, SnowRider said: So easy it's almost boring... But everyone knows youre still hurting inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Yes, you’re “just fishing” and and not just showing your blatant ignorance and hypocrisy. We believe you. meanwhile....you are still behind your work quota numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, BEANPOLE DAVE said: Now how can this be spun to make it Trumps fault... If we had single payer it all would be free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, BEANPOLE DAVE said: Now how can this be spun to make it Trumps fault... It isn't his fault, but he is still a massive turd of a president. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Highmark said: If we had single payer it all would be free. Unfortunately, some really do think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, Highmark said: If we had single payer it all would be free. Meanwhile we pay to the point of bankruptcy.... So much better. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Whiny trump cunts. Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Meanwhile we pay to the point of bankruptcy.... So much better. Neal Single payer is not the cure all. The people who pay would still be the ones paying under single payer. You are fooling yourself to think the left would make anyone getting govt HCI now would pay under single payer. You really think the left will all of a sudden say we no longer on going to put the burden to the upper classes and business' onto the backs of the American people? It would simply be a shift in who gets the money (govt v private) instead of who is paying the bill. The pro govt hci crowd seems to forget is almost 50% of American's are ALREADY under govt HCI. Why isn't it keeping costs down? Edited October 25, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Single payer is not the cure all. The people who pay would still be the ones paying under single payer. You are fooling yourself to think the left would make anyone getting govt HCI now would pay under single payer. You really think the left will all of a sudden say we no longer on going to put the burden to the upper classes and business' onto the backs of the American people? It would simply be a shift in who gets the money (govt v private) instead of who is paying the bill. The pro govt hci crowd seems to forget is almost 50% of American's are ALREADY under govt HCI. Why isn't it keeping costs down? And neither is private. When is the last time HCI wend down under private insurance? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: And neither is private. When is the last time HCI wend down under private insurance? Neal Mine did this year. Adjuster claims our small business group had an unusually low claim year due to rising deductibles. In other words some people didn't go to the doctor. Even private insurance isn't really private when its regulated as heavily as it is. Edited October 25, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: Single payer is not the cure all. The people who pay would still be the ones paying under single payer. You are fooling yourself to think the left would make anyone getting govt HCI now would pay under single payer. You really think the left will all of a sudden say we no longer on going to put the burden to the upper classes and business' onto the backs of the American people? It would simply be a shift in who gets the money (govt v private) instead of who is paying the bill. The pro govt hci crowd seems to forget is almost 50% of American's are ALREADY under govt HCI. Why isn't it keeping costs down? Why are other countries with better healthcare on average able to cover everyone for 1/3-1/2 the cost per captita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Mine did this year. Adjuster claims our small business group had an unusually low claim year due to rising deductibles. In other words some people didn't go to the doctor. Even private insurance isn't really private when its regulated as heavily as it is. Ok, do can you combine your coverage with the nation and see if policy costs went up or down? And yet look how shitty private insurance is. It will NOT be better ever. Single payer offers a better road. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Ok, do can you combine your coverage with the nation and see if policy costs went up or down? And yet look how shitty private insurance is. It will NOT be better ever. Single payer offers a better road. Neal My private insurance is incredible. Not one single complaint and had two major health issues with kids in the past 6 years. One son had a benign tumor removed from his vertebrae/spine (look up Osteoblastoma) and the other had a severe clot from thoracic outlet syndrome spent a week in intensive care and had his first rib removed to prevent further occurrences. Between the 2 over $500K in medical bills of which we were responsible for $1400 TOTAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: My private insurance is incredible. Not one single complaint and had two major health issues with kids in the past 6 years. One son had a benign tumor removed from his vertebrae/spine (look up Osteoblastoma) and the other had a severe clot from thoracic outlet syndrome spent a week in intensive care and had his first rib removed to prevent further occurrences. Between the 2 over $500K in medical bills of which we were responsible for $1400 TOTAL. And that care can be offered to more citizens under single payer. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: And that care can be offered to more citizens under single payer. Neal Not one person in this country would have been denied that care. Both were considered life threatening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Not one person in this country would have been denied that care. Both were considered life threatening. And yet the impact on other families could have been massive and bankrupting. That is the issue you fail to grasp. Neal Edited October 25, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: And that care can be offered to more citizens under single payer. Neal That would be welfare. Everyone would begin to lose incentive to work. We’d have chaos. We’d all end up like the Germans. Who’d want that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Why are other countries with better healthcare on average able to cover everyone for 1/3-1/2 the cost per captita? I'll let you list why single payer will reduce costs then I'll counter with why they won't....at least to the extent "other countries" pay. Go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: I'll let you list why single payer will reduce costs then I'll counter with why they won't....at least to the extent "other countries" pay. Go... And likewise for private insurance, wherein we have decades of payment costs. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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