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10 minutes ago, oleroule said:

a movie killed four people in benghazi.

that the type of story you want?

nope, terrorists killed 4 people in bengazi. the video was suspect, as it caused uprisings and other violence elsewhere at the same time. did you even know that? seemed like a logical suspect at the time :dunno: after an investigation we learned more.  

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3 hours ago, SnowRider said:

:lmao: Two fucking idiots sucking off Dump 24/7 :lol: Dumpers are the dumbest motherfuckers in America 👍

wire to wire mother fuckers .

again today showing the would how un self aware you are . any more sure thing  predictions for us ?

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21 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

wire to wire mother fuckers .

again today showing the would how un self aware you are . any more sure thing  predictions for us ?

:lmao: You're borderline retarded....and I mean that in a good Christian way :lmao: 

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8 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

:lmao: You're borderline retarded....and I mean that in a good Christian way :lmao: 

We’ve seen your picture dude. Might want to back off the retarded comments... :lmao::lol: 

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i read about the story and this was a route and mission completed a dozen times by the troops. there’s some suggestion that the local tribal leaders were in with the attackers. might be a matter of troops getting slack and taking safety for granted. hard to believe with special ops. but they’re people too. 

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1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

i read about the story and this was a route and mission completed a dozen times by the troops. there’s some suggestion that the local tribal leaders were in with the attackers. might be a matter of troops getting slack and taking safety for granted. hard to believe with special ops. but they’re people too. 

Quite plausible but far better to politicize it and blame Trumps travel ban....fucking idiot hacks.

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6 hours ago, Snoslinger said:

The attack, apparently carried out by militants affiliated with Islamic State, was the deadliest since Trump took office, yet the U.S. military’s Africa Command still does not have a clear “story board” of facts that commanders usually gather swiftly after deadly incidents. That has senior Pentagon officials and lawmakers suggesting incompetence. 

The questions arising from the incident, particularly about the availability of additional military support to the patrol, echo those raised in the aftermath of the 2012 Benghazi attack in Libya, which resulted in the deaths of four people: U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, foreign service information officer Sean Smith, and CIA contractors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. 

For months before the ambush, the U.S. military had requested more drones or other surveillance aircraft in Niger and additional military medical support, but those requests met resistance from the U.S. ambassador to the country, who was reluctant to increase the American presence in the country, according to a U.S. official briefed on the attack. 

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-niger-20171019-story.html

That film maker should be arrested ! 

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23 hours ago, Snoslinger said:

the video was "suspect" for good reason, and they all proposed an investigation, and did just that  :handjob:

 

Oh God stop that shit right now.

Chelsea fucking knew it was not a video that night! :lol:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blamed an internet video for the Benghazi attacks in her conversations with family members of those killed despite having told a foreign leader two days earlier that the video played no role and having emailed daughter Chelsea that a terrorist group had carried out the attack.

The summary of Clinton’s conversation on September 12, 2012, with Egyptian prime minister Hesham Kandil reported that Clinton told him that there had been no protest in Libya and that the attack was not related to a controversial internet video that would later become the centerpiece of the Obama administration’s public narrative on the Benghazi attacks.

“We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film,” Clinton explained, according to a memo prepared by a State Department note-taker to record the conversation. “It was a planned attack – not a protest.” She added later: “Based on the information we saw today we believe the group that claimed responsibility for this was affiliated with al Qaeda.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hillary-told-chelsea-truth-about-benghazi-but-not-american-people/article/1051078

Good old fashioned liberal revisionist history!

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3 minutes ago, Snake said:

Oh God stop that shit right now.

Chelsea fucking knew it was not a video that night! :lol:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blamed an internet video for the Benghazi attacks in her conversations with family members of those killed despite having told a foreign leader two days earlier that the video played no role and having emailed daughter Chelsea that a terrorist group had carried out the attack.

The summary of Clinton’s conversation on September 12, 2012, with Egyptian prime minister Hesham Kandil reported that Clinton told him that there had been no protest in Libya and that the attack was not related to a controversial internet video that would later become the centerpiece of the Obama administration’s public narrative on the Benghazi attacks.

“We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film,” Clinton explained, according to a memo prepared by a State Department note-taker to record the conversation. “It was a planned attack – not a protest.” She added later: “Based on the information we saw today we believe the group that claimed responsibility for this was affiliated with al Qaeda.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hillary-told-chelsea-truth-about-benghazi-but-not-american-people/article/1051078

Good old fashioned liberal revisionist history!

“Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow.” 

1) do you think she was telling others it was the local milk men that carried this out, but chelsea otherwise? 

2) "i fear more of the same tomorrow". what has a better chance of happening for several days, or "tomorrow" - demonstrations or a single terror attack? :news:

 

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You're moving the goal posts. She lied to the country, but told Chelsea otherwise.

12 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

“Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow.” 

1) do you think she was telling others it was the local milk men that carried this out, but chelsea otherwise? 

2) "i fear more of the same tomorrow". what has a better chance of happening for several days, or "tomorrow" - demonstrations or a single terror attack? :news:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sept. 11, 2012: Two Responses 

In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the video, but made no mention of terrorists or a terrorist attack. An hour later, she sent an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that made no reference to the video, and blamed “an al Qaeda-like group.” (The State Department’s Operations Center earlier that night sent an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts — a fact that was not made public until Reuters reported it on Oct. 24, 2012.)

About 10:00 p.m.: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issues a statement confirming that one State official was killed in an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. Her statement, which MSNBC posted at 10:32 p.m., made reference to the anti-Muslim video.

Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

11:12 p.m.: Clinton sends an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that reads: “Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow.” (The email was discovered in 2015 by the House Select Committee on Benghazi. It is written to “Diane Reynolds,” which was Chelsea Clinton’s alias.)

Clarification, July 1: We updated this article to clarify Clinton’s first public statement on the Benghazi attacks. We originally wrote, “In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the attack as being in “response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.” As the entry for that date makes clear, she said, “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.”

Sept. 12, 2012: ‘Nothing to Do with the Film’

Clinton issued a statement, which made no mention of the anti-Muslim video, and she delivered a speech, which did. Neither referred to a terrorist attack.

Privately, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff wrote an email that said “we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted ‘over inflammatory videos,’” and Clinton told the Egyptian prime minister that the video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attacks.

Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She calls the incident a “violent attack.”

Clinton: All the Americans we lost in yesterday’s attacks made the ultimate sacrifice. We condemn this vicious and violent attack that took their lives, which they had committed to helping the Libyan people reach for a better future.

Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. America’s commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear — there is no justification for this, none.

Sept. 12: Jake Sullivan, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, sends an email prior to Obama’s Rose Garden address to Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security advisor for strategic communications at the White House, and others that says, “There was not really much violence in Egypt. And we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted ‘over inflammatory videos.’”

Sept. 12, 3:04 p.m.: Clinton calls then Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil and tells him, “We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack — not a protest.” An account of that call was contained in an email written by State Department Public Affairs Officer Lawrence Randolph. The email was released by the House Benghazi committee.

Sept. 13, 2012: Libyan Ambassador Apologizes for ‘Terrorist Attack’

Clinton referred to the video in separate remarks while welcoming leaders of Libya and Morocco, while CNN quoted an unnamed State Department official who described the assault as a “clearly planned military-type attack.”

Sept. 13: Clinton meets with Ali Suleiman Aujali — the Libyan ambassador to the U.S. — at a State Department event to mark the end of Ramadan. Ambassador Aujali apologizes to Clinton for what he called “this terrorist attack which took place against the American consulate in Libya.” Clinton, in her remarks, does not refer to it as a terrorist attack. She condemns the anti-Muslim video, but adds that there is “never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

Clinton: Religious freedom and religious tolerance are essential to the stability of any nation, any people. Hatred and violence in the name of religion only poison the well. All people of faith and good will know that the actions of a small and savage group in Benghazi do not honor religion or God in any way. Nor do they speak for the more than 1 billion Muslims around the world, many of whom have shown an outpouring of support during this time.

Unfortunately, however, over the last 24 hours, we have also seen violence spread elsewhere. Some seek to justify this behavior as a response to inflammatory, despicable material posted on the Internet. As I said earlier today, the United States rejects both the content and the message of that video. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. At our meeting earlier today, my colleague, the foreign minister of Morocco, said that all prophets should be respected because they are all symbols of our humanity, for all humanity.

But both of us were crystal clear in this paramount message: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind. And we look to leaders around the world to stand up and speak out against violence, and to take steps to protect diplomatic missions from attack.

Sept. 13: At a daily press briefing, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland is asked if the Benghazi attack was “purely spontaneous or was premeditated by militants.” She declines to say, reiterating that the administration did not want to “jump to conclusions.”

Nuland: Well, as we said yesterday when we were on background, we are very cautious about drawing any conclusions with regard to who the perpetrators were, what their motivations were, whether it was premeditated, whether they had any external contacts, whether there was any link, until we have a chance to investigate along with the Libyans. So I know that’s going to be frustrating for you, but we really want to make sure that we do this right and we don’t jump to conclusions.

That said, obviously, there are plenty of people around the region citing this disgusting video as something that has been motivating. As the Secretary said this morning, while we as Americans, of course, respect free speech, respect free expression, there’s never an excuse for it to become violent.

Sept. 13: Clinton meets with Moroccan Foreign Minister Saad-Eddine Al-Othmani. She condemns what she calls the “disgusting and reprehensible” anti-Muslim video and the violence that it triggered. She says, “Islam, like other religions, respects the fundamental dignity of human beings, and it is a violation of that fundamental dignity to wage attacks on innocents. As long as there are those who are willing to shed blood and take innocent life in the name of religion, the name of God, the world will never know a true and lasting peace.”

Sept. 13: CNN reports that unnamed “State Department officials” say the incident in Benghazi was a “clearly planned military-type attack” unrelated to the anti-Muslim movie.

CNN: “It was not an innocent mob,” one senior official said. “The video or 9/11 made a handy excuse and could be fortuitous from their perspective but this was a clearly planned military-type attack.”

Sept. 14, 2012: Speaking at Andrews Air Force Base

On the same day that White House Press Secretary Carney denied reports that the assault on the U.S. facilities in Benghazi was a preplanned attack, Clinton spoke at Andrews Air Force Base to accept remains of those killed. She did not mention the video nor did she call the assault a terrorist attack, although she quoted the president of the Palestinian Authority who called it an “an act of ugly terror.”

Sept. 14: A State Department public information official writes in an email: “t is becoming increasingly clear that the series of events in Benghazi was much more terrorist attack than a protest which escalated into violence. It is our opinion that in our messaging, we want to distinguish, not conflate, the events in other countries with this well-planned attack by militant extremists.” (The email was released Oct. 31, 2015, by the House Select Committee on Benghazi, and was contained in the Benghazi committee report issued June 28, 2016. The name of the person who sent the email and the person or persons who received the email were redacted. However, the person who wrote the email is identified in the committee report as a “public information officer from the Embassy in Tripoli,” and the email says it reflects “our view at Embassy Tripoli.” It also says, “I have discussed this with [name redacted] and he shares PAS’s view.” PAS stands for Public Affairs Section.)

Sept. 14: Clinton speaks at Andrews Air Force Base at a ceremony to receive the remains of those killed in Benghazi. She remarks that she received a letter from the president of the Palestinian Authority praising Stevens and “deploring — and I quote — ‘an act of ugly terror.'” She, however, did not call it an act of terror or a terrorist attack and neither did the president.

Sept. 14: At a State Department press briefing, spokeswoman Nuland says the department will no longer answer any questions about the Benghazi attack. “It is now something that you need to talk to the FBI about, not to us about, because it’s their investigation.”

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30 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

“Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow.” 

1) do you think she was telling others it was the local milk men that carried this out, but chelsea otherwise? 

2) "i fear more of the same tomorrow". what has a better chance of happening for several days, or "tomorrow" - demonstrations or a single terror attack? :news:

 

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On 10/21/2017 at 10:01 AM, Snoslinger said:

the video was "suspect" for good reason, and they all proposed an investigation, and did just that  :handjob:

 

 

23 hours ago, Snoslinger said:

nope, terrorists killed 4 people in bengazi. the video was suspect, as it caused uprisings and other violence elsewhere at the same time. did you even know that? seemed like a logical suspect at the time :dunno: after an investigation we learned more.  

 

42 minutes ago, Snake said:

Oh God stop that shit right now.

Chelsea fucking knew it was not a video that night! :lol:

 

 

34 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

“Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow.” 

1) do you think she was telling others it was the local milk men that carried this out, but chelsea otherwise? 

2) "i fear more of the same tomorrow". what has a better chance of happening for several days, or "tomorrow" - demonstrations or a single terror attack? :news:

 

YOU said it was the video, when SHE knew it wasn't, told her daughter otherwise. That was the entire point.

Bringing in the other shit is deflection.

She told the American people one thing and her daughter otherwise.

In other words she lied, and you are trying to defend it with immaterial goal post trucking.

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7 minutes ago, Snake said:

 

 

 

YOU said it was the video, when SHE knew it wasn't, told her daughter otherwise. That was the entire point.

Bringing in the other shit is deflection.

She told the American people one thing and her daughter otherwise.

In other words she lied, and you are trying to defend it with immaterial goal post trucking.

where did she say it was not the video? she said some people with weapons attacked. :dunno: you don't find it odd that after, what, 15 investigations into this, nothing has changed and your little conspiracy is deader than a door knob?

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16 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

where did she say it was not the video? she said some people with weapons attacked. :dunno: you don't find it odd that after, what, 15 investigations into this, nothing has changed and your little conspiracy is deader than a door knob?

I am not re litigating the operation. You were pushing the video narrative in the first post I quoted. I told you (rightfully) she lied to the country, and you decided to shift the narrative.

If you want to take up the operation again, start a thread, but don't start throwing out lies as fact and not expect to get called on it.

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46 minutes ago, Snake said:

I am not re litigating the operation. You were pushing the video narrative in the first post I quoted. I told you (rightfully) she lied to the country, and you decided to shift the narrative.

If you want to take up the operation again, start a thread, but don't start throwing out lies as fact and not expect to get called on it.

the video "narrative", like many other things right after events like that, made sense at the time. because as i said, there other other violent uprisings in the region at the same time. 

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